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Why isn’t Canberra a Marginal Seat?

By Noezis - 24 August 2010 59

Just to open debate up and in an effort to continue flogging a dead horse.  I want to know why Canberra isn’t a marginal seat?  

Being a safe Labor seat means that we cannot take advantage of being invited to the Budget Banquet, instead we are relegated to taking the scraps.  Canberra is seen as a safe seat and as such I believe there is not much effort made by the Federal government or the opposition to win over Canberra’s voters at each Federal Election, nor are there any big wins during budget time.

As a quick example during the current election Labor is looking to cut spending in Canberra’s public service in a variety of areas and to the tune of $532.5 million dollars, whilst offering $26.92 million in the form of a GP super clinic and affordable housing.

The Libs are offering $1.05 million in funding for graffiti clean up, the Aboriginal Landkeepers Program and to the RSPCA, whilst reducing the APS by 12,000 and reducing funding for ICT project by $447.5 million.

To keep the pollies on their toes wouldn’t it make sense to swing our vote.

[ED – on the other hand if you add up every ACT based public servant and government employed contractor that’s a lot of government money pumped into this town]

What’s Your opinion?


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CraigT 12:19 am 31 Aug 10

“One definition of intelligence is recognising that nothing in this world is really right or wrong. It is all based on our particular judgement, based on our unique beliefs we have taken on. An intelligent person is someone who can step out of judgement mode, and become curious to understand different points of view.”

Absolutely hilarious.

“nothing in this world is right or wrong”

Lordy-me, we do share this planet with some fruitcakesm, don’t we…..?

I noticed the radio tonight was all abuzz with news about more bodies in Belanglo.

“LET’S ALL STEP OUT OF JUDGMNET MODE AND BECOME CURIOUS TO UNDERSTAND IVAN MILAT’S POINT OF VIEW”.

Personally, I would like to personally assist Ivan Milat in escaping from gaol….but that’s just me….

Thumper 8:21 am 27 Aug 10

There were some very specific circumstances to that election; including an appalingly run ALP campaign, a federal govt that was well and truly on the nose. no possible change of government stemming from a change in the seat and the most visous push-polling push-polling by the Liberal Party under the tutelage of Andrew Robb. It was an absolute anomaly.

Yes, Smyth was a bit of a Claytons member wasn’t he. Oh, you forgot the bit about large whiteboards 🙂

godot64 12:52 am 27 Aug 10

Bloody hell, if you want to live in a marginal seat…
Eden-Monaro is just a few commutable kms down the road.

Ah, but you’re a Canberra person. Everything must come to you. Sorry.

Tetranitrate 4:16 pm 26 Aug 10

colourful sydney racing identity said :

Deckard said :

Remember that Brendan Smyth was voted in the when we had the bi-election for Canberra while Keating was prime minister. So we do occasionally change our minds. Although Smyth was voted straight out again when it meant something in the general election.

There were some very specific circumstances to that election; including an appalingly run ALP campaign, a federal govt that was well and truly on the nose. no possible change of government stemming from a change in the seat and the most visous push-polling push-polling by the Liberal Party under the tutelage of Andrew Robb. It was an absolute anomaly.

Not to mention that the sitting member had been forced due to this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_rorts_affair

So basically:
-when the sitting member resigns from parliament due to a ministerial scandal
-when it’s a bielection that can’t change the government, only send a message
-when labor is widely unpopular
and when labor screws up the campaign…
THEN Canberra will vote for someone else.

…and then switch right back at the soonest possible opportunity.

Deckard said :

Remember that Brendan Smyth was voted in the when we had the bi-election for Canberra while Keating was prime minister. So we do occasionally change our minds. Although Smyth was voted straight out again when it meant something in the general election.

There were some very specific circumstances to that election; including an appalingly run ALP campaign, a federal govt that was well and truly on the nose. no possible change of government stemming from a change in the seat and the most visous push-polling push-polling by the Liberal Party under the tutelage of Andrew Robb. It was an absolute anomaly.

PM 12:05 am 26 Aug 10

sepi said :

Canberrans do seem to love a well known candidate – eg Brendan Smyth, Gary Humpphries (also started as an MLA), and the footballers we have had as MLAs.

Could be wrong, but I didn’t think Brendan had been in the Legislative Assembly prior to election to the House of Reps.

sepi 10:14 pm 25 Aug 10

Canberrans do seem to love a well known candidate – eg Brendan Smyth, Gary Humpphries (also started as an MLA), and the footballers we have had as MLAs.

Could be a future career for Magnet MArt man.

Deckard 6:50 pm 25 Aug 10

Remember that Brendan Smyth was voted in the when we had the bi-election for Canberra while Keating was prime minister. So we do occasionally change our minds. Although Smyth was voted straight out again when it meant something in the general election.

justin heywood 6:39 pm 25 Aug 10

smilesr said :

Isn’t it because Canberra has a higher than average rate of employee to employer ratio (due to the APS), less entrepreneurs and business owners and hence voting for the union-affiliated Labor party rather than the business-friendly capitalist liberals?

Good point

smilesr 5:38 pm 25 Aug 10

Isn’t it because Canberra has a higher than average rate of employee to employer ratio (due to the APS), less entrepreneurs and business owners and hence voting for the union-affiliated Labor party rather than the business-friendly capitalist liberals?

The Traineediplomat 4:38 pm 25 Aug 10

I think in the end it’s a range of factors that can be tied to a ‘slightly’ younger than average population, more tertiary educated and more public servants are ‘more likely’ to vote ALP/Left of centre as their perceived core values are more in line with those traits.

I recall reading the ‘e-vote’ they did for 15-17 year olds that had something like 40 seats ALP, 40 seats Liberal, 30 seats green…

ah the ideals of youth….

The Traineediplomat 4:34 pm 25 Aug 10

Ahhh ACT – Our total estimated population on 17 Feb 2009 (last AEC calc) was 344,744. As the Quota calculated is 144,497 (population of states / (senators of states *2)) then we are entitled to 2.38 seats. This of course is rounded down.

If the ACT had a boom in population to get our quota up to 2.51 we would get three seats, as we did for that 3 year period…those were the days.

Tasmania has a quota of 3.45, but is guaranteed 5 seats under the Constitution…

justin heywood 1:26 pm 25 Aug 10

Aurelius said :

A lot of this thread seems to be people looking at the way the 200,000-odd electors in the ACT vote and asking “Why don’t they vote the way I want them to?”
There’s 200,000 of them. That they choose who to vote according to their own opinions is hardly any great surprise, is it?

Oh really Aurerlius? (always wanted to say that). The OP asked a legitimate question and received an interesting range of answers (including yours at #17). If the swinging seats get all the booty, why don’t we swing? The claim at #11 that ‘anyone who isn’t left of centre is stupid’ is the only one I can see that supports your post.

A common belief of half-smart people is that others who don’t share their views must be stupid or ignorant. A moment’s introspection would detect the error in their logic.

Aurelius 11:23 am 25 Aug 10

A lot of this thread seems to be people looking at the way the 200,000-odd electors in the ACT vote and asking “Why don’t they vote the way I want them to?”
There’s 200,000 of them. That they choose who to vote according to their own opinions is hardly any great surprise, is it?

Braddon Boy 11:13 am 25 Aug 10

Queanbeyan is in a marginal seat. It hasn’t done them any good, it’s still a s#!t hole. They just get an extra road every few years.

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