Why Public Transport will never catch on

TenPro 28 November 2010 58

There are many problems with public transport that could be resolved with a reasonable amount of effort and expense. However, there is one major problem that would take several generations, a great deal of political will and the expenditure of billions of dollars to fix.

I am going to use Action buses in Canberra as an example to prove my point.

Those that could be fixed with a reasonable amount of effort and expense include:

  • Suburban buses that are often very late or very early.
  • Insufficient room and uncomfortable seats.
  • Lack of seat belts (Who is the bloody idiot minister?).
  • Insufficient buses.
  • The need to regularly stand.
  • Screaming babies.
  • Smelly people who use too much perfume or deodorant, or have been drinking beer.
  • Air conditioning.
  • Very noisy buses caused by mechanical defects.
  • Buses that smell like a mechanical workshop and make the patrons ill.
  • Rude bus drivers.
  • Bus drivers who drive illegally and dangerously.

Yes, all of these could be fixed with a reasonable amount of effort and expense.

Now, I have spoken to many people who have given up the use of public transport, as I have, and we all agree that the one major problem that would take several generations, a great deal of political will and the expenditure of billions of dollars to fix is the poor quality of a large percentage of the bus travelling public.

The key concepts here are the lack of respect and consideration for the law, for people and for property.

Of course this is the inevitable consequence of decades where we have seen the slow and so far inexorable dismantling of morals and values in our society that continues today.

So what specifically am I talking about here?

I am talking about:

  • Swearing.
  • Yelling.
  • Aggressive behaviour.
  • Rude behaviour.
  • Vandalism.
  • Loud, inane and often very personal conversations between passengers, often inches from your ear.
  • Loud, inane and often very personal conversations on mobile phones often by several people at a time all over the bus, often inches from your ear.
  • The infernal ringing of mobile phones all over the bus.
  • The playing of loud music on personal players (the audiologist’s dreams have come true) often by several people at a time all over the bus.
  • Smelly people who either do not use enough deodorant, or have just finished a cigarette, or have dirty clothes on that have not been washed for some period of time.

I could go on but I think that you get the idea.

I, and the people I have spoken to that I mentioned before, are very tolerant people. We can tolerate the first batch of problems that I mentioned above, and much more, but when it comes to the poor quality people the deal is off.

On the day when the great majority of the poor quality people have gained respect and consideration for the law, for people and for property, I, and the people I have spoken to that I mentioned before, will happily go back to the buses, but not before.

This is why public transport will never catch on.

TenPro


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Spartacus Spartacus 6:05 pm 05 Dec 10

Public Transport “doesn’t work” because Canberran’s believe their own deluded fantasies that every other city on the planet is a “uninhabitable” nuclear wasteland and Canberra is a paradise on earth, with flowery meadows and rainbow skies and rivers made from chocolate where children laugh,dance and play with Gumdrop smiles and any doubt of the will of perfect Dear Glorious Leader Stanhope (Who was born atop of Black Mountain (which was foretold by a magical hummingbird), the tallest mountain on the planet and shot a 38 under par, with 11 holes in one, the very first time he went Golfing) will result in the total collapse of this paradise on Earth and this includes doubting our state of the art, perfect public transport system.

The truth is, Public Transport DOES WORK, it Works pretty fine in every city I have ever been too, public Transport in Canberra will not work, if we continue these deluded fantasies that Canberra is the pinnacle of civilization and nothing can be improved because it is already perfect.

ACTION bus service is terrible, For the past few days I have had the opportunity too host people who have never been too this city before and one of the very first things they complained about was the price and quality of Canberra’s oh so glorious public transport system. Now they already have a saying “Only in Canberra!” which is not being used in a positive light.

Make a usable system that the Public will support and maybe we will actually develop a Public Transport culture that will not just be filled with Meth addicts and High School Kids, Private Transport is simply not sustainable (I laugh at the “LETS INVENT GREEN ENERGY FOR CARS!” suggestions previously in the comments, seriously, go ahead, I’m sure 100% Eco Green Cars that somehow do not take up any Car parking spaces (Same technology used in Pokeballs or the Jetson’s car perhaps?) that do not need any subsidies too build) and most countries and places realize that Public Transport is the future (including our Dear Leader’s own reports, but then Dear Leader knows better than the so called experts!, I call for their execution for their insolence against Dear Leader!)

Regular Light Rail for busy routes + Bus services for lighter routes is the future of this city, if you are fighting against it, you are simply selling out any future for a sustainable transport situation for future generations (which seems to be the goal for you Baby Boomers in every other field anyway).

sepi sepi 10:09 pm 01 Dec 10

Perhaps the people on the bus with babies are taking them home? Or to the doctor. Or going to buy food.

Jethro Jethro 5:24 pm 01 Dec 10

Mr Gillespie said :

So — you’re either saying:

1. noisy activity in public (no matter how annoying or unpleasant) is OK

or

2. It’s OK if it’s a screaming, crying baby, but not OK if the noise is made by other means?

We have a very young infant and occasionally need to take him out in public.

Once he starts screaming it’s time to go home or somewhere away from people.

I’m completely with you on the screaming baby thing. The sound of a baby screaming can be pretty awful and I shouldn’t be inflicting it on others.

James-T-Kirk James-T-Kirk 3:32 pm 01 Dec 10

A couple of years ago, there was a major timetable change.

The afternoon shift on Mix106 had a ring in, wanting feedback on how us listeners fely about the timetable.

I rang in, and told then that the timetable was the best one I had seen in years. It was convenient, and the buses went exactly where I expected them to go. They were very enthusiastic – many of the others who had rang in had been bitching and whining about the changes.

The lady on the radio was pleased, and she said “It sounds like you are on a bus right now” – to which I replied – “Heck no – I drive… Why on earth would I catch a bus..”

That got lots of laughs. But, when I next saw a mate of mine who is a bus driver he said “That wasn’t very helpful….”

I still smile when I remember that.

Erg0 Erg0 12:11 pm 01 Dec 10

Option 2 pretty much sums it up, yeah.

What’s your point?

Mr Gillespie Mr Gillespie 11:44 am 01 Dec 10

So — you’re either saying:

1. noisy activity in public (no matter how annoying or unpleasant) is OK

or

2. It’s OK if it’s a screaming, crying baby, but not OK if the noise is made by other means?

Postalgeek Postalgeek 11:01 am 01 Dec 10

ezy10z said :

Mr Gilespie said:

“So, you’re saying it’s OK to have loud, irritating screaming babies in public???”

shall we well tell mothers to just stay home?? or maybe we can put some duct tape around the babies mouths???? any other solutions????

Those who grew up into loud, irritating screaming adults complaining about loud screaming babies certainly could have been smothered at birth.

ezy10z ezy10z 10:35 am 01 Dec 10

Mr Gilespie said:

“So, you’re saying it’s OK to have loud, irritating screaming babies in public???”

shall we well tell mothers to just stay home?? or maybe we can put some duct tape around the babies mouths???? any other solutions????

housebound housebound 9:28 am 30 Nov 10

This point:
“Suburban buses that are often very late or very early.” … or fail to show at all.
This point is the main reason buses will never catch on in Cnaberra, because the fix, however easy, will not happen in our lifetime because the ACTION managers and politicians don’t catch buses.

Bosworth Bosworth 8:52 am 30 Nov 10

•Swearing.
•Yelling.
•Aggressive behaviour.
•Rude behaviour.
•Vandalism.
•Loud, inane and often very personal conversations between passengers, often inches from your ear.
•Loud, inane and often very personal conversations on mobile phones often by several people at a time all over the bus, often inches from your ear.
•The infernal ringing of mobile phones all over the bus.
•The playing of loud music on personal players (the audiologist’s dreams have come true) often by several people at a time all over the bus.
•Smelly people who either do not use enough deodorant, or have just finished a cigarette, or have dirty clothes on that have not been washed for some period of time.

lets institute the death penalty for these offences.

Sonja Sonja 7:31 am 30 Nov 10

Buy a scooter.

colourful sydney racing identity colourful sydney racing identity 3:44 pm 29 Nov 10

TVStar said :

la mente torbida said :

IT’S CALLED PUBLIC TRANSPORT BECAUSE … IT’S FOR THE PUBLIC!

Have you seen the ‘public’ in this town?

ACTION has to overcome the fundamental problem that I don’t like homeless people, alcoholics, people that stink bad, teenage girls who think “Brad” is hot, people that need to talk to their spouses about inane domestic crap on their mobiles, old people, the disabled, people who are not from Canberra and who are trying to go to Parliament House, buses from the Soviet Union, anything that the ACT Government thinks is good for me, and having loose change.

And you have to overcome the fundamental problem that you are a miserable misanthrope.

colourful sydney racing identity colourful sydney racing identity 2:29 pm 29 Nov 10

joeyjojojuniorshabadoo said :

For maximum lulz, check out TenPro’s previous posts. In between writing these posts and scribbling off angry letters to the editor, he or she probably doesn’t get out much.

ah, thanks for the tip. Wow, TenPro must have been devistated when the ABC took BackChat off the air. $5 will get you $50 that every MLA’s office has corrospondence from tenpro filed under ‘looney letters from constituents – DO NOT REPLY’

TVStar TVStar 2:22 pm 29 Nov 10

la mente torbida said :

IT’S CALLED PUBLIC TRANSPORT BECAUSE … IT’S FOR THE PUBLIC!

Have you seen the ‘public’ in this town?

ACTION has to overcome the fundamental problem that I don’t like homeless people, alcoholics, people that stink bad, teenage girls who think “Brad” is hot, people that need to talk to their spouses about inane domestic crap on their mobiles, old people, the disabled, people who are not from Canberra and who are trying to go to Parliament House, buses from the Soviet Union, anything that the ACT Government thinks is good for me, and having loose change.

Ian Ian 2:08 pm 29 Nov 10

Inconvenience for me is the biggest killer for public transport. When I have caught the bus to and from work, the morning is usually ok – I can organise myself to be a my bus stop at a certain time, and its a 40 minute trip vs 20 driving, not great but ok. In the evening is the big problem – basically if I can get out to the bus stop by around 5.30 it’s ok and a 45-ish minute trip, but miss that and it becomes more like 90 minutes.

joeyjojojuniorshabadoo joeyjojojuniorshabadoo 2:01 pm 29 Nov 10

For maximum lulz, check out TenPro’s previous posts. In between writing these posts and scribbling off angry letters to the editor, he or she probably doesn’t get out much.

Buzz2600 Buzz2600 1:46 pm 29 Nov 10

Things have moved on, Grandpa, public transport is public for a reason. In some places, it actually works pretty well, eg Tokyo, Paris and Washington … just not so well here in Canberra!

astrojax astrojax 1:42 pm 29 Nov 10

PantsMan said :

A good crap is still a crap.

but it can be bliss… [oops, says too much]

Postalgeek Postalgeek 1:20 pm 29 Nov 10

I have a similar problem with public forums.

As a participant, I find myself subjected to swearing, YELLING, aggressive threads, loud and inane comments, and a general level of poor quality posts.

It’s a problem that will take several generations, a great deal of political will and the expenditure of billions of dollars to fix the poor quality of a large percentage of the public forum posts.

I, too, believe that this is one of the major reasons public forums will never catch on.

colourful sydney racing identity colourful sydney racing identity 11:54 am 29 Nov 10

OP: I am so pleased that I do not have to sit on a bus with no talent arse clowns like you. Stay at home and stay away from the internet.

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