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William Hovell Drive – now 80kmh

By planeguy 19 April 2012 36

So it seems like in the Government’s infinite wisdom, that they have decreased the speed limit on William Hovell Dve east of the Interchange, from 90kmh to 80kmh.

Now, that by itself is annoying an perplexing, however, just a short distance east, on Parkes Way, the limit is still 90kmh – on what can only be described as a busier road, with less visibility etc…

I would love to know the basis of this decision – is it based purely on theory? Are their accident stats that have been determined as being too high for that stretch of road? Or is it a political decision to continue to decrease speeds?

What’s Your opinion?


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taninaus 6:44 am 20 Apr 12

dono said :

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/late-call-on-william-hovel-speed-change-20120419-1x9i0.html

for safety reasons.

I thought Megan Doherty was an experienced jurno at CT but you have to wonder after this article! our Chief Minister is reduced to A spokeswoman for Territory and Municipal Services Minister Katy Gallagher”is reduced to “a spokeswoman” with a passing reference to being a minister but not in the usual format, and the same for Alistair Coe, where Gary Byles and Andrew Leigh get the more formal titles. The reference to Katy and Alistair are much more coloquial and familiar.

On the road speed – silly nanny state strikes again – sure there are a few intersections that are trouble but why not just reduce speed for that section or install something else to slow the traffic a little around these spots.

Muttsybignuts 11:24 pm 19 Apr 12

KeenGolfer said :

p1 said :

AAMC said :

Thumper said :

Has anyone seen the debacle that is Spofforth St in Holt?

Ah yes, death by a thousand speed bumps.

Thirteen actually, I counted.

AAMC said :

Actually that is a massive pain; especially when heavy vehicles are trying to get to the west Belconnen industrial area. So most vehicles are either going past Kippax or through the small housing estate behind the gold course. So effectively, they have pushed more traffic (heavy traffic) through higher density and higher pedestrian traffic areas.

I think that they are actually pushing most traffic down Southern Cross Drive and along Kingsford Smith, which is designed to be a much busier road. Although, since Spofforth St is the same speed limit as Southern Cross, it should be equally as safe, yes?

No. Spofforth St is a 50 zone, not 60. The reason for the speed bumps is because of people regularly driving at 70+ (and much higher) in a residential 50 zone. Before the speed humps the morning traffic from Macgregor along Spofforth during peak hour would literally race along there.

Yeah, now the speeding traffic has just moved to Beaurepaire Crescent which runs paralellish to Spofforth. Any day now Beaurepaire will be “speed bumped” and the hoons will move to the next one ( which i imagine is Starke St). Whoever plans these things isn’t very bright.

smont 10:43 pm 19 Apr 12

It’s almost cosmetic to change speed limit signs in Canberra. We know the roads are not going to be policed (apart from the slow-down-when-you-see-them white vans), so why would you? Putting the speeds down from 100 Kph to 80 Kph in both directions on Canberra Ave between Canberra and Queanbeyan, for example, has changed nothing …

Nightshade 10:23 pm 19 Apr 12

p1 said :

The speed humps are there because the new part of Macgregor means a heap of people (and construction workers) for whom Spofforth St was the shortest route south. Obviously it is in the interests of the residents that the traffic run along the main road designed for it and not their quiet street.

Except now they just drive through other streets in Holt to get to Drake-Brockman Drive.

Heavs 2:35 pm 19 Apr 12

p1 said :

The speed humps are there because the new part of Macgregor means a heap of people (and construction workers) for whom Spofforth St was the shortest route south. Obviously it is in the interests of the residents that the traffic run along the main road designed for it and not their quiet street. It might have been easier to just block off Spofforth entirely somewhere near Southern Cross Drive…

You’d think that the residents of Spofforth would have lobbied for the traffic calming. Helps in your lobby efforts when the former Deputy Chief Minister is directly affected i guess.

basketcase 1:17 pm 19 Apr 12

Drove William Hovell last night, could be a work in progress, but it was 80 one way, and 90 coming back. Real buggers muddle.

p1 12:03 pm 19 Apr 12

The speed humps are there because the new part of Macgregor means a heap of people (and construction workers) for whom Spofforth St was the shortest route south. Obviously it is in the interests of the residents that the traffic run along the main road designed for it and not their quiet street. It might have been easier to just block off Spofforth entirely somewhere near Southern Cross Drive…

pink little birdie 11:51 am 19 Apr 12

or it’s reducing the speed to make it easier for people who take the west belconnen exit from the parkway who need to merge in with the traffic going to william Hovel drive from Parkes way. If you are trying to get to Bindubi from there you have to move to the right immediately after merging and cars coming up that hill very quickly and idiots in blue souped up cars who attempt to pull out before the unbroken line to get to the intersection 2 seconds faster

cantanga 11:49 am 19 Apr 12

gasman said :

White people’s problems.

So this speed drop is for white people only? Does tthat mean non caucasians can still go 90? Can I see the evidence to back up your claim?

Sgt.Bungers 11:48 am 19 Apr 12

gasman said :

White people’s problems.

Yes… financial penalties and possible loss of licence due to goverment stupidity… leading to loss of job… loss of house… family strain… divorce… should totally be palmed of as being a minor first world problem.

zorro29 11:45 am 19 Apr 12

indeed. as someone said, it makes no sense that the william hovel portion is now 80 and still 90 on parkes way….though i should shut up or they will make that 70 next.

80 is too slow for that road…although in peak times you’re generally stretching to get to 20km/hr

gasman 11:40 am 19 Apr 12

White people’s problems.

Jim Jones 11:37 am 19 Apr 12

KeenGolfer said :

p1 said :

AAMC said :

Thumper said :

Has anyone seen the debacle that is Spofforth St in Holt?

Ah yes, death by a thousand speed bumps.

Thirteen actually, I counted.

AAMC said :

Actually that is a massive pain; especially when heavy vehicles are trying to get to the west Belconnen industrial area. So most vehicles are either going past Kippax or through the small housing estate behind the gold course. So effectively, they have pushed more traffic (heavy traffic) through higher density and higher pedestrian traffic areas.

I think that they are actually pushing most traffic down Southern Cross Drive and along Kingsford Smith, which is designed to be a much busier road. Although, since Spofforth St is the same speed limit as Southern Cross, it should be equally as safe, yes?

No. Spofforth St is a 50 zone, not 60. The reason for the speed bumps is because of people regularly driving at 70+ (and much higher) in a residential 50 zone. Before the speed humps the morning traffic from Macgregor along Spofforth during peak hour would literally race along there.

True.

The speedbumps are terrible. But even with them in place, there are *still* vehicles that speed through there. The other day there was a jeep doing at least 80 kph bouncing over the speedbumps without slowing down, it overtook about 3 cars negotiating the bumps and came close to clipping a couple of kids playing on the side of the road.

This is why we can’t have nice things.

JC 11:34 am 19 Apr 12

AAMC said :

Yeah, I saw that this morning, it’s pretty annoying.

I’m going to guess that it is an attempt to slow traffic down approaching the Glenloch exchange to reduce congestion in peak periods; won’t work as WHD backs up to the Higgins/Hawker roundabout and the average speed is <50km/h anyway during the peak.

OR

Maybe it is so the cars hit the potholes slower??

Nope, what it is about is slowing people down through the two sets of lights on William Hovell Drive which are traffic accident hotsposts. There is a list of the hotspots in the latest Chronicle. This is why it starts city bound just before Coulter drive and ends just after Bindubi Street. Ironicly the best stretch on the whole of William Hovell.

Sounds pretty silly to me though, because all the accidents I’ve seen on this road are during peak hour when no bugger gets to 90km/h anyway, mostly rear enders by people not looking, or at the merge just before Coulter. I’ve only seen two accidents where I reckon speed was invlolved but the idiots driving wouldn’t care what the speed limit was anyway.

What is annying though are the speed limit signs. Sgt are you there? Headinng west there is a large sign just after Glenloch, followed by a small sign before Bindubi then nothing till just before Coulter. How about another just after Bindubi rather than before?

KeenGolfer 11:23 am 19 Apr 12

p1 said :

AAMC said :

Thumper said :

Has anyone seen the debacle that is Spofforth St in Holt?

Ah yes, death by a thousand speed bumps.

Thirteen actually, I counted.

AAMC said :

Actually that is a massive pain; especially when heavy vehicles are trying to get to the west Belconnen industrial area. So most vehicles are either going past Kippax or through the small housing estate behind the gold course. So effectively, they have pushed more traffic (heavy traffic) through higher density and higher pedestrian traffic areas.

I think that they are actually pushing most traffic down Southern Cross Drive and along Kingsford Smith, which is designed to be a much busier road. Although, since Spofforth St is the same speed limit as Southern Cross, it should be equally as safe, yes?

No. Spofforth St is a 50 zone, not 60. The reason for the speed bumps is because of people regularly driving at 70+ (and much higher) in a residential 50 zone. Before the speed humps the morning traffic from Macgregor along Spofforth during peak hour would literally race along there.

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