23 January 2009

WIN shows you the news, then the CT tells you about it

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Now here’s a peculiar thing.

WIN News have added a segment (meaning they’ve bumped either an ad or their own content) wherein the Canberra Times tells you about things that are going to be in the paper tomorrow.

I’d be fascinated to hear which way, if at all, the dollars are flowing on this deal.

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winning star8:41 am 26 Jan 09

From what I saw the Canberra Times thing was only like 30 seconds long! That isn’t a massive segment of news!

But on the Saturday times, flicking through I was amazed how much of it is just nearly full-page advertisements. Very little local news there.

I reckon you’d dump National news over the local. The local rates better.

dvaey said :

johnboy said :

You’ve just described enough work for two or three full time positions (ask the prime and ten news teams in Canberra).

Seriously, video is extremely expensive to produce compared to text. It’s something we’ll keep looking at and thinking about but I wouldn’t hold your breathe.

It might be two or three full-time positions for a TV station, but Im sure that putting together the articles in CT takes several more full-time positions than the RiotACT website takes. In this day and age of technology, video isnt that expensive to produce. If you want to put together a studio-recorded program with live-to-air segments, sure you need the big bucks. If you just want to put together a local news piece, with a few clips on dvcam, clipping them together with some mobile phone vids with nandub and putting it on a podcast, thats hardly difficult. As an example, FarkTV comes to mind.

Dude,

You want to produce a local summary I’ll embed it,

But I think you’ll find that the work involved won’t justify the audience willing to view it.

Wow!! Maybe I could do GrannyTV! *chuckle*

johnboy said :

You’ve just described enough work for two or three full time positions (ask the prime and ten news teams in Canberra).

Seriously, video is extremely expensive to produce compared to text. It’s something we’ll keep looking at and thinking about but I wouldn’t hold your breathe.

It might be two or three full-time positions for a TV station, but Im sure that putting together the articles in CT takes several more full-time positions than the RiotACT website takes. In this day and age of technology, video isnt that expensive to produce. If you want to put together a studio-recorded program with live-to-air segments, sure you need the big bucks. If you just want to put together a local news piece, with a few clips on dvcam, clipping them together with some mobile phone vids with nandub and putting it on a podcast, thats hardly difficult. As an example, FarkTV comes to mind.

johnboy said :

Is there anything more annoying than WIN News when you know the cricket has re-started?

What about national news, when you know the cricket has started? The alternative, is that Channel 9 drops all local coverage, and gives us a direct feed from Sydney from the coin-toss until stumps at the end of the day. After all, if we’re watching sydney cricket, sydney news and sydney cricket again, why do they care about us?

grunge_hippy said :

i think its a case of the CT paying WIN money to get people to buy their crappy newspaper.

not working!

Falling circulation.

But they sell 34000 weekdays Readership 99000

and   60000 Saturday Readership 155000

I like newspapers and CT in particular.

I agree that advertising should not be incorporated into the news.

        

Yes – you’d need some pretty big sponsors to cover all that! Unless you can manage to clone yourself somehow I think I’ll have to live without RiotTV ….

: )

You’ve just described enough work for two or three full time positions (ask the prime and ten news teams in Canberra).

I realise those hours I currently spend sleeping, eating, and abluting are largely wasted and could be turned to this project, but I’m strangely fond of their current use.

Seriously, video is extremely expensive to produce compared to text. It’s something we’ll keep looking at and thinking about but I wouldn’t hold your breathe.

I reckon it would be fun. You could do ‘on the street interviews’ and invite interesting people like E.L.K. on the show and do little camera pieces of CMC acts and stuff. If you thought you needed a bit more eye candy just haul someone like Marianne along to co-host.

We could easily youtube something but I’m really not sure there would be much return on the time and effort.

Also I’m pretty sure I’m not pretty enough.

We need RiotTV – a nice piratey sort of thing! Arrrrr!!

johnboy said :

PM said :

I’d personally prefer to see the RiotACT give a run-down each night.

Except we don’t know what we’re going to publish tomorrow.

Doesn’t need to be like what the CT does. It could be a summary of what’s been discussed during the day. But I know – it won’t happen.

grunge_hippy11:32 am 24 Jan 09

i think its a case of the CT paying WIN money to get people to buy their crappy newspaper.

not working!

I suppose its a way for WIN to pad out its 5-10 mins of useful news to a 30 min show. Can’t say I’ve noticed it, must have tuned out while it was on.

Some symmetry there though – WIN is 5-10 mins padded out to 30, and the CT is 1-2 pages of useful news padded out to a lot more than that. (Actually how thick is the CT, its been years since I’ve bought one – I hardly even bother looking at it online).

PM said :

I’d personally prefer to see the RiotACT give a run-down each night.

Except we don’t know what we’re going to publish tomorrow.

I’d personally prefer to see the RiotACT give a run-down each night.

They’ve been doing this in Tassie for quite a while (couple of years perhaps?) with the Mercury paper.

Holden Caulfield7:00 am 24 Jan 09

Eliot Goblet has a brother?

He needs something like a very large flower in his lapel.

; )

That’s why John whosiwhatsit is a print journo and not supposed to be on TV.

Was that delivery FLAT or what? It reminded me of an awkward and shy year 9 student giving their “required for asessment” oral presentation.

Well, talk about a spoiler! Half the fun of the morning paper is the surprise value ….

Oh great so nothing exciting in tomorrows paper, so no point getting it!

THANKYOU!!! Sleep in….

Homocles the Sodomite9:46 pm 23 Jan 09

There is a term for this in the newspaper business: waving the white flag.

johnboy said :

Is there anything more annoying than WIN News when you know the cricket has re-started?

I don’t think there is.

Even worse when it’s a slow news day.

As for the CT segment – pointless!

Is there anything more annoying than WIN News when you know the cricket has re-started?

I’d have thought Jessica was paid good money for her column… That’s normally the way of these arrangements…

But having read the column I can see they might do it differently…

I saw this segment last week while waiting for the cricket to come back on and it struck me as a bit odd. Perhaps there is an arrangement whereby Jessica Good gets editorial space in the CT.

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