24 October 2005

Wind farm for Hall

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ABC Online has a story about ActewAGL liking what they’ve seen about Hall’s wind farm potential. Is there any large scale electricity generation already happening in the ACT?

In any event their thoughts on consultation are illuminating.

“No-one is going to go and build a wind farm in their backyard without them having a say and their concerns understood, as best we can deal with them.”

Trans: Feel free to bitch and moan until you’re done, and then we’re going to do it anyway

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Oops, GF was talking about coal-fired power stations, not coalmines. My mistake. Nevertheless, I did drive through an area dotted with huge open-cut coalmines that darkened the sky, and I think this was somewhere near Newcastle.

I don’t think they look ugly either. And surely the issue with birds running into them at night (which, by the way, supports the argument that they’re not terribly noisy) is a design problem. Maybe it could be solved with a few low-powered LEDs dotted along the wings. I’m sure smarter minds than mine have already come up with a solution.

And I agree with Growling Ferret, the coal mines district up near Newcastle provide an apocalyptic scene to drive through.

I reckon Pratt would be a good back-up wind generator.

What about solar: has ACTEW done anything with that?

You’d get all the wind you need putting one in front of John Stanhopes office with a backup generator in front of Simon Corbell and a secondary backup on Hargreaves.

Heck, you might even begin to make money by selling the extra energy to NSW.

On a serious note, I like the older style windmills, a few of them dotted around the landscape might brighten the place up a bit.

Growling Ferret12:44 pm 25 Oct 05

Come on Thumper, windfarms ain’t that much of an eyesore. They ane not going to be placed on the top of Mount Ainslie or anything like that…

I thought the windfarms in the middle of nowhere (somewhere near Warrnambool) on the Great Ocean Road looked kind of cool…

Much better than the dirty coal filth that is the drive up the Hunter Valley with the coal fired power stations.

oh so the real argument isnt that they generate effcient clean renewable power, but you dont like the idea of looking at them ?

a small price to pay to halt global warming.

Maybe they should build this wind farm in O’Malley: no one would notice a few more eyesores up there.

Thumper youre on an ideological drug which cant be cured by even massive doses of logic.

Visit europe and look at teh contribution wind generation makes there. take a drive up teh douro valley in portugal, or along teh coast of teh north sea. even as far inland as hungary and berlin you see wind farms spinning away quite happily generating power.

Are they noisy ? i stayed in a house about a kilometre away from several, down at a place called dittmarsch. unless i was standing 100 feet from them i couldnt hear them. the locals there dont mind.

a bit too much of the shock of the new for some anti-everything zealots.

Mr Evil:

From my recent experience at the tip wearing white overalls searching through rubbish, yes they do harvest the methane, however it is done by the owners of the tip, and is yet another way that they are making money off the process, yet stabbing the government in the back at the same time by charging them money to provide a rubbish facility in Canberra.

As far as I can summise they are making money from the following processes;

1. Canberra Govt – to provide tip services
2. Exorbitant entrance fee
3. Recycling – Revolve
4. Recycling – bulk scrap metal, glasses, sands, wood chips, greenwaste, etc
5. Harvesting Methane from the rotting waste

Yes, Hall seems very much stuck in the 1920’s sometimes, so they certainly won’t be happy.

Not sure about the tip…

Had heard that the windfarm propsed for Lake George/Tarago area is going ahead. I had heard that the new rigs will provide power for up twnety-two thousand homes.

That being said; having known some Hall residents, there will be much bitching and moaning as to how this will effect the aesthetics of their ‘perfect little village’.

Has anything ever been done with the plan to generate electricity from methane gas out of Mugga Lane tip? ACTEW were talking that up a few years back.

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