10 June 2008

Winter Weather + Rain = Rally Canberra

| Peter Holland
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has anyone noticed that the rain is particularly effective in one aspect, the idiots who have never driven on a dirt road suddenly think that they can rally drive and hit large puddles on the tar roads? aquaplaning is worth watching, particularly when the aquaplaner spins past you at the lights…..

is there a part of the human mind that goes: it’s raining, it’s wet, the roads are slippery, *Ding!* must drive faster and through every puddle I can find, never mind that my skills in the dry are lacking, I can appear cool as I fishtail down the road, etc…

Speaking as one who has driven and navigated in rally events, pass. I would prefer to drop to 10km under the limit and get home late, not The Late…

Anyone else have a theory on the wet weather & driving?

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Sorry bd84

fog lights are for driving in fog dipsht, using them in the rain will just reflect the light and dazzle oncomming drivers, the same as high beam lights.

normal headlights will suffice, but knowing canberrans there will be a couple of dozen morons in their silver/white/grey/light blue cars etc who think everyone can see them in the pouring rain, particularly the cars infront of them.

Was just trying to raise a few hackles. It was either the fog light or the redundant cyclists or whatever they’re called. I guess the foglights worked. For the record I think there are a hell of a lot of headlights that are more ‘dazzling’ but that’s for another thread which I won’t dig up again.

But do agree with not being able to see cars behind with no lights. Mixed in with all the drops of water on my side mirror they’re pretty hard to see.

People also tailgate everywhere. It’s not a ‘Canberra thing’. Have you driven on the M5 in Sydney lately??

I don’t think it is Canberra drivers as a whole that are bad. Its just that the few that are inexperienced leave their driving for the worst road conditions. I found when I moved to Canberra that Canberrans were bad for tailgating but I can’t remember being tailgated in quite some time. The times, they are a changin’

la mente torbida2:11 pm 11 Jun 08

I hear what you’re saying Skidbladir (I too have done advanced driver training – courtesy of Mazda).

What irrits me is that the posts go along the lines of “Canberra drivers are so bad that ….”, when in fact we are all Canberra drivers. I don’t think we are any worse or better than any other drivers in the country.

However, don’t get me started on Canberra pedestrians in the city….

I love the Canberran mindset. These are the same people who ride bicycles or catch the bus for the 90% of the time when it isn’t raining, yet these imbiciles decide to unleash their poor driving skills in the worst possible conditions. Why is is so much harder to catch a bus when it is raining? I never understood that. Is it really that much easier to drive to work in the rain than it is to stand under an umbrella at the bus stop?

The amount of accidents in Canberra when it rains is amazing. Especially rear-enders on Northbourne. I had the benefit of growing up in Orange and driving in all kinds of wet and icy conditions as well as unsealed roads. At least if I get in to trouble, I am somewhat confident I know how to correct it. Better still, driving slower in the wet will do wonders for avoiding loss of traction anyway. Seeing people fly past me and proceed to lock the brakes and slam into the car in front is embarrassing for all involved.

I’m not claiming that I’m the best driver in the country, but defensive driver training was for a good purpose.
(Once paid for by the insurance company when I was on my P’s, the other was paid for by work as I was then driving a ute every night)

la mente torbida1:40 pm 11 Jun 08

Obviously, RiotACT contributors are the best drivers in the country

From the perspective of someone who walks to work/home every day, I always take extra care when it rains, I see too many fools sliding out the back and hitting the accelerator even more to make up for it…

Canberra, it’s a scary place! 🙂

Isn’t it the clay dust rather than the oil which causes the slippery roads during the first rain?

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy11:49 am 11 Jun 08

Was pretty slippery out there yesterday. People don’t seem to get the one simple rule you need for driving – especially in the wet: SMOOTH is the key. Nice gently throttle, brake and steering inputs.

It’s not hard, people!

The first rain after a long dry spell is always the worst, because oil that has been building up on the road surface is now floating on top of a layer of water, making it extra slippery.

Wet weather means we can go through our ‘sideways’, various corners in the ‘burbs, route.

You’d think they’d jump out and start wiping sponges over their cars, the way they gnash and wail over water restrictions preventing them from washing cars with hoses.

I’ve always found Canberrans respond to wet weather like cavemen. “water falling from sky run run!”

My theory on Canberra drivers in the wet is that they acknowledge the fact that driving in the wet is dangerous so they make their way to their destination quicker – therefore minimising their time on unsafe roads LOL

Canberra drivers are on average very unskilled, and very aggressive. In the wet, they remind me of how ducks get when it rains…. very animated and excited.

Most modern cars are like cocoons, very quiet and smooth and climate-managed which helps divorce the drivers from reality, and I think their natural bad tendencies are highlighted in the wet. I see them flying past, plumes of water rising from their tyres, they’ve got to be near aquaplaning and I just try and stay the hell away from the lot of them. I don’t want to be in their way when they discover that they really can’t drive for nuts.

learnt what ESP does this afternoon. Interesting!

Bungle said :

And how about all those people driving around without their fog lights on?!?!

fog lights are for driving in fog dipsht, using them in the rain will just reflect the light and dazzle oncomming drivers, the same as high beam lights.

normal headlights will suffice, but knowing canberrans there will be a couple of dozen morons in their silver/white/grey/light blue cars etc who think everyone can see them in the pouring rain, particularly the cars infront of them.

I live on a fairly steep but wide street and the slightest bit of moisture has every dumbass P plater and their battle-scarred turbo spinning tyres up the hill.

Just one………ooooh just once would I love to see a cop coming over the hill at that exact moment or better yet watch them spin out and clip the gutter!!!

Felix the Cat7:15 pm 10 Jun 08

Have you seen that Audi wagon that has been parked in the centre traffic island just after the roundabout? Damaged at the front. It’s been there for over a week.

Its accepted as fact that Canberrans forget how to drive whenever it rains.

Most people on the road are still nuckfuts in the wet, and even with the benefit of defensive driver training, I seem to be a magnet for being hit by other drivers on wet roads.
They either run red by forgetting to account for increased stopping distance, puddles, and their own lack of experience, have bald tyres and go sliding for tremendous distances, or just forget that their windshield may be blurry as there is rain on it, and rear-end me while I’m stationary at the lights.

Some people blame smooth roads covered in black dribbly crap, other people blame the fact that Canberrans drive cars into the ground and don’t bother to get seals and leaks checked and so contribute to the slippery & slick roads, I just think most people can’t be bothered where they’re going or if they get there in one piece.

My favourite example of this was during the drizzle last week when a bloke came fanging around the roundabout near Duntroon, lost control and slammed into the kerb, thereby busting the front wheel off his car. Oh how I laughed, and I laughed.

And how about all those people driving around without their fog lights on?!?!

Felix the Cat6:28 pm 10 Jun 08

Yes, I’ve noticed the same thing too. People have no idea of the Laws of Physics and how they apply to wet roads and rubber tyres. A lot of people aren’t used to driving in wet conditions due to the drought. Others play too many video games and then go out onto the road and get their ambitions confused with their abilities and seem to be trying to get themselves a Darwin Award. It wouldn’t be as bad if these morons just hurt themselves with their stunts, but often they take out innocent bystanders and/or their property as well.

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