10 May 2011

Woden graffiti infestation being cleaned out

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Michael steep memorial

That crapulous memorial to failure is being cleaned off the wall behind the bus timetables right now, I noticed the cleaners setting up to do their stuff as I walked past around 9am today.

It had been pretty much abandoned for the last few weeks, so I really doubt the kiddies who were so vocal about it will notice it’s gone.

[ED – we gather a memorial to Michael Steep is being dedicated at Pine Island today]

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I don’t know much about the sad story of this Michael fellow. But I have lived and worked in Woden for 20 years plus. And yes – I do catch buses regularly through the Woden Interchange. Let’s face it – Woden is a town planning disgrace. It is an awful space and we need graffiti writers to liven it up. I like the fact that people try to brighten it up by spraying a bit of graf here and there. Some of it is stupid – some of it is clever and artistic and makes me smile. What on earth do the haters here want to look at – a blank concrete wall that contains what used to be a creek! A three storey brick and concrete wall along Bradley Street that is supposed to be a streetscape we can relate to? The whole town centre is a human mess. The architects and town planners were plainly on better drugs than are available nowadays if they thought what they produced is livable. All I can say to the young people involved in this thread is “reclaim the street and spray it up”. But please make it clever.

canberralocal11:50 pm 07 Jun 11

Natee said :

And just thought i would make it clear that not all of us who made the memorial are useless, illiterate bongheads that some of you have called us and what we are all made out to be by whoever ..

Yours is probably the first sensible post of any of Michael’s friends in this thread. The reason why people think that the defendants of this graffiti are “illiterate bongheads” is because they are represented as clearly illiterate based on what they have posted in this thread, yourself excepted, and their approach to putting forward their point of view hasn’t been anywhere near as mature or well-constructed as yours.

The question I have for you is, are you more representative of Michael’s friends or are his other friends all like the others that have posted in this thread?

creative_canberran9:15 pm 07 Jun 11

Natee said :

I was a very close friend of michael’s and i do believe that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I have read just afew of the previous comment and alot of them made me sick .. Michael was not a “bogan” and nothing like he was made out to be by the media. Yes, you’s may think people writting in his honour should have thought twice before doing it on a public toilet door but it was only people trying to pay their respects to him though it would not have been meant to be criminal activity and they were not “useless bogan pieces of trash” either. Im thinking alot of disrespectful people are on here and should read my point of view. I did not expect the wall to stay there forever and im very grateful that it stayed long enough until he got his permanent one that he deserves
And just thought i would make it clear that not all of us who made the memorial are useless, illiterate bongheads that some of you have called us and what we are all made out to be by whoever ..

Why is anyone even offended or annoyed about Mully’s memorial on a toilet door.
Canberra is a city that’s always been fastidious about planning, making sure things are where they belong. This certainly meets the criteria!

You bogans are clearly just jealous of our tendinitis.

Oh, and there’s at least one bus that not only needs the back of its seats ‘de-memorialised’ but its window too.

Natee said :

I was a very close friend of michael’s and i do believe that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I have read just afew of the previous comment and alot of them made me sick .. Michael was not a “bogan” and nothing like he was made out to be by the media. Yes, you’s may think people writting in his honour should have thought twice before doing it on a public toilet door but it was only people trying to pay their respects to him though it would not have been meant to be criminal activity and they were not “useless bogan pieces of trash” either. Im thinking alot of disrespectful people are on here and should read my point of view. I did not expect the wall to stay there forever and im very grateful that it stayed long enough until he got his permanent one that he deserves
And just thought i would make it clear that not all of us who made the memorial are useless, illiterate bongheads that some of you have called us and what we are all made out to be by whoever ..

So you’ll have no problem with me “improving” the permanent memorial with a few choice expressions of my opinion of you and your friends. That’s good to know.

Natee said :

…did not expect the wall to stay there forever and im very grateful that it stayed long enough until he got his permanent one that he deserves…

I hope for your sakes that some real bogans (drunk, drugged, and bored out of their minds) don’t come along and trash it.
Though I’m sure that some would think ‘poetic justice’ if it did happen.

Natee said :

I was a very close friend (…)

2 quick things.
1) the actions by his friends (causing criminal damage), lead the public believe he was a bogan.
2) Using the word “you’s” in a sentence is bogan ‘slang’. Sorry, but it’s true.

Calamity said :

Just thought I’d jump in before the abuse comes…
I really wouldn’t bother trying to get your point across on here, mate. Tough crowd!

Also, a dictionary is your friend.

Calamity said :

Natee said :

I was a very close friend of michael’s and i do believe that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I have read just afew of the previous comment and alot of them made me sick .. Michael was not a “bogan” and nothing like he was made out to be by the media. Yes, you’s may think people writting in his honour should have thought twice before doing it on a public toilet door but it was only people trying to pay their respects to him though it would not have been meant to be criminal activity and they were not “useless bogan pieces of trash” either. Im thinking alot of disrespectful people are on here and should read my point of view. I did not expect the wall to stay there forever and im very grateful that it stayed long enough until he got his permanent one that he deserves
And just thought i would make it clear that not all of us who made the memorial are useless, illiterate bongheads that some of you have called us and what we are all made out to be by whoever ..

Just thought I’d jump in before the abuse comes…
I really wouldn’t bother trying to get your point across on here, mate. Tough crowd!

They’ll have a field day just because of that one “you’s”!

Natee said :

I was a very close friend of michael’s and i do believe that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I have read just afew of the previous comment and alot of them made me sick .. Michael was not a “bogan” and nothing like he was made out to be by the media. Yes, you’s may think people writting in his honour should have thought twice before doing it on a public toilet door but it was only people trying to pay their respects to him though it would not have been meant to be criminal activity and they were not “useless bogan pieces of trash” either. Im thinking alot of disrespectful people are on here and should read my point of view. I did not expect the wall to stay there forever and im very grateful that it stayed long enough until he got his permanent one that he deserves
And just thought i would make it clear that not all of us who made the memorial are useless, illiterate bongheads that some of you have called us and what we are all made out to be by whoever ..

Just thought I’d jump in before the abuse comes…
I really wouldn’t bother trying to get your point across on here, mate. Tough crowd!

I was a very close friend of michael’s and i do believe that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I have read just afew of the previous comment and alot of them made me sick .. Michael was not a “bogan” and nothing like he was made out to be by the media. Yes, you’s may think people writting in his honour should have thought twice before doing it on a public toilet door but it was only people trying to pay their respects to him though it would not have been meant to be criminal activity and they were not “useless bogan pieces of trash” either. Im thinking alot of disrespectful people are on here and should read my point of view. I did not expect the wall to stay there forever and im very grateful that it stayed long enough until he got his permanent one that he deserves
And just thought i would make it clear that not all of us who made the memorial are useless, illiterate bongheads that some of you have called us and what we are all made out to be by whoever ..

Looks like these petulant entitled spoilt little brats who think they can filth up public property have been at it again. The youth centre near lanyon shops and a children’s playground at Conder wetlands has been defaced with more “memorial” graffiti. A slippery dip at the park was defaced for cryin out loud and a dog turd was conveniently mashed at the bottom of the slippery dip that my 5 year old son manage to evade by millimetres.

What sort of sick mongrel gets off on that? What I would give to rub the mongrels nose it.

The youth centre skate park is a disgrace, not only the graffiti but the filth and rubbish. I’ve seen newly planted trees there uprooted. This is provided for them and they shit on it.

These heroes (and in most cases thier parents) need to learn some BASIC respect for themselves and others. These “memorials” just serve to dishonour thier “mate” and reflect how social standards are in the gutter.

We need an anti vandalism squad here in the ACT to covertly nail these scum and get them scrubbing thier filth off public property and reap the benefits of a hard days yakka. I’d happily pay 5 bucks a week extra tax.

rikkischmidt said :

Stevian said :

Jethro said :

It is always gratifying to watch a bunch of adults lay into a bunch of kids because they don’t approve of the kids’ behaviour. It is even more gratifying to see them lay into a bunch of kids trying to deal with the loss of a close friend.

I agree.. public graffiti is a poor way to express one’s grief. But public berating children for the way they grieve is also a pretty poor show.

The thing I love about adults laying into kids about their behaviour is that there is no-one to blame for the way those kids turned out but the adults in the society those kids were born in to.

What they need is a good flogging !!!

^^^^ Your an asshole and needs to get a flogging 🙂 talk like f***ing trash and we will talk like trash back goes both way’s mate..

Not a Kenny Everett fan I see.

Look up ‘hyperbole’

rikkischmidt said :

OK I’m so sick of seeing you adults shit take every think I’m a close friend on Michael and knowing him well I don’t think you have the right to judge. WE HAVE LOST A VERY GOOD FRIEND, and you adults think you can all sit back BEHIND a computer screen and talk like s*** ?? umm Well that’s not OK with me, You may be old then us and have been through it all But hey WE haven’t, so shut up and get over it.
Yeah graffiti is wrong but who care’s ?? everyone has done it in there live’s you may say I’m a teenage I don’t no right from wrong and I probably need a good flogging but guess what I don’t and I no I don’t.

You adults think its a good thing to talk like that to us to try and get it through our head’s but yet you have the tendinitis to tell us to ” Grow Up ” , Me coming from a family that didn’t give a fuck about you, well I no how f***ing shit it can be and what you adults are saying well that’s just plan F**king RUDE.

All you adults need to have a good look and realise that we have lost a REALLY good friend and a Family member, I’m pretty sure if it was your Son that died you would not be talk like that, you adults need to WAKE UP and GROW UP, F***ing Heartless Ass holes. I Love how you think is ok to talk trash NOT…

Grow up little boy

rikkischmidt said :

OK I’m so sick of seeing you adults shit take every think I’m a close friend on Michael and knowing him well I don’t think you have the right to judge. WE HAVE LOST A VERY GOOD FRIEND, and you adults think you can all sit back BEHIND a computer screen and talk like s*** ?? umm Well that’s not OK with me, You may be old then us and have been through it all But hey WE haven’t, so shut up and get over it.
Yeah graffiti is wrong but who care’s ?? everyone has done it in there live’s you may say I’m a teenage I don’t no right from wrong and I probably need a good flogging but guess what I don’t and I no I don’t.

You adults think its a good thing to talk like that to us to try and get it through our head’s but yet you have the tendinitis to tell us to ” Grow Up ” , Me coming from a family that didn’t give a fuck about you, well I no how f***ing shit it can be and what you adults are saying well that’s just plan F**king RUDE.

All you adults need to have a good look and realise that we have lost a REALLY good friend and a Family member, I’m pretty sure if it was your Son that died you would not be talk like that, you adults need to WAKE UP and GROW UP, F***ing Heartless Ass holes. I Love how you think is ok to talk trash NOT…

You’re right. It’s just graffiti. Why don’t you post your home address so we can graffiti something and we’ll see who cares.

Postalgeek said :

It’s true, the tendonitis comment makes for a truly champagne rant. I think JB was a bit premature in his declaration of Flame of the Week.

Memorials on shitter doors. Tendonitis. This thread is like an old pipe you just want to chew on while sitting on the verandah.

It was duly considered PG

It’s true, the tendonitis comment makes for a truly champagne rant. I think JB was a bit premature in his declaration of Flame of the Week.

Memorials on shitter doors. Tendonitis. This thread is like an old pipe you just want to chew on while sitting on the verandah.

Captain RAAF9:10 am 20 May 11

fgzk said :

Thoroughly Smashed said :

Stevian said :

I am most perturbed, I actually agree with the Captain on this one.

Don’t be too worried, you’re not going mad, it just means he’s going soft.

Maybe a bit soft in the head. He paints a pretty bleak picture for those that don’t or can’t define their right to be part of the society by a job or producing a family. It is a little contradictory if not hypocritical as Captwack readily contributes in the modern form of spraying in public. “Blogging” on the internet. Maybe he too will come to see his comments as stupid and pointless. Or not.

I choose…..not. Thanks for your input, I believe your rock is over yonder!

The tendonitis comment I’m afraid, must rate as the funniest ever posted here! =-)

Thoroughly Smashed said :

Stevian said :

I am most perturbed, I actually agree with the Captain on this one.

Don’t be too worried, you’re not going mad, it just means he’s going soft.

Maybe a bit soft in the head. He paints a pretty bleak picture for those that don’t or can’t define their right to be part of the society by a job or producing a family. It is a little contradictory if not hypocritical as Captwack readily contributes in the modern form of spraying in public. “Blogging” on the internet. Maybe he too will come to see his comments as stupid and pointless. Or not.

but yet you have the tendinitis to tell us to ” Grow Up ”

Sorry, but that was pretty funny.

rikkischmidt said :

OK I’m so sick of seeing you adults shit take every think I’m a close friend on Michael and knowing him well I don’t think you have the right to judge. WE HAVE LOST A VERY GOOD FRIEND, and you adults think you can all sit back BEHIND a computer screen and talk like s*** ?? umm Well that’s not OK with me, You may be old then us and have been through it all But hey WE haven’t, so shut up and get over it.
Yeah graffiti is wrong but who care’s ?? everyone has done it in there live’s you may say I’m a teenage I don’t no right from wrong and I probably need a good flogging but guess what I don’t and I no I don’t.

You adults think its a good thing to talk like that to us to try and get it through our head’s but yet you have the tendinitis to tell us to ” Grow Up ” , Me coming from a family that didn’t give a fuck about you, well I no how f***ing shit it can be and what you adults are saying well that’s just plan F**king RUDE.

All you adults need to have a good look and realise that we have lost a REALLY good friend and a Family member, I’m pretty sure if it was your Son that died you would not be talk like that, you adults need to WAKE UP and GROW UP, F***ing Heartless Ass holes. I Love how you think is ok to talk trash NOT…

You need to grow up.

rikkischmidt9:16 pm 19 May 11

Stevian said :

Jethro said :

It is always gratifying to watch a bunch of adults lay into a bunch of kids because they don’t approve of the kids’ behaviour. It is even more gratifying to see them lay into a bunch of kids trying to deal with the loss of a close friend.

I agree.. public graffiti is a poor way to express one’s grief. But public berating children for the way they grieve is also a pretty poor show.

The thing I love about adults laying into kids about their behaviour is that there is no-one to blame for the way those kids turned out but the adults in the society those kids were born in to.

What they need is a good flogging !!!

^^^^ Your an asshole and needs to get a flogging 🙂 talk like f***ing trash and we will talk like trash back goes both way’s mate..

rikkischmidt9:07 pm 19 May 11

OK I’m so sick of seeing you adults shit take every think I’m a close friend on Michael and knowing him well I don’t think you have the right to judge. WE HAVE LOST A VERY GOOD FRIEND, and you adults think you can all sit back BEHIND a computer screen and talk like s*** ?? umm Well that’s not OK with me, You may be old then us and have been through it all But hey WE haven’t, so shut up and get over it.
Yeah graffiti is wrong but who care’s ?? everyone has done it in there live’s you may say I’m a teenage I don’t no right from wrong and I probably need a good flogging but guess what I don’t and I no I don’t.

You adults think its a good thing to talk like that to us to try and get it through our head’s but yet you have the tendinitis to tell us to ” Grow Up ” , Me coming from a family that didn’t give a fuck about you, well I no how f***ing shit it can be and what you adults are saying well that’s just plan F**king RUDE.

All you adults need to have a good look and realise that we have lost a REALLY good friend and a Family member, I’m pretty sure if it was your Son that died you would not be talk like that, you adults need to WAKE UP and GROW UP, F***ing Heartless Ass holes. I Love how you think is ok to talk trash NOT…

Losing a friend is difficult. I had to experience that when I was younger. But it’s no justification for vandalism and breaking the law. If his friends want a memorial for him, perhaps they should tag the walls of their own homes or vandalise their own property.

Thoroughly Smashed10:22 am 18 May 11

Stevian said :

I am most perturbed, I actually agree with the Captain on this one.

Don’t be too worried, you’re not going mad, it just means he’s going soft.

Captain RAAF said :

Jethro said :

It is always gratifying to watch a bunch of adults lay into a bunch of kids because they don’t approve of the kids’ behaviour. It is even more gratifying to see them lay into a bunch of kids trying to deal with the loss of a close friend.

I agree.. public graffiti is a poor way to express one’s grief. But public berating children for the way they grieve is also a pretty poor show.

The thing I love about adults laying into kids about their behaviour is that there is no-one to blame for the way those kids turned out but the adults in the society those kids were born in to.

At least these kids are learning the way of the world and that it aint easy out there and they had better learn fast that they are expected to pull their weight if they want to be a part of this society. Putting graffiti on a wall may seem an appropriate way to display their greif now but I’ll guarantee in a few years time they’ll see it as being a stupid and pointless act.

The reason why adults are quick to get stuck into kids here is because we have been there, done that and are trying to save these d***heads from themselves…or would you prefer us to say nothing and let them continue on, thumb in bum, mind in neutral, to make even stupider decisions in future?

Harden up kiddies, you bring that attitude, ‘we don’t care what you say, we’ll do what we want’ into the real world once you get jobs, have families etc, and you will get smacked down, hard!

I am most perturbed, I actually agree with the Captain on this one.

Jethro said :

It is always gratifying to watch a bunch of adults lay into a bunch of kids because they don’t approve of the kids’ behaviour. It is even more gratifying to see them lay into a bunch of kids trying to deal with the loss of a close friend.

I agree.. public graffiti is a poor way to express one’s grief. But public berating children for the way they grieve is also a pretty poor show.

The thing I love about adults laying into kids about their behaviour is that there is no-one to blame for the way those kids turned out but the adults in the society those kids were born in to.

What they need is a good flogging !!!

jordiedowler said :

He would just laugh and tell you all to shove it. If you knew him like we all did your perspectives on this would be much different. So yeah, shove it 🙂

You’re right, he sounds delightful. We’re clearly wrong in thinking that he and his friends are abusive yobs.

Captain RAAF8:22 am 18 May 11

Jethro said :

It is always gratifying to watch a bunch of adults lay into a bunch of kids because they don’t approve of the kids’ behaviour. It is even more gratifying to see them lay into a bunch of kids trying to deal with the loss of a close friend.

I agree.. public graffiti is a poor way to express one’s grief. But public berating children for the way they grieve is also a pretty poor show.

The thing I love about adults laying into kids about their behaviour is that there is no-one to blame for the way those kids turned out but the adults in the society those kids were born in to.

At least these kids are learning the way of the world and that it aint easy out there and they had better learn fast that they are expected to pull their weight if they want to be a part of this society. Putting graffiti on a wall may seem an appropriate way to display their greif now but I’ll guarantee in a few years time they’ll see it as being a stupid and pointless act.

The reason why adults are quick to get stuck into kids here is because we have been there, done that and are trying to save these d***heads from themselves…or would you prefer us to say nothing and let them continue on, thumb in bum, mind in neutral, to make even stupider decisions in future?

Harden up kiddies, you bring that attitude, ‘we don’t care what you say, we’ll do what we want’ into the real world once you get jobs, have families etc, and you will get smacked down, hard!

It is always gratifying to watch a bunch of adults lay into a bunch of kids because they don’t approve of the kids’ behaviour. It is even more gratifying to see them lay into a bunch of kids trying to deal with the loss of a close friend.

I agree.. public graffiti is a poor way to express one’s grief. But public berating children for the way they grieve is also a pretty poor show.

The thing I love about adults laying into kids about their behaviour is that there is no-one to blame for the way those kids turned out but the adults in the society those kids were born in to.

jordiedowler10:49 pm 17 May 11

You know what? I don’t care what any of you think. Everyone that is friends with Michael know how much he would appreciate this. He would just laugh and tell you all to shove it. If you knew him like we all did your perspectives on this would be much different. So yeah, shove it 🙂

jordiedowler said :

It’s a wall. A piece of cement. Did it mean anything to anyone previous to when it was marked? No. Not at all. Don’t look down at me and my friends or judge us in anyway, you have no right to.

Wall? Cement? I’m sorry, but are there 2 shrines? I’m looking at a door in the photo, or is it that in your righteous indignation you haven’t even been arsed to visit your shrine, much less left an offering in the sacramental bowl?

Clown Killer said :

It’s a simple fact that if the best you can do to memorialise a departed loved one is to vandalise a shitter door then you couldn’t have been much of a friend.

I dunno, I find it kind of apt that someone who drowned is commemorated on a toilet door. It probably makes the simple action of flushing a turd down the toilet such a special and symbolic experience.

jordiedowler said :

No, I shouldn’t be ashamed of myself. And to be honest, I’m not even slightly. You have your opinions and I have mine. It’s a wall. A piece of cement. Did it mean anything to anyone previous to when it was marked? No. Not at all. Don’t look down at me and my friends or judge us in anyway, you have no right to.

It’s not a right it’s an obligation, a concept foreign to you, I know.

Look it up

Clown Killer6:31 pm 17 May 11

It’s a simple fact that if the best you can do to memorialise a departed loved one is to vandalise a shitter door then you couldn’t have been much of a friend.

jordiedowler6:16 pm 17 May 11

No, I shouldn’t be ashamed of myself. And to be honest, I’m not even slightly. You have your opinions and I have mine. It’s a wall. A piece of cement. Did it mean anything to anyone previous to when it was marked? No. Not at all. Don’t look down at me and my friends or judge us in anyway, you have no right to.

creative_canberran6:11 pm 17 May 11

Calamity said :

Jesus, you people are lethal and hateful sometimes.

Tough. I show respect for those who respect society, not for those who vandalise it.

jordiedowler said :

if writing on one simple wall that was a hideous colour anyway.

I like that shade of green. And it was several walls, a toilet, and a mural. The money spent starting to clean up after you could have been spent on improving the bus services, or just replacing the clock that used to be at the other end. So – are you lot going to repair the mural you vandalised?

Thought not.

jordiedowler said :

and just leave us alone.

You leave us alone first.

georgesgenitals5:07 pm 17 May 11

jordiedowler said :

Some of you people just make me sick. We have lost a very special person to us and if writing on one simple wall that was a hideous colour anyway makes us feel closer to him, then let us be. Most of you wouldn’t understand the feeling of losing a best friend. So stop being so hipocritical against me and my friends and just leave us alone.

I know EXACTLY what it’s like to lose friends as a teenager, because it happened to me more than once. I am, frankly, disgusted by such a pathetic attempt to ‘excuse’ public vandalism. You should be ashamed of yourself.

jordiedowler4:04 pm 17 May 11

Some of you people just make me sick. We have lost a very special person to us and if writing on one simple wall that was a hideous colour anyway makes us feel closer to him, then let us be. Most of you wouldn’t understand the feeling of losing a best friend. So stop being so hipocritical against me and my friends and just leave us alone.

Dazzlar said :

Wow some of the comments here are so nasty!

Why are they bogans or pieces of trash because they write a few messages about someone they lost? Yeah it is grafitti but so what!

So you have no objections is I show up at your place and use your house as a canvas for any opinion I might care to express in letters ten feet tall

Let’s not forget that this isn’t just graffiti. It’s graffiti on the inside door of a bus exchange sh*tter.

Just in case someone wanted to get precious about it.

georgesgenitals2:58 pm 12 May 11

Calamity said :

cleo said :

Clamity and Dazzlar

Just ignore these retards, they get off on other people’s misery, what pathetic sorry soul less people they are.

Spot on.

Who’s enjoying it? I think there are a lot of people who would prefer to give these kids real assistance. Using grief as an excuse to vandalise public property is NOT helping them!

cleo said :

Clamity and Dazzlar

Just ignore these retards, they get off on other people’s misery, what pathetic sorry soul less people they are.

Spot on.

georgesgenitals10:04 am 12 May 11

Nest time something goes badly wrong I’ll be sure to damage some public property. Clearly I’ll have lots of support here when I use my feelings as an excuse.

colourful sydney racing identity8:40 am 12 May 11

cleo said :

Clamity and Dazzlar

Just ignore these retards, they get off on other people’s misery, what pathetic sorry soul less people they are.

Could not agree more.

Clamity and Dazzlar

Just ignore these retards, they get off on other people’s misery, what pathetic sorry soul less people they are.

EvanJames said :

Mr Evil said :

Does anyone know what does the memorial at Pine Island consist of?

I’m visualising a pile of rotting teddy bears, faded fake flowers and Woodstock cans.

I was worried that is what it’d look like.

Never mind, at least the next big flood will wash it all down to Adelaide.

georgesgenitals6:34 pm 11 May 11

Dazzlar said :

Well georges and Cap’n I hope you both went and counselled them in the error of their ways!

My point was that they are teenages and even kids from “good families” do stupid things in times of grief. Or do you think this is endemic of bogans alone?

Nope. That’s what parents and police are for.

Dazzlar said :

Or do you think this is endemic of bogans alone?

You’ve got it there. Except “endemic” doesn’t mean what you think it means.

Well georges and Cap’n I hope you both went and counselled them in the error of their ways!

My point was that they are teenages and even kids from “good families” do stupid things in times of grief. Or do you think this is endemic of bogans alone?

Captain RAAF4:13 pm 11 May 11

Dazzlar said :

Wow some of the comments here are so nasty!

Yeah it is grafitti but so what!

This is the logic we are up against!

georgesgenitals3:47 pm 11 May 11

I lost 3 friends in separate incidents before my 19th birthday, and I was very sad on each occasion. But I didn’t vandalise public property, and then (and this is the worst bit) justify it.

We all know such an incident effects teens. But ignoring rules and letting them use such an event as an excuse is doing neither the teens nor the rest of us any favours.

Dazzlar said :

Wow some of the comments here are so nasty!

Why are they bogans or pieces of trash because they write a few messages about someone they lost? Yeah it is grafitti but so what! Surely we can all cast our minds back to a time long ago when we were teenagers and what it felt like to be one and how magnified our feelings were!

As far as I now the child died in an accident and he wasn’t in trouble with the law so why describe his friends in those terms?

Whole-heartedly agree. But some people are just better than everybody (and love talking about it), aren’t they?

Pretty sure a LOT of people are guilty of writing on a public wall in their younger years, and under-age drinking, and many more stupid things – it’s called being a teenager and most of us grow out of it (although reading these posts obviously not all of us).

Wow some of the comments here are so nasty!

Why are they bogans or pieces of trash because they write a few messages about someone they lost? Yeah it is grafitti but so what! Surely we can all cast our minds back to a time long ago when we were teenagers and what it felt like to be one and how magnified our feelings were!

As far as I now the child died in an accident and he wasn’t in trouble with the law so why describe his friends in those terms?

Mr Evil said :

Does anyone know what does the memorial at Pine Island consist of?

I’m visualising a pile of rotting teddy bears, faded fake flowers and Woodstock cans.

ConanOfCooma8:20 am 11 May 11

Mr Evil said :

Great news. ACTION green never looked so good.

Does anyone know what does the memorial at Pine Island consist of? I hope we’re not paying for it!

Never fear, I shall ensure that it is adorned with graffitti in memory of our dearly departed tax payers money!

Great news. ACTION green never looked so good.

Does anyone know what does the memorial at Pine Island consist of? I hope we’re not paying for it!

georgesgenitals4:51 pm 10 May 11

SheepGroper said :

At least goldfish don’t go around vandalising community infrastructure.

Fish crap in our water supplies. If that’s not deliberate vandalism then I don’t know what is.

Anyone else get the sense that the memorial dedication on the same day you repaint is akin to throwing a sausage at an angry dog while you jump the fence? Just sayin’ is all…

Whilst I understand and sympathise with the reasons this issue came about, I think that the actions of a few snotty kids have contributed negatively on the whole deal. Can’t say I’m sorry to see this go – but let’s not laud this a victory for the moral majority. It is what it is – life moves on. Let’s preserve some dignity by not taking cheap shots at those less fortunate.

Gantz said :

R.E.S.P.E.C.T.

Respect gets respect. Learn it.

Pine Island Gantz, dedicated today.

I wasn’t sure if the comment in the OP was for real or not – I guess it is.

So we can assume that whoever is responsible for cleaning up the interchange had some type of arrangement, where they would leave it in place, while a more appropriate memorial was arranged for Pine Island.

Who would have thought it – adults and kids, talking to each other and coming to an agreement that works out for everyone. And here I was thinking that Michael’s friends were only capable of causing trouble and hurling abuse, while completely erasing him from their memories…

Gantz said :

Putting it simply, they have left, they’re gone, they have forgotten.

If the poor (?) child’s death meant as much as they said, they’d still be there in the interchange – but they’re not.

Seriously???? Because they’re not manning their homemade memorial day and night they suddenly don’t care at all? OR it could be an indication they’re trying to move on, which is apparently exactly what they should do (although most people haven’t put it quite that nicely)! Never happy, eh?

I actually have to stop looking at this now because my faith in humanity is suffering. I’m sure if I met half of the kids we’re talking about I’d hate their company. Doesn’t change the fact they are only kids, most of them will simply grow out of their bad behaviour, and they’ve had to deal with a terrible shock to the system with very little support from their community. And then we’ll turn around and wonder why they’ve no respect for the community or their elders. Could be because all we’ve ever done is call them bogans and make fun of their dead friend. And we’re the adults in this scenario, that’s the really sad thing.

Calamity said :

What the hell is your excuse for acting so shameful??

Being a Pommy isn’t enough?

Gantz said :

And some people need to realise, save for close family and a special few, these children were simply using it as tool to skip school, go around and do as they please.

Putting it simply, they have left, they’re gone, they have forgotten.

If the poor (?) child’s death meant as much as they said, they’d still be there in the interchange – but they’re not.

And there is no other memorial around for the kid, if there is, point it out, but guaranteed they just shifted to the next excuse to vandalise and skip school…

Pine Island Gantz, dedicated today.

And some people need to realise, save for close family and a special few, these children were simply using it as tool to skip school, go around and do as they please.

Putting it simply, they have left, they’re gone, they have forgotten.

If the poor (?) child’s death meant as much as they said, they’d still be there in the interchange – but they’re not.

And there is no other memorial around for the kid, if there is, point it out, but guaranteed they just shifted to the next excuse to vandalise and skip school…

Pommy bastard said :

Bogans have memory spans akin to those of goldfish…

Some fish can remember things for at least 11 months, presumably goldfish could do the same, allowing for individual variation. At least goldfish don’t go around vandalising community infrastructure.

Calamity said :

Jesus, you people are lethal and hateful sometimes.

+1

So because these kids have moved on from the focal point of their grief and they’re presumably getting on with their lives, that means that they’ve forgotten their friend and no longer care about his death? The sense of arrogance and superiority in some of these posts is sickening.

I consider myself very fortunate that when I was that age, I didn’t ever have to go through losing a friend. I said it at the time, and I’ll say it again now – I hope that Michael’s friends can get together, and plan a suitable memorial to him.

The idea that because this kid’s friends aren’t manning the barricades now means they don’t give a f*#k about their friend though…seriously, some people here need to grow up. Ironic really.

Pommy bastard said :

Bogans have memory spans akin to those of goldfish…

Yeah yeah, and pommies are all skinhead nutbags who take SOCCER too seriously and enjoy warm beer.

Ooh, being negative CAN be fun!

Whilst I’m at it – RE: “Methinks that the youngsters have moved on and that they are now too busy with their Playstations and other amusements to give a toss about preserving the memory of their departed colleague.”

Stupidest thing ever. I have lost friends when I was young and whilst I went on to play Playstation again, I have never and will never forget or stop feeling sad about the loss. This is a huge, irreplacable loss for his family and for many of his friends it will be their first run in with death, loss and grieving. What the hell is your excuse for acting so shameful??

R.E.S.P.E.C.T.

Pommy bastard1:00 pm 10 May 11

Bogans have memory spans akin to those of goldfish…

Keijidosha said :

Calamity said :

Jesus, you people are lethal and hateful sometimes.

I was thinking the same thing – some unecessarily venomous and antagonistic comments being made here. I don’t think anyone expects compassion, but surely you can celebrate your victory without being as disrespectful as those who were responsible for the graffiti.

Glad to hear I’m not the only one feeling a bit disappointed by the reaction of some of the ‘adults’ here.

Calamity said :

Jesus, you people are lethal and hateful sometimes.

I was thinking the same thing – some unecessarily venomous and antagonistic comments being made here. I don’t think anyone expects compassion, but surely you can celebrate your victory without being as disrespectful as those who were responsible for the graffiti.

Jesus, you people are lethal and hateful sometimes.

georgesgenitals11:46 am 10 May 11

No real suprise. The drama’s over.

Waiting For Godot11:38 am 10 May 11

Given the rather strident and truculent response by the kiddies – both on this forum and at the Interchange – when the first attempt was made to rebeautify the area following the vandalism (I refuse to call it a memorial), I wonder whether they will be manning the barricades today and forcing the cleaners to back off.

Methinks that the youngsters have moved on and that they are now too busy with their Playstations and other amusements to give a toss about preserving the memory of their departed colleague.

ConanOfCooma11:24 am 10 May 11

Ah, so all those useless bogan pieces of trash that were so adamant that they would preserve the memorial forever in his name proven themselves to be forgetful of their dearly departed friend. Perhaps it was the bongs, perhaps it was the bong water? Perhpas they just really didn’t care in the first place. Who knows…

The best way to remove the eyesores would be to use a D9 bulldozer.

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