bundah said :

Roundhead89 said :

steveu said :

Theres no debate about completion rates with suicide in Australia. Its definitely a 4:1 ratio.
And yep, family court and CSA have alot to answer for, however I disagree that family violence has much to do with that either.

The reason why the male suicide rate has increased so much is because of women’s rights and feminism. Men are no longer comfortable in the natural social order and are having their authority constantly undermined by women. Having a female PM didn’t help, as well as all the garbage about gender which bogged the country down and made it increasingly difficult to deal with serious issues.

Even if that were true,which I believe it isn’t,get used to it because we’re not about to go backwards to the dark ages.The reasons for suicide are complex and varied and it is often mentioned that economic worry is a significant trigger in the middle aged and easy access to powerful prescription painkillers is another factor.

Blaming women’s rights and feminism suggests that you’re bitter and twisted and has misogynistic undertones..

Exactly….

Most men would be committing suicide because they perceive themselves as having low self worth and contribute little to society. Having most support programs that appear to solely address women’s issues surely makes this worse. Then the not so subtle effect that most of these groups actively practice misandry.
What exactly are these grants and how, are they different to all the other funding of these programs?

Roundhead89 said :

The reason why the male suicide rate has increased so much is because of women’s rights and feminism. Men are no longer comfortable in the natural social order and are having their authority constantly undermined by women. Having a female PM didn’t help, as well as all the garbage about gender which bogged the country down and made it increasingly difficult to deal with serious issues.

What I like here is how you have a little rave about gender, and then criticise others for talking about gender. Top logic.

Roundhead89 said :

steveu said :

Theres no debate about completion rates with suicide in Australia. Its definitely a 4:1 ratio.
And yep, family court and CSA have alot to answer for, however I disagree that family violence has much to do with that either.

The reason why the male suicide rate has increased so much is because of women’s rights and feminism. Men are no longer comfortable in the natural social order and are having their authority constantly undermined by women. Having a female PM didn’t help, as well as all the garbage about gender which bogged the country down and made it increasingly difficult to deal with serious issues.

Even if that were true,which I believe it isn’t,get used to it because we’re not about to go backwards to the dark ages.The reasons for suicide are complex and varied and it is often mentioned that economic worry is a significant trigger in the middle aged and easy access to powerful prescription painkillers is another factor.

Blaming women’s rights and feminism suggests that you’re bitter and twisted and has misogynistic undertones..

Pork Hunt said :

TheBusDriver said :

With the passing of the law on modification to the Sex Discrimination act, and frecognition of Trans and Intersex people, I suppose we’re now going to see demands for grants for them or threats of a big class action?

Frecognition: knowing what someone’s freckle looks like…

Brilliant! I like it. I invented a new word, one that has a practical use and is funny as well.

Roundhead is endlessly…

Well silly is just too kind.

Insane?

Roundhead89 said :

steveu said :

Theres no debate about completion rates with suicide in Australia. Its definitely a 4:1 ratio.
And yep, family court and CSA have alot to answer for, however I disagree that family violence has much to do with that either.

The reason why the male suicide rate has increased so much is because of women’s rights and feminism. Men are no longer comfortable in the natural social order and are having their authority constantly undermined by women. Having a female PM didn’t help, as well as all the garbage about gender which bogged the country down and made it increasingly difficult to deal with serious issues.

No-one said male suicide rates have increased. They have always been higher than women’s. So trying to blame Julia Gillard makes you look pretty silly. There are lots of things you could accuse her of, but not this.

Anyway, men having their authority undermined by women sounds to me like a good thing.

IP

Roundhead89 said :

The reason why the male suicide rate has increased so much is because of women’s rights and feminism. Men are no longer comfortable in the natural social order and are having their authority constantly undermined by women. Having a female PM didn’t help, as well as all the garbage about gender which bogged the country down and made it increasingly difficult to deal with serious issues.

Oh please. You sound like all those old blokes who sit around saying the whole world starting going downhill when women got the vote all those years ago.

Here’s an idea – improving women’s equality and socio-economic outcomes actually has benefits for men. And men have to, absolutely have to, be a part of that process of improvement. Quit your whinging. Be a man about it and make some changes, starting with your attitude.

Pork Hunt said :

TheBusDriver said :

With the passing of the law on modification to the Sex Discrimination act, and frecognition of Trans and Intersex people, I suppose we’re now going to see demands for grants for them or threats of a big class action?

Frecognition: knowing what someone’s freckle looks like…

You get 10 points for that one Porker. 🙂

steveu said :

Theres no debate about completion rates with suicide in Australia. Its definitely a 4:1 ratio.
And yep, family court and CSA have alot to answer for, however I disagree that family violence has much to do with that either.

The reason why the male suicide rate has increased so much is because of women’s rights and feminism. Men are no longer comfortable in the natural social order and are having their authority constantly undermined by women. Having a female PM didn’t help, as well as all the garbage about gender which bogged the country down and made it increasingly difficult to deal with serious issues.

Theres no debate about completion rates with suicide in Australia. Its definitely a 4:1 ratio.
And yep, family court and CSA have alot to answer for, however I disagree that family violence has much to do with that either.

steveu said :

I guess I will get howled down if I were to suggest this is the 21st century, and perhaps un-necessary and possibly even sexist to favour one series of groups over other based on gender?
Whilst the completion rates of male suicides vs females has reduced from 5:1 to 4:1, perhaps some groups that support them could get some money? I cant see how anyone can ignore that statistic and not be concerned. I wonder what the response would be if the stats were reversed?

Yes, commence howling. There are some statistics (like suicide) which show men doing worse, and a lot showing women doing worse. In fact, I’d wager, based on knowledge and experience of the field, that male suicide is contributed to by the reduction of power held by men, e.g. why can’t I have unlimited access to my children without paying any child maintenance even though I used to bash my ex-?

Also male suicide rates are higher because men are better at it. True.

IP

I guess I will get howled down if I were to suggest this is the 21st century, and perhaps un-necessary and possibly even sexist to favour one series of groups over other based on gender?
Whilst the completion rates of male suicides vs females has reduced from 5:1 to 4:1, perhaps some groups that support them could get some money? I cant see how anyone can ignore that statistic and not be concerned. I wonder what the response would be if the stats were reversed?

TheBusDriver said :

With the passing of the law on modification to the Sex Discrimination act, and frecognition of Trans and Intersex people, I suppose we’re now going to see demands for grants for them or threats of a big class action?

Frecognition: knowing what someone’s freckle looks like…

With the passing of the law on modification to the Sex Discrimination act, and frecognition of Trans and Intersex people, I suppose we’re now going to see demands for grants for them or threats of a big class action?