28 June 2013

Women's grants winners

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Joy Burch has announced the winners of this year’s Women’s Grants Program:

“Ensuring women and girls in the ACT reach their full potential and are able to fully contribute in our community is fundamental in creating an inclusive ACT,” Ms Burch said.

A project to support women who are involved in the building and construction industry, or looking to get into it, is among this year’s recipients.

“I am particularly excited about this project because there are wonderful opportunities for women to have very fulfilling and rewarding careers in the construction sector.

Ms Burch said it was pleasing to see such an innovative and diverse range of applications for this year’s grants round and that all successful projects would improve the status of women and girls in the ACT.

Other recipients include the Women’s Legal Centre, Domestic Violence Crisis Service, Canberra Rape Crisis, ACT Mental Health Foundation, YWCA of Canberra, ACT Shelter, ACT Women and Prisons Group, Toora Women and Women with Disability ACT.

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gooterz said :

Mr Evil said :

Watson said :

johnboy said :

There are numerous men only social services in the ACT.

Start with the Mens Centre:

http://www.menscentre.org.au/

That website won’t load for me. Must have a built-in testosterone sniffer or something…

Men only: No wimmin allowed! 🙂

LIke most mens programs its directed at blaming the man for the problems.

Anger management etc.

If you read any material on domestic violence for men, its how to stop your violence.

Its pathetic. Plenty of innocent kids are the victims of domestic violence by both genders. However the acts of one gender are ignored.

Truth is that both genders have the same mental flaws, its just that men are taught not to complain when a woman is beating them up and women are taught that everything is domestic violence.

I don’t see how offering any service to a single gender is a step towards equality, offer services to both genders and if 80% of the clients are women so be it. Not offering services to men is just wrong.

Its true.
A few weeks back my mrs and I were having a blue. It was loud so one of our neighbours must have called the police because about 5 cars showed up. It must have been a quiet day.
The police questioned us seperately. The male officer asked me if she will be pressing charges. I said what for? He said for domestic violence. I explained to him that my shirt being torn and the scratched on my face are from self defence and I was not instigating any violence. My wife was laying into me so much that the only way i could stop her was to lie on top of her on the ground. I am talking about full punches and kicking etc.
I was not asked once if i wanted to press charges. Makes me think I would have had a really good chance in court if things ever went that way.
Men are just expected to be immune to domestic violence, this was demonstrated by our fantastic AFP.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd10:50 pm 01 Jul 13

gooterz said :

Mr Evil said :

Watson said :

johnboy said :

There are numerous men only social services in the ACT.

Start with the Mens Centre:

http://www.menscentre.org.au/

That website won’t load for me. Must have a built-in testosterone sniffer or something…

Men only: No wimmin allowed! 🙂

LIke most mens programs its directed at blaming the man for the problems.

Anger management etc.

If you read any material on domestic violence for men, its how to stop your violence.

Its pathetic. Plenty of innocent kids are the victims of domestic violence by both genders. However the acts of one gender are ignored.

Truth is that both genders have the same mental flaws, its just that men are taught not to complain when a woman is beating them up and women are taught that everything is domestic violence.

I don’t see how offering any service to a single gender is a step towards equality, offer services to both genders and if 80% of the clients are women so be it. Not offering services to men is just wrong.

Gross.

Give yourself a uppercut.

Mr Evil said :

Watson said :

johnboy said :

There are numerous men only social services in the ACT.

Start with the Mens Centre:

http://www.menscentre.org.au/

That website won’t load for me. Must have a built-in testosterone sniffer or something…

Men only: No wimmin allowed! 🙂

LIke most mens programs its directed at blaming the man for the problems.

Anger management etc.

If you read any material on domestic violence for men, its how to stop your violence.

Its pathetic. Plenty of innocent kids are the victims of domestic violence by both genders. However the acts of one gender are ignored.

Truth is that both genders have the same mental flaws, its just that men are taught not to complain when a woman is beating them up and women are taught that everything is domestic violence.

I don’t see how offering any service to a single gender is a step towards equality, offer services to both genders and if 80% of the clients are women so be it. Not offering services to men is just wrong.

Just stop belting women Gooterz.

Simple enough you nutcase.

Watson said :

johnboy said :

There are numerous men only social services in the ACT.

Start with the Mens Centre:

http://www.menscentre.org.au/

That website won’t load for me. Must have a built-in testosterone sniffer or something…

Men only: No wimmin allowed! 🙂

johnboy said :

There are numerous men only social services in the ACT.

Start with the Mens Centre:

http://www.menscentre.org.au/

That website won’t load for me. Must have a built-in testosterone sniffer or something…

johnboy said :

There are numerous men only social services in the ACT.

Start with the Mens Centre:

http://www.menscentre.org.au/

I thought that was a gay club?

I’ve used some of the ‘Women’s services’ (one of the grant recipients too) and I must admit that I found that environment strangely comforting and it made a fairly big difference to my mental state at the time.

So to the men whingeing about not having the equivalent “Men only” services: get off your arses and lobby to get them. Or do you think the women’s services “just happened”.

There are numerous men only social services in the ACT.

Start with the Mens Centre:

http://www.menscentre.org.au/

thebrownstreak6912:16 pm 01 Jul 13

Ben_Dover said :

Feminism; the desire for equality, (but with special treatment/services/status etc for women.)

All animals are equal but…

Feminism; the desire for equality, (but with special treatment/services/status etc for women.)

“Most men would be committing suicide because they perceive themselves as having low self worth and contribute little to society

It’s a great deal more complex that this.

+1
most men, most women……..
My uncle was a well off business man in Canberra. Leading his industry. Married, Children. Committed suicide at work. No one saw it coming.
Not saying that makes me an expert on this at all, but I have to agree there is a level of complexity to suicide that cant be explained by general sweeping statements.

gooterz said :

Most men would be committing suicide because they perceive themselves as having low self worth and contribute little to society. Having most support programs that appear to solely address women’s issues surely makes this worse. Then the not so subtle effect that most of these groups actively practice misandry.
What exactly are these grants and how, are they different to all the other funding of these programs?

+1

Roundhead89 said :

steveu said :

Theres no debate about completion rates with suicide in Australia. Its definitely a 4:1 ratio.
And yep, family court and CSA have alot to answer for, however I disagree that family violence has much to do with that either.

The reason why the male suicide rate has increased so much is because of women’s rights and feminism. Men are no longer comfortable in the natural social order and are having their authority constantly undermined by women. Having a female PM didn’t help, as well as all the garbage about gender which bogged the country down and made it increasingly difficult to deal with serious issues.

I know I feel positively suicidal when you take your shirt off on the internet!

Most men would be committing suicide because they perceive themselves as having low self worth and contribute little to society. Having most support programs that appear to solely address women’s issues surely makes this worse. Then the not so subtle effect that most of these groups actively practice misandry.
What exactly are these grants and how, are they different to all the other funding of these programs?

Roundhead89 said :

The reason why the male suicide rate has increased so much is because of women’s rights and feminism. Men are no longer comfortable in the natural social order and are having their authority constantly undermined by women. Having a female PM didn’t help, as well as all the garbage about gender which bogged the country down and made it increasingly difficult to deal with serious issues.

What I like here is how you have a little rave about gender, and then criticise others for talking about gender. Top logic.

Roundhead89 said :

steveu said :

Theres no debate about completion rates with suicide in Australia. Its definitely a 4:1 ratio.
And yep, family court and CSA have alot to answer for, however I disagree that family violence has much to do with that either.

The reason why the male suicide rate has increased so much is because of women’s rights and feminism. Men are no longer comfortable in the natural social order and are having their authority constantly undermined by women. Having a female PM didn’t help, as well as all the garbage about gender which bogged the country down and made it increasingly difficult to deal with serious issues.

Even if that were true,which I believe it isn’t,get used to it because we’re not about to go backwards to the dark ages.The reasons for suicide are complex and varied and it is often mentioned that economic worry is a significant trigger in the middle aged and easy access to powerful prescription painkillers is another factor.

Blaming women’s rights and feminism suggests that you’re bitter and twisted and has misogynistic undertones..

TheBusDriver10:06 am 30 Jun 13

Pork Hunt said :

TheBusDriver said :

With the passing of the law on modification to the Sex Discrimination act, and frecognition of Trans and Intersex people, I suppose we’re now going to see demands for grants for them or threats of a big class action?

Frecognition: knowing what someone’s freckle looks like…

Brilliant! I like it. I invented a new word, one that has a practical use and is funny as well.

Roundhead89 said :

steveu said :

Theres no debate about completion rates with suicide in Australia. Its definitely a 4:1 ratio.
And yep, family court and CSA have alot to answer for, however I disagree that family violence has much to do with that either.

The reason why the male suicide rate has increased so much is because of women’s rights and feminism. Men are no longer comfortable in the natural social order and are having their authority constantly undermined by women. Having a female PM didn’t help, as well as all the garbage about gender which bogged the country down and made it increasingly difficult to deal with serious issues.

No-one said male suicide rates have increased. They have always been higher than women’s. So trying to blame Julia Gillard makes you look pretty silly. There are lots of things you could accuse her of, but not this.

Anyway, men having their authority undermined by women sounds to me like a good thing.

IP

Roundhead is endlessly…

Well silly is just too kind.

Insane?

smiling politely10:55 pm 29 Jun 13

Roundhead89 said :

The reason why the male suicide rate has increased so much is because of women’s rights and feminism. Men are no longer comfortable in the natural social order and are having their authority constantly undermined by women. Having a female PM didn’t help, as well as all the garbage about gender which bogged the country down and made it increasingly difficult to deal with serious issues.

Oh please. You sound like all those old blokes who sit around saying the whole world starting going downhill when women got the vote all those years ago.

Here’s an idea – improving women’s equality and socio-economic outcomes actually has benefits for men. And men have to, absolutely have to, be a part of that process of improvement. Quit your whinging. Be a man about it and make some changes, starting with your attitude.

Pork Hunt said :

TheBusDriver said :

With the passing of the law on modification to the Sex Discrimination act, and frecognition of Trans and Intersex people, I suppose we’re now going to see demands for grants for them or threats of a big class action?

Frecognition: knowing what someone’s freckle looks like…

You get 10 points for that one Porker. 🙂

steveu said :

Theres no debate about completion rates with suicide in Australia. Its definitely a 4:1 ratio.
And yep, family court and CSA have alot to answer for, however I disagree that family violence has much to do with that either.

The reason why the male suicide rate has increased so much is because of women’s rights and feminism. Men are no longer comfortable in the natural social order and are having their authority constantly undermined by women. Having a female PM didn’t help, as well as all the garbage about gender which bogged the country down and made it increasingly difficult to deal with serious issues.

Theres no debate about completion rates with suicide in Australia. Its definitely a 4:1 ratio.
And yep, family court and CSA have alot to answer for, however I disagree that family violence has much to do with that either.

steveu said :

I guess I will get howled down if I were to suggest this is the 21st century, and perhaps un-necessary and possibly even sexist to favour one series of groups over other based on gender?
Whilst the completion rates of male suicides vs females has reduced from 5:1 to 4:1, perhaps some groups that support them could get some money? I cant see how anyone can ignore that statistic and not be concerned. I wonder what the response would be if the stats were reversed?

Yes, commence howling. There are some statistics (like suicide) which show men doing worse, and a lot showing women doing worse. In fact, I’d wager, based on knowledge and experience of the field, that male suicide is contributed to by the reduction of power held by men, e.g. why can’t I have unlimited access to my children without paying any child maintenance even though I used to bash my ex-?

Also male suicide rates are higher because men are better at it. True.

IP

I guess I will get howled down if I were to suggest this is the 21st century, and perhaps un-necessary and possibly even sexist to favour one series of groups over other based on gender?
Whilst the completion rates of male suicides vs females has reduced from 5:1 to 4:1, perhaps some groups that support them could get some money? I cant see how anyone can ignore that statistic and not be concerned. I wonder what the response would be if the stats were reversed?

TheBusDriver said :

With the passing of the law on modification to the Sex Discrimination act, and frecognition of Trans and Intersex people, I suppose we’re now going to see demands for grants for them or threats of a big class action?

Frecognition: knowing what someone’s freckle looks like…

TheBusDriver5:41 pm 28 Jun 13

With the passing of the law on modification to the Sex Discrimination act, and frecognition of Trans and Intersex people, I suppose we’re now going to see demands for grants for them or threats of a big class action?

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