Woollies Dickson – where’s the consultation, Gubmint?

I-filed 7 July 2009 61

Woollies Dickson has put a couple of big green dongers exactly where the 16 or so most convenient car parking spaces are (were) – right out the front – and appear to be using them as additional storage.
Did the ACT Government consult with the public, as to whether/where they should be placed? If not, why not?
Where were the Greens when this was arranged?
Where and when was it announced to the public?
How much is Woollies paying to inconvenience shoppers? Commercial rent?
Why hasn’t Woollies been required to simply build itself additional space above the shop – or at least, further away from the premium spaces?
How longterm is this arrangement?

Yet again, a totally dishonest Government, boasting about a consultative approach while doing the exact opposite.

[ED – Although it could just be Woolworths pulling a swifty…?]

UPDATE: ED – So having nipped down to Dickson it appears that what I-filed calls “dongers” are shipping containers. Which makes me a-feared for her love life. Here are the offending items:


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Clown Killer Clown Killer 10:37 am 07 Jul 09

So around twenty car parking spaces are lost. Big deal. Consultation? For what purpose? It’s not like it’s an issue.

DanRayner DanRayner 10:47 am 07 Jul 09

Surely it is more of an inconvenience to their own business rather than to an individual shopper?

Each unavailable car space represents a loss of income for Woolies (money lost = the amount of money woolies makes per day / total car spaces x unavailable car spaces)

They’re only shooting themselves in the foot…

CapitalK CapitalK 10:53 am 07 Jul 09

I think the point is that the car park doesn’t belong to Woolies – it belongs to ACT Government?? ie the Governement can not collect parking on those spaces, so is woolies paying rent instead.
I may still be reading this wrong, so feel free to correct me.

DanRayner DanRayner 11:02 am 07 Jul 09

So either Woolies is officially paying rent (was there consultation? do we even need consultation? who cares?) or they are not paying rent and are illegally squatting (gov not taking action? should we boycott woolies? who cares?).

Or Woolies owns the carpark and can do what they like (unlikely, but possible)

Duke Duke 11:06 am 07 Jul 09

What the hell is a donger?

DanRayner DanRayner 11:14 am 07 Jul 09

Duke said :

What the hell is a donger?

HAHAHAHA! Excellent point! (I did wonder but I figured it must be big enough to stop a car!)

Clown Killer Clown Killer 11:25 am 07 Jul 09

What the hell is a donger?

It’s a portable building – the most common place you’ll see them around Canberra is in the construction industry where they’re used for site offices, store rooms, lunch rooms etc.

G-Fresh G-Fresh 11:28 am 07 Jul 09

lol yet more public consultation bollocks.

Just because we didn’t all receive signed and perfumed letters of invitation from the Chief Minister doesn’t mean that we weren’t able to put forward comments on the development.

Seriously guys, if you are concerned with the developments in your areas, have your say through ACTPLA!!!! ACTPLA links for public commentary

And stop these stupid threads that suggest we should all be involved in every decision. We elected the government to make these calls for us!!

Jivrashia Jivrashia 11:38 am 07 Jul 09

Thanks for the heads up I-filed.

I was still two minds as to which supermarket to shop at this evening.
One more reason to avoid Woollies Dickson like the plague.

Br1anL Br1anL 11:50 am 07 Jul 09

Long time reader frist time writer…..

Here is a thought….Maybe wollies are looking use this as a measure control the queues in the shop. Less people parking means less people inside.

niftydog niftydog 11:51 am 07 Jul 09

Jebus, some people just really don’t want to walk those four extra steps do they?!?!

johnboy – I think we need a new award to go alongside “flame of the week” and “nutter of the month” – “Storm in a teacup of the year.”

deye deye 12:13 pm 07 Jul 09

IIRC correctly I saw a sign saying they were going to be renovating. If you were renovating would you place the containers near where you need them, or further away ?

puzzlepunk puzzlepunk 12:26 pm 07 Jul 09

I-filed, you are a very angry person – or is that the governments fault too.

trevar trevar 12:27 pm 07 Jul 09

Clown Killer said :

What the hell is a donger?

It’s a portable building – the most common place you’ll see them around Canberra is in the construction industry where they’re used for site offices, store rooms, lunch rooms etc.

My first thought was that it was not unlike a franger, only bigger…

ant ant 1:16 pm 07 Jul 09

IFiled said: “Woollies Dickson has put a couple of big green dongers exactly where the 16 or so most convenient car parking spaces are (were) – right out the front – and appear to be using them as additional storage.”

Land grab! You see it around quite a lot. The most blatant was the airport taking public land for their next carpark, but at least they put that one under the government’s nose before doing it.

You see construction doing it too, taking over the footpath, then the nature strip, and finally half the road (Kings Ave in front of the Edmund Barton being a current case in point), often seemingly so the workers have somewhere to park!

If Woolies are paying for it, it’d be interesting to see what the going rate for a parking spot at Dickson is.

Woody Mann-Caruso Woody Mann-Caruso 1:18 pm 07 Jul 09

I wasn’t consulted before you wrote this post. Thinking I was entitled to such consultation is about as ridiculous as you thinking TEH GOVINMINT needs to have a warm and fuzzy roundtable with TEH PUBLIX everytime a public servant takes a breath.

sepi sepi 1:27 pm 07 Jul 09

There was a hilarious piece in the CT yesterday about a construction fence in yarralumla. It was blocking the footpath for months on end, so some of the infirm oldies asked for it to be moved to the property boundary so they could get to the bus stop.

ACT govt action was to require the construction complany to instead build a temporary footpath, in front of the real footpath that was behind the fence.

Only problem was…..that temporary footpath would require planning application and could take months… It seems the company saw sense and moved their construction fence.

Only in Canberra hey.

Jivrashia Jivrashia 1:27 pm 07 Jul 09

niftydog said :

Jebus, some people just really don’t want to walk those four extra steps do they?!?!

Niftydog. I think you’re not familiar with the long running relationship between the local shoppers and Woollies Dickson. Their service of recent leaves a great deal to be desired. But what grieves us most is that there are no serious competitor in the vicinity (IGA is small and pricy).
I think most shoppers hate shopping at this supermarket, but they’re at the mercy of time and petrol, and lack of an alternative.

For me this is the last straw that will tip the scale in favour of abandoning this supermarket all together.

abc abc 1:36 pm 07 Jul 09

The new MACS is due to open by July the 11th.. the supermarket by November the 11th.. plans and associated other works were on the ACTPLA site… so try walking a few extra steps you lazy bastard instead of blubbering about taking the closest spots

niftydog niftydog 1:46 pm 07 Jul 09

You’re not in a unique situation there, Jivrashia. Most ACT residents would only have one large supermarket within 10km of their house.

And I find it hard to have sympathy for anyone for whom Dickson is there local shopping centre. Try living in Giralang, mate, you might gain some perspective and stop worrying about such trivial inconveniences.

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