29 November 2013

Yes, synthetic drugs are illegal too

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From ACT Polciing:

ACT Policing is partnering with the Australian Customs and Border Protection Service (ACBPS) to remind business owners that it is an offence to sell or import synthetic drugs, despite myths that they are a legal way to get high.

ACT Policing works with ACBPS and other Australian law enforcement agencies to combat the importation of synthetic drugs.

Detective Sergeant Shane Scott wants to remind ACT business owners that they have a responsibility to be aware of the content of products they are selling.

“All Canberrans need to be aware that the sale and use of synthetic drugs in the ACT is illegal,” Detective Sergeant Scott said.

Australian Customs and Border Protection Director of Targeted Operations, Neil Sugget said the Service was working hard to protect the community.

“Customs and Border Protection work closely with our colleagues at ACT Policing to keep these damaging drugs out of the local community.

“We have the examination skills and latest technologies to detect even the most sophisticated concealments of synthetic drugs entering Australia,” Mr Sugget said.

Detective Sergeant Scott said if business owners are unsure of the content of their products then they need to consider removing them from their store completely or seek advice from the Therapeutic Goods Association.

ACT Penalties of up to five years in prison and/or fines of up to $55 000 for persons and $275 000 for businesses may apply if the substances are proven to be illegal.

Furthermore, anyone attempting to import a controlled drug or analog, such as the synthetic cannabinoidimetic HU210, may face penalties under the Federal Criminal Code Act 1995 ranging from a fine of up to $825,000 and/or life imprisonment.

If you are concerned a business may be selling synthetic drugs you can contact Crime Stoppers anonymously online at www.crimestoppers.com.au or alternatively call 1800 333 000.

For more information on illicit drugs go to the ACT Policing website at www.police.act.gov.au.

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gungsuperstar8:54 pm 01 Dec 13

Grrrr said :

gungsuperstar said :

It defies belief that we, at some point, allowed the sale of this synthetic bull**** while we still outlawed naturally occurring cannabis.

But hey, we’ve done it with alcohol for years, despite the fact that no stoner in the history of the world has glassed someone.

While I’m struggling to understand how the government has made illegal chemicals that may not have even been devised yet, the “but cannabis is natural!” argument is idiotic. Arsenic is “naturally occuring” too but we don’t pretend that it is OK for human consumption.

As for “no stoner has ever glassed someone”, so just because we’re prepared to make legal one dangerous drug, all drugs you like the sound of should be legal?

There are some good arguments for legalisation of cannabis, but they’re not being put forward in this thread!

Fair call… but I think everyone on the riot act knows what the good arguments are (because they’re raised on at least one article every month)… so it’s easier to just be sarcastic and flippant.

Grrrr said :

While I’m struggling to understand how the government has made illegal chemicals that may not have even been devised yet, the “but cannabis is natural!” argument is idiotic. Arsenic is “naturally occuring” too but we don’t pretend that it is OK for human consumption.

As for “no stoner has ever glassed someone”, so just because we’re prepared to make legal one dangerous drug, all drugs you like the sound of should be legal?

There are some good arguments for legalisation of cannabis, but they’re not being put forward in this thread!

You’re really stretching saying that marijuana is a dangerous drug, especially in relation to alcohol.

gungsuperstar said :

It defies belief that we, at some point, allowed the sale of this synthetic bull**** while we still outlawed naturally occurring cannabis.

But hey, we’ve done it with alcohol for years, despite the fact that no stoner in the history of the world has glassed someone.

While I’m struggling to understand how the government has made illegal chemicals that may not have even been devised yet, the “but cannabis is natural!” argument is idiotic. Arsenic is “naturally occuring” too but we don’t pretend that it is OK for human consumption.

As for “no stoner has ever glassed someone”, so just because we’re prepared to make legal one dangerous drug, all drugs you like the sound of should be legal?

There are some good arguments for legalisation of cannabis, but they’re not being put forward in this thread!

What a load of rubbish!
Aren’t most medicines legal synthetic drugs?
Illegal drugs are illegal drugs.

Codeine containing medicines are a controlled substance.

“All Canberrans need to be aware that the sale and use of synthetic drugs in the ACT is illegal,” Detective Sergeant Scott said.”
That’s the equivalent of saying that driving is illegal.

gungsuperstar8:51 pm 30 Nov 13

DrKoresh said :

That synthetic weed crap is just awful. I remember trekking out to Fyshwick with a mate to buy some when it was still legal, it was a total waste of time.

Amen. They’ve done us all a favor by removing this alternative, because it really isn’t an alternative at all. It’s seriously garbage stuff that does nothing at all – so you’re undertaking significant risks to try and get a high that will never come.

It defies belief that we, at some point, allowed the sale of this synthetic bull**** while we still outlawed naturally occurring cannabis.

But hey, we’ve done it with alcohol for years, despite the fact that no stoner in the history of the world has glassed someone.

Woody Mann-Caruso7:37 pm 30 Nov 13

This idea of making particular molecules illegal is a strange one. C2H6O? Please, consume away, until well past the point of consciousness and even organ failure, if that’s what turns you on. Something that vaguely acts like (?)-(6aR,10aR)-6,6,9-trimethyl-3-pentyl-6a,7,8,10a tetrahydro-6H-benzo[c]chromen-1-ol? That’ll be more time in jail than rapists and murderers put together, thank you.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd6:19 pm 30 Nov 13

voytek3 said :

“As long as we don’t make any money out of it we’ll keep it illegal. And don’t forget to ignorantly continue to maintain a negative attitude towards drugs that we don’t sanction and people that use them too. Remember – being dumb and ignorant is a good thing”

You really do have no brain, do you?

Have you seen what a lot of this crap does to peeps?

It is un tested and un regulated( until now).

That synthetic weed crap is just awful. I remember trekking out to Fyshwick with a mate to buy some when it was still legal, it was a total waste of time.

voytek3 said :

“As long as we don’t make any money out of it we’ll keep it illegal.”

which is weird in itself because even if it was dispensed by pharmacists it could still attract a 10% GST.

“As long as we don’t make any money out of it we’ll keep it illegal. And don’t forget to ignorantly continue to maintain a negative attitude towards drugs that we don’t sanction and people that use them too. Remember – being dumb and ignorant is a good thing”

Yep, and probably much more poisonous than well understood and sometimes used medicinally drugs like cannabis, cocaine, heroin and amphetamine.

We need more scence behind our drugs policies rather than playing legal cat-and-mouse so that drug users are constantly part of unsanctioned human trials of potentially psychoactive drugs.

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