You get a vote on the Dickson supermarket options

PantsMan said :

I got a “postcard” voting slip in the mail – complete with reply paid postage – about this from the “Communications Unit, Economic Development Directorate.” Sounds like the CIA’s “General Plans Division.”

I think 10 years of bad consultation, total service delivery failure, and bent administrative decisions is really starting to catch up with this Government, but I don’t think a postcard will fix it.

Next they might try a fridge magnet.

I got a “postcard” voting slip in the mail – complete with reply paid postage – about this from the “Communications Unit, Economic Development Directorate.” Sounds like the CIA’s “General Plans Division.”

I think 10 years of bad consultation, total service delivery failure, and bent administrative decisions is really starting to catch up with this Government, but I don’t think a postcard will fix it.

I-filed said :

thehutch said :

Deref said :

If I was a restaurant proprietor in Dickson I’d be screaming blue bloody murder. Lack of parking will kill Dickson.

In fairness, the plans I remembered reading from May, included underground parking. I don’t think there will be loss of carparking in the longer term.

Personally, if we are going to have development, I believe development in areas like the Dickson group centres actually makes sense.

People want free parking out of hours to go to a restaurant. Underground paid parking will also kill Dickson restaurants!

maybe the underground parking would be free at certain times, or certain lengths of time like Woden.

Usually development on these plans happens as buildings reach the end of their life and are knocked down and replaced.

I understood in the consultations too that underground parking would be the go for the new supermarket sites with some short term pain though while it was being built.

thehutch said :

Deref said :

If I was a restaurant proprietor in Dickson I’d be screaming blue bloody murder. Lack of parking will kill Dickson.

In fairness, the plans I remembered reading from May, included underground parking. I don’t think there will be loss of carparking in the longer term.

Personally, if we are going to have development, I believe development in areas like the Dickson group centres actually makes sense.

People want free parking out of hours to go to a restaurant. Underground paid parking will also kill Dickson restaurants!

It’s not really selfish to grocery shop by car. If you get a few bags, it can be very selfish to take them on a bus since there is only enough room for people and a tiny bit of luggage. If you get enough to fill a car, then a car is the correct transport option.

Deref said :

If I was a restaurant proprietor in Dickson I’d be screaming blue bloody murder. Lack of parking will kill Dickson.

In fairness, the plans I remembered reading from May, included underground parking. I don’t think there will be loss of carparking in the longer term.

Personally, if we are going to have development, I believe development in areas like the Dickson group centres actually makes sense.

If I was a restaurant proprietor in Dickson I’d be screaming blue bloody murder. Lack of parking will kill Dickson.

Reducing the amount of parking at Dickson for another supermarket is a ridiculous idea. Dickson is popular because of the cheap open air parking. Putting the bus station a five minute walk from the supermarkets and expecting people to shop by bus is ludicrous. Manuel Xyrakis at Shoprite Ainslie will be rubbing his hands with glee! Everyone will shop at Ainslie or Lyneham.

Watson said :

So where are the people shopping at those new supermarkets going to park?

Not the government’s problem. Didn’t they tell you? Cars are evil and you’re a baby seal clubber if you even think about using one. And don’t expect the government to supply car parks for you, tree killer. Oh they’ll take your exorbitant registration fees and spend stupid amounts of money on roads but don’t you dare expect to have a patch of bitumen at the end of them to park your mother-earth-killing death machine.

That map/plan doesn’t resemble much of what I remember from the community consultation event. Aside from the wide E-W footpath and mention of a bus area, this looks like much more of a developer bastardised one: more multi-storey buildings and retail spaces.

Thanks for listening ACT govt!

Mothy said :

Well, that was an illuminating little trek. Voted for both on Block 21 (i.e. keep the surface car park at block 19) and the webpage updates telling me;

“Please find below a summary of your vote – One supermarket on Block 19 and one supermarket on Block 21 later.”

ACT Govt Consultations – WINNING!

poetix said :

I just voted at the site and the ‘summary of my vote’ that followed was exactly the opposite of how I had voted. I checked. The one I had chosen was still marked, and was the opposite option from the summary. Quite annoying, as it defeats the purpose of voting. It’s hardly life and death, but still…

There seems to be something wrong with the site, and I have reported the fault. I wonder if anyone else has noticed the same problem?

Yes, what happened with your vote is exactly what happened to me Mothy, so the site is officially stuffed. We both posted comments here at about the same time after voting. I wonder if it records the other way, i.e. if you vote for one supermarket now and one later, will it record that as both to be built now, or if it records all votes as one now, one later?

They have to fix this and start again as it makes a mockery of the whole thing.

It’s barely a choice – one or two supermarkets built over the big carpark? One small carpark left until another developer manages to get their hands on it to build another ugly high rise apartment block. The whole place is going to be a fuster-cluck.

so what happens to the motor registery?

I just voted at the site and the ‘summary of my vote’ that followed was exactly the opposite of how I had voted. I checked. The one I had chosen was still marked, and was the opposite option from the summary. Quite annoying, as it defeats the purpose of voting. It’s hardly life and death, but still…

There seems to be something wrong with the site, and I have reported the fault. I wonder if anyone else has noticed the same problem?

Well, that was an illuminating little trek. Voted for both on Block 21 (i.e. keep the surface car park at block 19) and the webpage updates telling me;

“Please find below a summary of your vote – One supermarket on Block 19 and one supermarket on Block 21 later.”

ACT Govt Consultations – WINNING!

I’m less interested in what supermarkets are going to be allowed to go where and far more interested in what they plan on doing with the tennants (residential and commercial) of all the existing buildings that now look to be getting replaced with new buildings of varying heights.

Noting that ACTPLA building (remaining black on the map) will get to stay where and as it is, but everything else looks like getting shafted (The Tradies, Telstra House, CrimTrac (Kodak House), not to mention everything up and down Wooley St).

Or perhaps I’m just not looking at the bigger picture.

Watson said :

So where are the people shopping at those new supermarkets going to park?

C’mon, get on board already. In Canberra we only use public transport. The bus system is awesome and will get you anywhere you want to go in record time.

/sarcasm

So where are the people shopping at those new supermarkets going to park?

Wouldnt it make more sense to put a Coles or something larger at Downer shops? Dickson is already quite congested, dont we need to divert some traffic away?