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Zed in laura norder snoozefest over police assaults

By johnboy - 5 April 2012 7

Liberal Leader Zed Seselja is parroting concerns from the Australian Federal Police Association about the assault of police officers.

“I was very concerned to hear from the AFPA that under the existing laws, police officers sometimes do not bother laying charges against people who assault them because they’re ‘losing faith in that judicial process,’” Mr Seselja said.

“The AFPA also estimates that one ACT police officer is assaulted each week and said there is a growing number of compensation claims for serious injuries.

“This is why the Canberra Liberal’s legislation is so important, as we must do everything we can to deter violent assaults and other offences against police in the course of their duties.

“Our legislation amends the Crimes ACT 1900 to provide tougher penalties for offences against police, meaning a number of offences including assault, manslaughter and threats to kill would be considered an “aggravated? offence and have higher prosecution penalties.

While we deplore the assault of any person in Canberra one does have to wonder what percentage of those 50 odd assaults a year would not have occurred if the perpetrator had faced tougher penalties.

Assaulting police is rarely the result of rational thought.

But moving on; is Zed Seselja a real person? Or is he just a Zed-bot pre-programmed with talkback radio friendly knee jerks?

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Zed in laura norder snoozefest over police assaults
rhino 3:37 pm 05 Apr 12

c_c said :

johnboy said :

c_c said :

“Assaulting police is rarely the result of rational thought.”

What crime is the result of rational thought though?

The ones who don’t get caught? Or seek to get caught to make a political point?

So a great great many really.

There’s an important distinction between rationality in and rationality of.
A irrational act can be undertaken rationally, and vice verse.

So more to the point, what crime is the result of a rational decision to break societal norms?
To break the law always requires a certain amount of irrationality. Indeed it’s very dangerous to start speaking of rationality in breaking the law because so many major criminals, including political ones in history, have spoken of the rationality of why they did what they did.

Nelson Mandela was a criminal breaking the law. So it also depends on how just you see the laws. Some things used to be illegal that are legal now. Would you look so harshly back on those people of the past doing things that are commonplace now? You could say they were just ahead of their time or had (what now seems like) a clearer picture of what the laws should be rather than following them as they are.

But there are some crimes like murder and theft, that I suspect even the people doing them know are clearly wrong regardless of the laws in place.

Beacon 3:26 pm 05 Apr 12

As I see it, we have a couple of contributing factors to this problem. The first is the apathy that is all too apparent within ACT Policing. Try getting them to attend routine community problems. They are always too busy. Too busy doing what? I saw a police van speeding along Barry Drive several weeks back and it even did a blatant red light at Clunies Ross Drive. No flashing lights or siren. And all so its driver could get to the Police Credit Union before he knocked off work. It is almost as if some police simply don’t want to do the job they are being paid for. If they are no longer interested, then they should resign and look for a job in Climate Change!

And frankly, I do not see the latest campaign to increase the number of female officers as being anything positive. From what I have seen of female police, there are only a few good ones with the guts to take on the drunks in Civic on Saturday nights. The rest are too small or too unfit to make a difference. Did you know that a man of 55 who wants to join the AFP has to be fitter than a female of 30 – more pushups, more situps and the same beep-test score! Wat happened to the old-style cops who could mix it with the drunks without recourse to Tasers and cap-spray?

The courts have been equally responsible with their pathetic sentences and the ego-trips of certain magistrates. Thankfully one has retired, but the other has been elevated so we will still need to deal with his ego for some time to come.

c_c 2:24 pm 05 Apr 12

johnboy said :

c_c said :

“Assaulting police is rarely the result of rational thought.”

What crime is the result of rational thought though?

The ones who don’t get caught? Or seek to get caught to make a political point?

So a great great many really.

There’s an important distinction between rationality in and rationality of.
A irrational act can be undertaken rationally, and vice verse.

So more to the point, what crime is the result of a rational decision to break societal norms?
To break the law always requires a certain amount of irrationality. Indeed it’s very dangerous to start speaking of rationality in breaking the law because so many major criminals, including political ones in history, have spoken of the rationality of why they did what they did.

johnboy 2:09 pm 05 Apr 12

c_c said :

“Assaulting police is rarely the result of rational thought.”

What crime is the result of rational thought though?

The ones who don’t get caught? Or seek to get caught to make a political point?

So a great great many really.

c_c 2:07 pm 05 Apr 12

“Assaulting police is rarely the result of rational thought.”

What crime is the result of rational thought though?

rhino 1:07 pm 05 Apr 12

“But moving on; is Zed Seselja a real person? Or is he just a Zed-bot pre-programmed with talkback radio friendly knee jerks?”

You mean it’s just a crowd pleaser comment to bring up this issue?

Keijidosha 12:29 pm 05 Apr 12

But moving on; is Zed Seselja a real person? Or is he just a Zed-bot pre-programmed with talkback radio friendly knee jerks?

I won’t be surprised on the day when his cut and paste method of creating (and recycling) media releases goes horribly wrong.

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