2 August 2013

Zed Seselja is upset again

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Simon Sheikh used to be the national director of GetUp!

He no longer is. When he become a candidate he said he no longer had any ties to that company.

GetUp! director Sam McLean however claims that Sheikh is still technically the director of a subsidiary company, however this is only because they forgot to take his name off a piece of paper, but they’re doing that now.

“GetUp! set up another organisation which we intended to use to help our campaigning but never ended up using at all,” he said.

“So it’s an organisation that exists on paper but not in the real world. It doesn’t have any money, any employees or has never done anything.

This may seem like the world’s biggest non-story ever, but Zed Seselja would disagree with you.

He thinks it’s rather important.

“One, because he’s said that he doesn’t, so it’s important that we can take at face value what candidates say,” he said.

“Secondly, I think it goes to GetUp’s credibility as well. GetUp! claims it’s not affiliated with political parties but it does appear that GetUp! has very very strong links to the Greens. “

Story courtesy of ABC News.

[Image by RenoVal (CC BY 2.0)]


Rioter Masquara also submitted a story about this with a different take than me. I’ve added it below in the interest of fairness:

What was Sheikh doing organizing a Pty Ltd company with himself as director, a subsidiary of GetUp? According to news reports he only resigned last night. Some oversight! What did Sheikh plan to do with the company?

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I love all this talk about how X party will do Y with your vote. If you have even half a brain, and know lots of numbers, YOU can control exactly where your preferences go, because YOU can allocate them. If you are lazy and/or inumerate, you can vote above the line, giving that party your vote and your preferences. OR, and especially in the ACT, you can allocate your own preferences by voting below the line. In the ACT you haven’t really got any excuse not to. I live in NSW and still vote below the line. It takes time, I have to count back and ensure I haven’t stuffed up and left out any numbers or used any twice, but it’s my vote and I’ll send it exactly where I want it to go.

johnboy said :

“YOU’LL WASTE YOUR VOTE”

Is the great cry of liars from both the major parties desperate to continue the two horse race

Clearly.

The more desperate Zed becomes, the more he makes me want to vote for Mr Sheikh.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd7:35 am 03 Aug 13

Wow that would be delicious after moron zed rolled humphries to only then lose the vote.

thebrownstreak692:29 pm 02 Aug 13

Beau Locks said :

Affirmative Action Man said :

Beau Locks said :

If your opinion of Zed is even remotely as low as mine (and I should note that this is not the least bit party political–I have a lot of time for some Tories), then you I would strongly urge you to consider voting Green 1, ALP 2.

Complete waste of time & a vote. Every single election the Greens tell us they will win the 2nd senate seat. They never have & never even gone close even when you’ve had an unpopular Liberal Govmint & a well known Green candidate.

It wouldn’t be a waste of a vote; you’re forgetting about preferences. Voting Green will still help get Kate Lundy over the line. It just means that there’s that bit more of a chance that Zed won’t get in. Last election it came down to 1500 votes. Which isn’t the closest margin, and I’ll readily concede that the Greens’ popularity (at least at a Federal level, if the polls are to be believed) has dropped since the last contest. Even if it didn’t stop Zed from getting in, it’d be a zero sum game (i.e. we’d keep the status quo, and your vote would get handballed to Lundy). No one would waste their vote, and if a few thousand ALP voters adopted that strategy it would have an instant impact on the make up of the Senate.

Correct. A vote for Greens is a vote for Labor.

Affirmative Action Man said :

Beau Locks said :

If your opinion of Zed is even remotely as low as mine (and I should note that this is not the least bit party political–I have a lot of time for some Tories), then you I would strongly urge you to consider voting Green 1, ALP 2.

Complete waste of time & a vote. Every single election the Greens tell us they will win the 2nd senate seat. They never have & never even gone close even when you’ve had an unpopular Liberal Govmint & a well known Green candidate.

It wouldn’t be a waste of a vote; you’re forgetting about preferences. Voting Green will still help get Kate Lundy over the line. It just means that there’s that bit more of a chance that Zed won’t get in. Last election it came down to 1500 votes. Which isn’t the closest margin, and I’ll readily concede that the Greens’ popularity (at least at a Federal level, if the polls are to be believed) has dropped since the last contest. Even if it didn’t stop Zed from getting in, it’d be a zero sum game (i.e. we’d keep the status quo, and your vote would get handballed to Lundy). No one would waste their vote, and if a few thousand ALP voters adopted that strategy it would have an instant impact on the make up of the Senate.

Beau Locks said :

I would soooooo love to see the pious little windbag lose a safe Liberal Senate seat to Simon Sheikh.

Tory voters can stop reading now, but for dyed in the wool Labor voters I have a suggestion: I urge you to vote Green in the Senate. Why? Because Kate Lundy will still get back in. No question at all. Even if Simon Sheikh gets quota hands down and scores more votes that Lundy, she’d still get back in, purely on preferences. The only contest for the Federal election in the ACT is between the Greens and the Libs in the Senate.

So, I reckon the question that Labor voters should be arxing themselves is this: who would I *least* prefer in the Senate? Toxic scrote Zed, or Simon Sheikh (whatever personal opinions you may have about him; personally I’ve been extremely impressed with his positive campaigning style and willingness to get out and about in the electorate)? If you’re a Labor voter/supporter, and you’d also like to have Zed in the Senate, you can help make that happen by voting number one for the ALP. If your opinion of Zed is even remotely as low as mine (and I should note that this is not the least bit party political–I have a lot of time for some Tories), then you I would strongly urge you to consider voting Green 1, ALP 2.

And this is going to make what difference when Zed gets a full quota on first preferences?

Although it would be hilarious if Lundy got beaten b Sheikh when they tried your suggestion.

“YOU’LL WASTE YOUR VOTE”

Is the great cry of liars from both the major parties desperate to continue the two horse race

Affirmative Action Man1:54 pm 02 Aug 13

Beau Locks said :

I would soooooo love to see the pious little windbag lose a safe Liberal Senate seat to Simon Sheikh.

Tory voters can stop reading now, but for dyed in the wool Labor voters I have a suggestion: I urge you to vote Green in the Senate. Why? Because Kate Lundy will still get back in. No question at all. Even if Simon Sheikh gets quota hands down and scores more votes that Lundy, she’d still get back in, purely on preferences. The only contest for the Federal election in the ACT is between the Greens and the Libs in the Senate.

So, I reckon the question that Labor voters should be arxing themselves is this: who would I *least* prefer in the Senate? Toxic scrote Zed, or Simon Sheikh (whatever personal opinions you may have about him; personally I’ve been extremely impressed with his positive campaigning style and willingness to get out and about in the electorate)? If you’re a Labor voter/supporter, and you’d also like to have Zed in the Senate, you can help make that happen by voting number one for the ALP. If your opinion of Zed is even remotely as low as mine (and I should note that this is not the least bit party political–I have a lot of time for some Tories), then you I would strongly urge you to consider voting Green 1, ALP 2.

Complete waste of time & a vote. Every single election the Greens tell us they will win the 2nd senate seat. They never have & never even gone close even when you’ve had an unpopular Liberal Govmint & a well known Green candidate.

I would soooooo love to see the pious little windbag lose a safe Liberal Senate seat to Simon Sheikh.

Tory voters can stop reading now, but for dyed in the wool Labor voters I have a suggestion: I urge you to vote Green in the Senate. Why? Because Kate Lundy will still get back in. No question at all. Even if Simon Sheikh gets quota hands down and scores more votes that Lundy, she’d still get back in, purely on preferences. The only contest for the Federal election in the ACT is between the Greens and the Libs in the Senate.

So, I reckon the question that Labor voters should be arxing themselves is this: who would I *least* prefer in the Senate? Toxic scrote Zed, or Simon Sheikh (whatever personal opinions you may have about him; personally I’ve been extremely impressed with his positive campaigning style and willingness to get out and about in the electorate)? If you’re a Labor voter/supporter, and you’d also like to have Zed in the Senate, you can help make that happen by voting number one for the ALP. If your opinion of Zed is even remotely as low as mine (and I should note that this is not the least bit party political–I have a lot of time for some Tories), then you I would strongly urge you to consider voting Green 1, ALP 2.

It’s amusing to me that Zed said “it’s important that we can take at face value what candidates say”, given that he said he would remain as Opposition Leader of the ACT Liberals for the full term of government….?

troll-sniffer10:25 am 02 Aug 13

The old Zed, paragon of virtue and process. I guess when you’re the unlucky holder of the least useful senate ticket in the country having tanties is part of the job, there’s little else you can accomplish.

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