A new recruit for the Alexander Maconochie Resort

victor 7 October 2012 63

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Three shining lights of Canberra have been dispensed with for a period of time, unfortunately not long enough, for their spree of armed burglaries.

The leading luminary of the trio, William John Callan, 19, was caught in part due to his posing on his unsecured Facebook page, showing him posing next to the revolver used in a robbery.

Once again however the courts feel that these low lifes don’t need to take responsibility for their actions.

“Supreme Court Justice John Burns sentenced Callan to five years jail, but he will be eligible for parole in June 2014. In sentencing Callan, Justice Burns noted the boy’s good criminal record, his guilty plea, and the continuing support from his family. He said Callan had ”reasonable prospects” for rehabilitation.”

A couple of points on Justice Burn’s observations :

‘the boy’ : umm…he’s actually a man.

‘Good criminal record’ : I suppose we can interpret that in a couple of ways.

‘his guilty plea’: umm…he was caught red-handed breaking into the Burns Club by a police sting.

‘ the continuing support from his family’: let’s hope this acorn fell a long way from the tree.

‘reasonable prospects for rehabilitation’: read – this will be a name to watch for years to come.

Oh well, at least the good citizens of Canberra can now sleep secure for a couple of years whilst Mr Callan enjoys the arduous life inside a Canberra prison…sorry, we’re not allowed to call it a prison – that would upset the residents too much…the Alexander Maconochie Centre.

UPDATE 07/10/12 16:46: Thanks to babyface for pointing us at the photo.


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ezy10z ezy10z 2:30 pm 29 Oct 12

hows about this….
instead of sending the boat people back home… we place them in the AMC and send these scum bags to a jail in asia? i think thats perfectly reasonable

colourful sydney racing identity colourful sydney racing identity 2:46 pm 12 Oct 12

colourful sydney racing identity said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

I don’t think anyone said he should be raped

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

What is it with people on this site indulging so often in rape fantasies?

+1. I think anyone who can come up with circumstances where rape is justifiable, humorous or deserved, is one small step away from being a perpetrator themselves.

No one fantasising about it, just a fa t of prison life.
Still, funny and he clearly does deserve it.

you think rape is funny and deserved? Wow, just wow.

When its done to scumbag criminals? Sure.

stuffed up the quotes there *sigh* what I was trying to do was point out that *you* did say that rape would be deserved and funny. How you could then post that no-one is saying it should happen astounds me. Actually, what astounds me is that anyone could think that rape could be funny or deserved.

As I had previously posted, people who can find ways to justify rape are not far removed from those that would commit it.

HenryBG HenryBG 1:23 pm 12 Oct 12

Henry82 said :

p1 said :

These two lines appear to contradict each other.

He could be the plumber/electrician 😉

…or a policeman who turned up to raid the party?

carnardly carnardly 1:13 pm 12 Oct 12

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HOW DO YOU KNOW IT’S A FAKE? WERE YOU THERE? WHERE WERE YOU EXACTLY WHEN THIS PHOTO WAS TAKEN? I was actually there that night, it’s a fake toy gun. No, I am not friends with him or have any contact with him whatsoever. However some of the things being posted here are absolutely disgusting. He should be raped? Saying those things takes you down to his level. No body deserves to be raped and it’s sickening that people would even have that thought cross their mind. He is only 19 years old and the Judge has more experience with these kinds of situations than any of you and would not have given him a 2 year parole period if he/she didn’t think Will would be rehabilitated. He has a family who are all really distressed by what is being said here so keep your opinions to yourself. Yes he should be punished of course and in no way am i defending him… but RAPE? God imagine if your child or bestfriend or girlfriend or family member was raped.. please think before you post something so ridiculous and offensive

No innocent person simply doing their job deserves to be held up either. Think about things from the side of the victims here. They might have all manner of flashbacks and stress resulting in damages to future career prospects or their own lives and family relationships.

He is not only 19 years old. He is an adult in the eyes of the law and all things adult – eg voting, driving, gaining meaningful employment and making a positive contribution to the community. He chose to do what he did and it’s hardly a 10 yo kid making a stupid mistake. He made a conscious decision to rob the burns club. Whether the gun was real or fake is by the by. If you were the poor suck looking into the barrel end of it you were still probably shitting yourself.

Henry82 Henry82 11:00 am 12 Oct 12

p1 said :

These two lines appear to contradict each other.

He could be the plumber/electrician 😉

p1 p1 10:38 am 12 Oct 12

cb123 said :

…it’s a fake toy gun.

So it isn’t even a real toy?

cb123 said :

I was actually there that night…

No, I am not friends with him or have any contact with him whatsoever.

These two lines appear to contradict each other.

Henry82 Henry82 10:19 am 12 Oct 12

AnneHann said :

No, was just clearing that up for all the “detectives” identifying this fake gun as a real one.

Just fyi, in the eyes of the law, an imitation or replica is still classified as an offensive weapon.

The old “it’s okay, just a fake gun” excuse doesn’t flow well with a magistrate

colourful sydney racing identity colourful sydney racing identity 9:16 am 12 Oct 12

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

I don’t think anyone said he should be raped

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

What is it with people on this site indulging so often in rape fantasies?

+1. I think anyone who can come up with circumstances where rape is justifiable, humorous or deserved, is one small step away from being a perpetrator themselves.

No one fantasising about it, just a fa t of prison life.
Still, funny and he clearly does deserve it.

you think rape is funny and deserved? Wow, just wow.

When its done to scumbag criminals? Sure.

Jungle Jim Jungle Jim 9:16 am 12 Oct 12

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

horrible things

I used to be okay with most of what you posted, but you’ve hit a Gillespie / HenryBG low with your posts in this thread, dude.

Please, just stop with all the rape talk. It’s not appropriate, clever or amusing in any way.

I’m glad this kid was caught and is being punished for his diabolical actions. I only hope his stint at AMC sees him set on the right path in life.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 6:52 am 12 Oct 12

cb123 said :

HOW DO YOU KNOW IT’S A FAKE? WERE YOU THERE? WHERE WERE YOU EXACTLY WHEN THIS PHOTO WAS TAKEN? I was actually there that night, it’s a fake toy gun. No, I am not friends with him or have any contact with him whatsoever. However some of the things being posted here are absolutely disgusting. He should be raped? Saying those things takes you down to his level. No body deserves to be raped and it’s sickening that people would even have that thought cross their mind. He is only 19 years old and the Judge has more experience with these kinds of situations than any of you and would not have given him a 2 year parole period if he/she didn’t think Will would be rehabilitated. He has a family who are all really distressed by what is being said here so keep your opinions to yourself. Yes he should be punished of course and in no way am i defending him… but RAPE? God imagine if your child or bestfriend or girlfriend or family member was raped.. please think before you post something so ridiculous and offensive

I don’t think anyone said he should be raped, I just pointed out the facts that he is a pretty young thing and rape is something that happens when bunches of scumbags with no morals or self control are locked up together.

I guess the fact that he probably will be copping a few penises inside him is a distressing thought to his family, but really, only he put himself in that situation now didn’t he?

LSWCHP LSWCHP 11:39 pm 11 Oct 12

cb123 said :

However some of the things being posted here are absolutely disgusting. He should be raped? Saying those things takes you down to his level. No body deserves to be raped and it’s sickening that people would even have that thought cross their mind. offensive

Yeah, that’s pretty terrible stuff. I’m no fan of the “rape in jail is a great idea” proposition.

But God imagine if you’re an on old bloke like me and your quiet, gentle and studious young daughter who works as a checkout operator at a shop, as my daughter does, was confronted by three masked maniacs with a gun and knives and cleavers, and they threatened to shoot her and chop her into bloody little pieces and kill her so that she would be so terrified that she would readily hand over the money in her till without causing any problems.

When that happened then maybe you’d feel a bit of righteous goddam rage, as I did when I read about this, and maybe you’d write some intemperate things on an internet blog. It’s sad that his family are upset that mean things are being said about him on the internet. It’s even sadder though, that the victims of his crimes are probably jolting awake in the night in a cold sweat, if they can sleep at all.

To paraphrase your words, nobody deserves to undergo such an assault, and it’s sickening that people would even have the thought of doing so cross their minds.

I don’t want him to be raped in jail. But I also don’t want to cross his path, or that of his arsehole mates anytime soon either. The longer he spends in the slammer the happier I’ll be.

LSWCHP LSWCHP 11:15 pm 11 Oct 12

AnneHann said :

After this case I have learnt that you can certainly not believe everything you read in the media.
Yes, I agree regardless of fake or real, the trauma is the same.
And yes I was there when the photograph was taken.

Fair enough then. It’s a fake/replica/toy firearm. As we both seem to agree, that doesn’t make its use in an armed robbery significantly less serious from the point of view of the victims.

But what should we not believe that we read in the media? What I’ve gathered is that this bloke and his mates went around robbing people on a number of occasions while armed with a variety of serious weapons. They were prepared to take down the Burns club while armed and masked and equipped with gear for securing anyone on the premises, which is simply nauseating. In my eyes this isn’t too complicated and these blokes don’t seem like Tinkerbelle and her band of merry pixies heading out for a bit of cheerful frolicking down at Dingley Dell.

If I have the wrong impression, and you have a different perspective on the facts then I’d like to hear what you have to say.

lostinbias lostinbias 10:11 pm 11 Oct 12

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

Jethro said :

Mr Evil said :

PrinceOfAles said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Pretty boy. Will be well recieved in gaol.

I`m pretty sure that he`ll be doing all the receiving

Maybe he should take some Barry White cds with him, just to get the mood right? At least with those ears, the boys will have something to hold onto when the force feed him at bit of sasauge!

What is it with people on this site indulging so often in rape fantasies?

+1. I think anyone who can come up with circumstances where rape is justifiable, humorous or deserved, is one small step away from being a perpetrator themselves.

No one fantasising about it, just a fa t of prison life.
Still, funny and he clearly does deserve it.

you think rape is funny and deserved? Wow, just wow.

When its done to scumbag criminals? Sure.

Wow. There goes my faith in humanity….

cb123 cb123 10:07 pm 11 Oct 12

HOW DO YOU KNOW IT’S A FAKE? WERE YOU THERE? WHERE WERE YOU EXACTLY WHEN THIS PHOTO WAS TAKEN? I was actually there that night, it’s a fake toy gun. No, I am not friends with him or have any contact with him whatsoever. However some of the things being posted here are absolutely disgusting. He should be raped? Saying those things takes you down to his level. No body deserves to be raped and it’s sickening that people would even have that thought cross their mind. He is only 19 years old and the Judge has more experience with these kinds of situations than any of you and would not have given him a 2 year parole period if he/she didn’t think Will would be rehabilitated. He has a family who are all really distressed by what is being said here so keep your opinions to yourself. Yes he should be punished of course and in no way am i defending him… but RAPE? God imagine if your child or bestfriend or girlfriend or family member was raped.. please think before you post something so ridiculous and offensive

AnneHann AnneHann 9:21 pm 11 Oct 12

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

LSWCHP said :

AnneHann said :

That outfit is a halloween costume and that’s a toy gun.

OK, sure. But how do you know that to be the case? The linked CT article describes it as a “gun” and a “revolver” and describes the multiple robberies as “armed”. Admittedly, they were also armed with knives, hatchets and cleavers, but I don’t see any mention of “fake”, ‘toy” or “replica” when talking about that gun.

So I’m quite happy to believe that it’s not the genuine article, but how do you know? Were you there when the photo was taken?

And as Henry82 points out, if it’s pointed at you during a robbery and you believe it to be real then the trauma is pretty much the same.

There is a difference between toy gun and replica. One is illegal and the other is not.

After this case I have learnt that you can certainly not believe everything you read in the media.
Yes, I agree regardless of fake or real, the trauma is the same.
And yes I was there when the photograph was taken.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 8:43 pm 11 Oct 12

LSWCHP said :

AnneHann said :

That outfit is a halloween costume and that’s a toy gun.

OK, sure. But how do you know that to be the case? The linked CT article describes it as a “gun” and a “revolver” and describes the multiple robberies as “armed”. Admittedly, they were also armed with knives, hatchets and cleavers, but I don’t see any mention of “fake”, ‘toy” or “replica” when talking about that gun.

So I’m quite happy to believe that it’s not the genuine article, but how do you know? Were you there when the photo was taken?

And as Henry82 points out, if it’s pointed at you during a robbery and you believe it to be real then the trauma is pretty much the same.

There is a difference between toy gun and replica. One is illegal and the other is not.

LSWCHP LSWCHP 8:02 pm 11 Oct 12

AnneHann said :

That outfit is a halloween costume and that’s a toy gun.

OK, sure. But how do you know that to be the case? The linked CT article describes it as a “gun” and a “revolver” and describes the multiple robberies as “armed”. Admittedly, they were also armed with knives, hatchets and cleavers, but I don’t see any mention of “fake”, ‘toy” or “replica” when talking about that gun.

So I’m quite happy to believe that it’s not the genuine article, but how do you know? Were you there when the photo was taken?

And as Henry82 points out, if it’s pointed at you during a robbery and you believe it to be real then the trauma is pretty much the same.

AnneHann AnneHann 7:13 pm 11 Oct 12

Henry82 said :

AnneHann said :

That outfit is a halloween costume and that’s a toy gun.

still doesn’t change the fact it was used in a robbery

No, was just clearing that up for all the “detectives” identifying this fake gun as a real one.

Henry82 Henry82 3:33 pm 11 Oct 12

AnneHann said :

That outfit is a halloween costume and that’s a toy gun.

still doesn’t change the fact it was used in a robbery

AnneHann AnneHann 2:03 pm 11 Oct 12

That outfit is a halloween costume and that’s a toy gun.

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