1 June 2011

Brodburger finds a home at the Glassworks

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Joy Burch has announced that the beloved Brodburger van’s mexican standoff with the National Capital Authority has ended with the van relocating to the Kingston arts precinct.

The popular Brodburger takeaway venture will relocate to the Canberra Glassworks later this year after the ACT Government brokered an arrangement that will add character and visitors to the Kingston Foreshore arts precinct, ACT Minister for Arts Joy Burch announced today.

Ms Burch said the ACT Government has been working with the Brodburger operators and the Canberra Glassworks for several months to accommodate the popular takeaway business at the Glassworks, which has been looking to secure a long-term tenant for its cafe.

The new Arts Minister met Brodburger owners Sascha Brodbeck and Joelle Bou-Jaoude and Canberra Glassworks Chief Executive Anne Jakle yesterday to confirm the ACT Government would work with the two parties to jointly fund a retrofit of the Glassworks’ cafeteria area to accommodate Brodburger.

“Brodburger currently operates from a caravan in Bowen Park under a temporary agreement with the National Capital Authority and has been looking for a permanent home, so this really is a win-win for everyone,” Ms Burch said.

“The Canberra Glassworks is an ideal location for the Brodburger business because it is close to Bowen Park and the business should be able to keep its current loyal clientele. I expect the move to occur later this year.”

We’ll enquire as to what will happen to the caravan.

UPDATE: This in from Joy Burch’s office on the fate of the van:

It won’t be part of it, but they may park it out the front for a few weeks till people get the idea.

[Photo by Brian]

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la mente torbida9:58 am 15 Sep 11

@Calamity
I don’t WANT Brodburger located at the Bus Depot Markets. I want the chance to get outdoors, use my legs and create some foot traffic around town. Those opportunities are rare in Canberra.

You’re not serious are you? This gotta be a troll

Brodburgers are AMAZING, but you have to understand: if the gov let them stay, then any number of burger vans could set up shop at any location and cite brodburger as the precedent setting operation.

You could say that there are special circumstances because it has become an icon. Well, how are other burger vans supposed to become an icon without breaking the law and putting their vans around the lake?

This outcome is the best possible. The only other option would be to make the area that brodburger is in an official “food zone” and then other vans could set up shop and all have an equal opportunity.

“Why didn’t this food concession in the arts precinct go out to open tender?”

And you’re also policing Julie McKay’s Facebook pix. Impressive multi-tasking skills.

Why didn’t this food concession in the arts precinct go out to open tender?

Brodburger has ruined my lunch, as usually i’d go to Grill’d, but after trying a Brodburger, Grill’d burgers just taste bland.

Keijidosha said :

Anyone catch WIN News last night? I flicked on in the middle of a piece on the Brodburger relocation to hear some numpty spouting off about how “a red caravan on the shore of the lake was not in Walter Burley Griffen’s plan for Canberra”.

Funny, that hasn’t ever stopped the NCA from developing any number of eyesores.

The constant cultural bleaching of Canberra to make way for artificial and regulated urbanity will prevent us from ever having a warm and vibrant city.

Another +1 !

It is the little, quirky things like this that give a city some personality and life.
This weekend we met at Brodburger to have a feed and sit by the lake for a chat. We then got to stroll in the sun down the road to the markets for a look around.

I don’t WANT Brodburger located at the Bus Depot Markets. I want the chance to get outdoors, use my legs and create some foot traffic around town. Those opportunities are rare in Canberra.

mouthface said :

The ongoing saga of Canberra’s answer to Harry’s Café de Wheels continues, but I have never understood the appeal of this business, or its ability to make the headlines on a regular basis. Yes there are people out there who gush about their burgers, to the point of attributing all sorts of cures to ailments, the performance of miracles and their first multiple orgasm after having consumed them, but really, they are just burgers – and expensive, considering they are sold on the side of the road out of a rickety old food van. Maybe the point of all this kerfuffle isn’t really about the service or the miraculous qualities of the food, but about the fact that Canberrans – so eager to embrace something that just sprouted, like some giant red mushroom, on the side of the lake, rather than been planned to within an inch of its life, passed through an environmental impact study, and rubber stamped by at least 150 people on 25 separate committees – are elevating this humble hawker to great heights to protest the over-regulation of every aspect of their neat and tidy little existence in the nanny state. Well they just lost their fight, because the van will be no longer, and it will have been tucked away neatly in the well designed and no doubt sterile environment of a government run amenity. I’m sure the rent will go up substantially for the proprietors, which will finally justify the price of their product.

+1

I was just down by the lake this weekend past and could NOT believe all the action happening around the Brodburger van! I actually commented that I was surprised they didn’t have something bigger on that site with all the potential patrons around, so I do hope when Brodburger move that something else might take it’s place. However, due to all that has been said above, I’m thinking that is unlikely which is a shame.

Disinformation1:15 pm 29 Aug 11

And I’ve been twice since for a damn good burger. Quite possibly the best I’ve ever had on both accounts. think it’s about time to go again actually. (I’m a cheap date)

Hasn’t moved yet.

So has the relocation happened yet?

Controversy sells. Mr Brod has embraced this and run with it.

There was first the issue of illegal parking of his big red money spinning van. Then there were talks of it being a money laundering front for organised crime. The cherry on top was the part owner Public Servant who was investigated for using undue influence.

It’s quirky, filled with controversy, next to the gorgeous lake and in trendy kingston and serves a damn good burger. What’s not to love?

Anyone catch WIN News last night? I flicked on in the middle of a piece on the Brodburger relocation to hear some numpty spouting off about how “a red caravan on the shore of the lake was not in Walter Burley Griffen’s plan for Canberra”.

Funny, that hasn’t ever stopped the NCA from developing any number of eyesores.

The constant cultural bleaching of Canberra to make way for artificial and regulated urbanity will prevent us from ever having a warm and vibrant city.

How bout lease a premises like everyone else ya free loader

I’ve never heard of it or seen the Brodburger caravan before until now.

Ahh Ralph’s at the BP!! I used to love that place!! Mmmmm chips and gravy

I miss the Doghouse.
The NCA wants Businesses to use those dead shells on the shore by the National Gallery, not exactly accessable.
I’ve always thought the red van against the green grass and blue water/fairy lights was charming.
The NCA have no asthetics.

Eyeball In A Quart Jar Of Snot9:29 pm 01 Jun 11

While the hype and the crowds that followed were nauseating, the burgers are that good. The best.

Brodburger was also one of the few Canberra restaurants to be included in the Age Good Food Guide for 2011.

That’s an achievement for any restaurant, let alone a burger van on the lake.

To be compared to Grill’d or any other cheap burger van is laughable.

Grow up, if you don’t like the product, vote with your wallet.

as others have said, i too have voted with my wallet – but how dare you come on the riot act and rant at us to stop ranting. sheesh, the irony of that. have we had flame [grilled burger] of the week yet?

averagejoeaussie8:22 pm 01 Jun 11

These poor buggers are just copping the same bulls*** that “The Doghouse” copped in the early-mid 2000’s. The Doghouse was a Canberra favourite for over 30 years from the early 1970’s and spawned a number of others (Dolly’s, Ralph’s, Tampico Hut, Marty’s) and ran in a number of places in Civic until our fantastic local government couldn’t decide on a site for the van and Dave ended up relocating to Young, N.S.W. I have driven from Canberra to Young to get a Doghouse hotdog!!

Arielle said :

Actually, it’s an educated debate and expression of opinion, it’s not a rant, rant is what people do when they have nothing better than to complain that someone is succeeding in a small business and being lauded for it. ‘News time’ is supposed to be what? Is it limited to the majority rules on who decides what is most important for discussion? No, it should be both a celebration of what is good and information on current events, however perplexing they may be found. Perhaps you may find more success with the Department of Looking For Actual Topics Worthy of Complaint.

Well, time will only tell how good their business model is now that they have to fend for themselves in a cafe-style arrangement amongst potentially fussy eaters.

@ Arielle

Do these sentences sound like they constitute a “rant” or an “educated debate”?

1) You are perpetuating your own lack of ideals about free publicity

2) You hypocrites seem to be against popular opinion and are only looking for justification for your own wingy(sic) winy(sic) self satisfied anti-liberalism

3) You’re probably eagerly awaiting some sort of revolution so that you can squash the media and decide what’s important for the world

4) You probably think the Government is out to ‘get us all’

hmmm… you tell me

(ok, I’m a bit bored tonight)

Arielle said :

Actually, it’s an educated debate and expression of opinion, it’s not a rant, rant is what people do when they have nothing better than to complain that someone is succeeding in a small business and being lauded for it. ‘News time’ is supposed to be what? Is it limited to the majority rules on who decides what is most important for discussion? No, it should be both a celebration of what is good and information on current events, however perplexing they may be found. Perhaps you may find more success with the Department of Looking For Actual Topics Worthy of Complaint.

It wasn’t a complaint, it was an observation, and I challenge you to point out where anybody actually complained about this business having some success. Somebody expressing their view that they don’t see what all the fuss is about is vastly different from somebody being vindictive about anothers success. Wake up to yourself.

Mr Evil said :

I’m wondering what hours they will be able to operate, as I assume that they won’t be able to open at all hours of the night/morning anymore if they are within the Glassworks compound?

Exactly what I was going to say. I know a lot of people who cruise over for a late night munchies on a Friday night..

Holden Caulfield said :

Otherwise, we go to Grill’d at Belconnen which has a much greater range and the added bonus of the world’s best chips (oh and gluten free buns for Toby and Seb).

Also at Woden!

Actually, it’s an educated debate and expression of opinion, it’s not a rant, rant is what people do when they have nothing better than to complain that someone is succeeding in a small business and being lauded for it. ‘News time’ is supposed to be what? Is it limited to the majority rules on who decides what is most important for discussion? No, it should be both a celebration of what is good and information on current events, however perplexing they may be found. Perhaps you may find more success with the Department of Looking For Actual Topics Worthy of Complaint.

I’m wondering what hours they will be able to operate, as I assume that they won’t be able to open at all hours of the night/morning anymore if they are within the Glassworks compound?

herbie said :

I for one will be interested to see whether the hipsters-who-love-it-cos-it’s-a-red-caravan-and-somehow-that-makes-it-an-icon will actually make the effort to go to the Glassworks to get these mythically superior burgers…

+1

Arielle said :

It’s great to see that you are all discussing the van and the price of the burgers and your respective opinions on quality. I think it’s also great that you are perpetuating your own lack of ideals about free publicity, you hypocrites seem to be against popular opinion and are only looking for justification for your own wingy winy self satisfied anti-liberalism. You’re probably eagerly awaiting some sort of revolution so that you can squash the media and decide what’s important for the world. Give them kudos I say, they decide to put into the open market a product which is obviously liked by so many that it keeps them in business, and more so because the majority that provide them with ongoing business do so not because of any publicity – but because they have a demand for the product. To think that any of this is elevating a ‘humble hawker’ is naive in the same way that you probably think the Government is out to ‘get us all’. Grow up, if you don’t like the product, vote with your wallet.

Wow, what a rant! Anti-liberalism haha.. And yes I have voted with my wallet – went there once and won’t go again, and it seems that you are opposed to opinion, popular or not. But you’ve missed the point I think. Many people are perplexed by the amount of news time given to this story (this is the bit where you accuse us of contributing to the story and call us hypocrites, right?) It seems you are most offended at the proprietor being called a “humble hawker”. I’ll ask someone from the “Department of Coming up with Stupid Names that are Politically Correct” to help out with this.

I for one will be interested to see whether the hipsters-who-love-it-cos-it’s-a-red-caravan-and-somehow-that-makes-it-an-icon will actually make the effort to go to the Glassworks to get these mythically superior burgers…

Cool – I also want to start up a burger van and then have the Minister and her department find me an awesome place to put it.

mouthface said :

The ongoing saga of Canberra’s answer to Harry’s Café de Wheels continues, but I have never understood the appeal of this business, or its ability to make the headlines on a regular basis. Yes there are people out there who gush about their burgers, to the point of attributing all sorts of cures to ailments, the performance of miracles and their first multiple orgasm after having consumed them, but really, they are just burgers – and expensive, considering they are sold on the side of the road out of a rickety old food van. Maybe the point of all this kerfuffle isn’t really about the service or the miraculous qualities of the food, but about the fact that Canberrans – so eager to embrace something that just sprouted, like some giant red mushroom, on the side of the lake, rather than been planned to within an inch of its life, passed through an environmental impact study, and rubber stamped by at least 150 people on 25 separate committees – are elevating this humble hawker to great heights to protest the over-regulation of every aspect of their neat and tidy little existence in the nanny state. Well they just lost their fight, because the van will be no longer, and it will have been tucked away neatly in the well designed and no doubt sterile environment of a government run amenity. I’m sure the rent will go up substantially for the proprietors, which will finally justify the price of their product.

Perhaps a couple of Waaaaaaaaahhh-burgers to go with French Cries!

It’s great to see that you are all discussing the van and the price of the burgers and your respective opinions on quality. I think it’s also great that you are perpetuating your own lack of ideals about free publicity, you hypocrites seem to be against popular opinion and are only looking for justification for your own wingy winy self satisfied anti-liberalism. You’re probably eagerly awaiting some sort of revolution so that you can squash the media and decide what’s important for the world. Give them kudos I say, they decide to put into the open market a product which is obviously liked by so many that it keeps them in business, and more so because the majority that provide them with ongoing business do so not because of any publicity – but because they have a demand for the product. To think that any of this is elevating a ‘humble hawker’ is naive in the same way that you probably think the Government is out to ‘get us all’. Grow up, if you don’t like the product, vote with your wallet.

troll-sniffer12:55 pm 01 Jun 11

mouthface said :

The ongoing saga of Canberra’s answer to Harry’s Café de Wheels continues, but I have never understood the appeal of this business, or its ability to make the headlines on a regular basis. Yes there are people out there who gush about their burgers, to the point of attributing all sorts of cures to ailments, the performance of miracles and their first multiple orgasm after having consumed them, but really, they are just burgers – and expensive, considering they are sold on the side of the road out of a rickety old food van. Maybe the point of all this kerfuffle isn’t really about the service or the miraculous qualities of the food, but about the fact that Canberrans – so eager to embrace something that just sprouted, like some giant red mushroom, on the side of the lake, rather than been planned to within an inch of its life, passed through an environmental impact study, and rubber stamped by at least 150 people on 25 separate committees – are elevating this humble hawker to great heights to protest the over-regulation of every aspect of their neat and tidy little existence in the nanny state. Well they just lost their fight, because the van will be no longer, and it will have been tucked away neatly in the well designed and no doubt sterile environment of a government run amenity. I’m sure the rent will go up substantially for the proprietors, which will finally justify the price of their product.

+100 to the hundredieth

I tried a Brodburger once, and don’t understand what the fuss is about. They were ok, but not 12 bucks worth.

Does that make him a sellout?

Holden Caulfield12:00 pm 01 Jun 11

After growing tired of the stupidly long waiting times we’ve taken to making our own burgers at home, which taste pretty damn good.

Otherwise, we go to Grill’d at Belconnen which has a much greater range and the added bonus of the world’s best chips (oh and gluten free buns for Toby and Seb).

Might have to try a Brodburger again to see if we can regain the love.

The ongoing saga of Canberra’s answer to Harry’s Café de Wheels continues, but I have never understood the appeal of this business, or its ability to make the headlines on a regular basis. Yes there are people out there who gush about their burgers, to the point of attributing all sorts of cures to ailments, the performance of miracles and their first multiple orgasm after having consumed them, but really, they are just burgers – and expensive, considering they are sold on the side of the road out of a rickety old food van. Maybe the point of all this kerfuffle isn’t really about the service or the miraculous qualities of the food, but about the fact that Canberrans – so eager to embrace something that just sprouted, like some giant red mushroom, on the side of the lake, rather than been planned to within an inch of its life, passed through an environmental impact study, and rubber stamped by at least 150 people on 25 separate committees – are elevating this humble hawker to great heights to protest the over-regulation of every aspect of their neat and tidy little existence in the nanny state. Well they just lost their fight, because the van will be no longer, and it will have been tucked away neatly in the well designed and no doubt sterile environment of a government run amenity. I’m sure the rent will go up substantially for the proprietors, which will finally justify the price of their product.

Do they cater for gluten and yeast free? I also don’t eat mushrooms or asparagus. I drive past the van and I’m temped to stop and have a look, but I just don’t know if they cater for people with intolerances. And it’s not just people with odd sounding names…

cubicle01 said :

emd said :

I like beans on toast. Almost as much as lentil burgers on cous cous with a soy chai latte.

The key is fatty bacon, a little bit of fresh chilli and some worcestershire sauce.

oooh

emd said :

I like beans on toast. Almost as much as lentil burgers on cous cous with a soy chai latte.

The key is fatty bacon, a little bit of fresh chilli and some worcestershire sauce.

I like beans on toast. Almost as much as lentil burgers on cous cous with a soy chai latte.

I like the burgers, and I hope this is a good fit, but this just seems to be a victory for the obstinate who disregard the rules. NCA is certainly has its issues but it concerns me that there wasnt a forcible removal of the van.

I have a pop up camper trailer and a gas stove, anyone think there is a market for beans on toast at Reconciliation Place? 🙂

A burger joint at the Glassworks – that’ll go down a treat with the arty types!

“May I have a double-decaf soy latte, and a soy and lentil burger on a bed of cous cous, please.”

“Is your chicken and beef free-range and sourced from certified organic farmers?”

“My sons Edgar, Sebastian and Tobias have allergies to everything, do you have anything on the menu that they can eat?”

I give them six months before they go bust.

Apparently they are building a fantastic new park on the lakes edge in front of the glassworks. Only a 100m away or so. Check out Near map for a recent aerial shot of the precinct.

Google maps tells me that it’s 550m.

Beserk Keyboard Warrior9:06 am 01 Jun 11

Brodburger – the masters of garnering free advertising. Personally I’m kind’ve sick of hearing about it.

In the CT they said the van will be moved to the Glassworks for a short while.

Katy was telling us how good it was on the radio this morning but I have to disagree, it was so nice to be able to grab a burger & plonk yourself down in the park next to the lake. They have taken that away. They say its only 200m away but I suggest it will be further, time will tell.

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