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Gross mismanagement of Government Funds

Wrongpriorities2012 15 October 2012 86

Public art in canberra
How is it okay for the government to waste so much of our money on Public Art in Canberra?

The “scrap metal” on the Gungahlin drive cost us $750,000 !!!!

Imagine you had $750,000 …… what could you do with it? Surely you could do more than buy a scrap pile of metal? The government should be treating our money as their own and spend it wisely.

I hope the rest of the public pick this up off the signs on the Public Art today.

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[ED. photos sent in by Jess]


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CanberraMum 10:23 pm 16 Oct 12

I love art, (Must be left-wing party-hack) I love it in the right place, (must be right-wing party-hack) like the beautiful sandstone carving now on London Circuit, which makes me happy, or the great small art-pieces scattered in many of the local shops. Wellington, NZ does it really well, it makes the city feel more alive (must be a Greens party-hack). In contrast I am bitterly disappointed about the lovely “Great Brown Land’ ($240K) artwork which can’t be seen up above the hill-line of the Canberra Arboretum….so many other worthwhile places it could have gone…why did we need another sculpture garden there?
p.s – I love the new work at the front entrance to the Canberra Airport…

LSWCHP 7:34 pm 16 Oct 12

rosscoact said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

Girt_Hindrance said :

. After all, what did it cost us under the Liberals to returf and then paint green an entire football oval?

Does painting an oval green count as public art?

like the avatar there

I’m glad it’s not just me who noticed that. 🙂

gazket 5:18 pm 16 Oct 12

I think the roadside art is better value than $75,000 for 5 coffee machines and $45,000 to service them for 2 years. I would love to see what Federal Labor would have paid if they didn’t introduce spending cuts and budget “restraint”

Mysteryman 4:27 pm 16 Oct 12

MissChief said :

I don’t mind the right art in the right place but our acquisitions over the past few years have been put in completely inappropriate places. Art along the highways is an unnecessary distraction and often just serves to make its location look cluttered.

If they took the view of putting art where it was needed instead of just bunging it in any where, it might actually have some asthetically pleasing value.

Agreed.

housebound 3:52 pm 16 Oct 12

The problem is that the $750k disaster on the GDE was constructed within months of schools being closed with 5-days notice because the government could not afford even $250k for six more months to give children time to do Barr’s much-vaunted transition.

It’s hard to accept the claims of a government that cries poor on one hand then spends so much on a wreck of steel girders on the other.

Perhaps if they had launched the public art campaign at a time when they weren’t crying so very poor, people would be more accepting of the concept.

MissChief said :

I don’t mind the right art in the right place but our acquisitions over the past few years have been put in completely inappropriate places. Art along the highways is an unnecessary distraction and often just serves to make its location look cluttered.

If they took the view of putting art where it was needed instead of just bunging it in any where, it might actually have some asthetically pleasing value.

and you can’t afford to pay triple rates…*yawn*

Kayem 3:25 pm 16 Oct 12

LSWCHP said :

Kayem said :

HenryBG said :

Bcs said :

People didn’t “get” Blue Poles when it was purchased by the NGA in 1973, however it has become a loved icon of Australia’s cultural development.

People didn’t “get” the Emperor’s New Clothes, either.

Calling Pollock’s absurdly talentless daub a “loved icon” is going way too far – it’s a monumental piece of 1970’s tat, nothing more, and the arty-farty types are still in denial about their complete lack of taste and discernment over it.

“Blue Poles” was painted in 1952. It is generally considered to be one of Pollock’s most important works

I’m a guitarist, and I consider Blue Poles to be the visual equivalent of a Pantera song.

That is not a compliment.

Don’t know much about Pantera – next time I’m talking to a painter I’ll be sure to ask them what they think.

Henry82 2:30 pm 16 Oct 12

$10 says OP is the person who created these signs.

PROTIP: mark out letters in pencil/chalk before painting them. That way you won’t run out of space.

MissChief 1:25 pm 16 Oct 12

I don’t mind the right art in the right place but our acquisitions over the past few years have been put in completely inappropriate places. Art along the highways is an unnecessary distraction and often just serves to make its location look cluttered.

If they took the view of putting art where it was needed instead of just bunging it in any where, it might actually have some asthetically pleasing value.

astrojax 1:23 pm 16 Oct 12

something to consider: [from a 2004 ‘monograph’ article]

imagine, if you can, a world devoid of public art: no Statue of Liberty, no Eiffel Tower, no War Memorials. No murals, memorials, or monuments.

What would life be like without fireworks displays, puppet parades, sculpture parks, and visionary roadside folk art? These landmarks and special events enhance our experience of a place and our quality of life. They engender a sense of pride and community identity. They reach audiences outside museums, galleries, and theaters, and they add to the beauty of everyday life. They declare the worth of a place and a time in our shared culture.

How important is the design of our shared public realm? What is the value of a park or plaza, or of a free exchange in a welcoming environment? Public art projects offer us a way to participate in the planning, design, and creation of communal space. For this reason, many refer to public art as a democratic art form. And while democracy can be a messy process, public art is an integral part of the fabric of culture.

Public art does many things, most of which can be divided into four areas. It can:
. engage civic dialogue and community;
. attract attention and economic benefit;
. connect artists with communities; and
. enhance public appreciation of art.

poetix 1:10 pm 16 Oct 12

colourful sydney racing identity said :

rosscoact said :

like the avatar there

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rosscoact said :

like the avatar there

Cheers, after years of procrastinating I have finally stumped up the cash to join RA properly.

I recognised that there’s never been a more important time for independent media in Australia. With shrinking media diversity on the one hand and a transformation of media delivery on the other, there are fewer and fewer outlets publishing well researched analysis and independent-minded journalism like that found on The-RiotACT, and even fewer who allow one to engage in open debate.

I realised that the-RiotACT.com is able to do much of what it does due to the generous support of its readers. By choosing to become a paid subscriber, I am help to provide an independent forum for coverage of Canberra news, events and discussion on issues that are important to US.

By subscribing to the-RiotACT.com I can:

Contribute to ideas and discussions that challenge convention and make our community a better place;
Demonstrate my intellectual or comedic prowess to other contributors;
Build my social profile and reputation;
Make the news rather than just consuming it; And,
Be sexier than the person sitting next to me and the envy of my friends.

I would encourage you all to do like wise

(JB – do I get my second month free for this?)

DrKoresh 12:43 pm 16 Oct 12

HenryBG said :

cpp said :

I love art and I vote!

You’re also free to open your wallet when and where you choose. Get your hands off mine.

It is a fact that convincing more people to play sport has positive health outcomes, on balance.

It is inconceivable that a $750,000 pile of rusty bent girders is having any positive effect on anything. But I respect your freedom to buy such a thing, should you choose to buy it.

Well I don’t care about the health benefits of sport HenryBG, so maybe I should make you spend your own cash on sporting facilities so you can stop being a whiny, bitch-made hypocrite. Nevermind the many people who can’t play sport due to illness or disability, I suppose? It’s tough-titties to them, according to you, yeah?

DrKoresh 12:31 pm 16 Oct 12

brynarose said :

Just out of interest, does anyone know if there is any curatorial process in deciding which artworks are purchased by the ACT government? As in, who is deciding which works to buy? I’m all for public art, however I feel if there is going to be upwards of $750.000 spent on these artworks I would hope that the artworks are carefully considered for purposes of aesthetics and value by people actually involved and knowledgeable in the arts and not just bureaucrats.

I should probably research this more, but if anyone could point me in the right direction to finding out this information I’d really appreciate it.

I think you’ll find the vast majority of public servants in the A.C.T hold one kind of arts degree or another, it’s almost a pre-requisite.

rosscoact 12:21 pm 16 Oct 12

HenryBG, Art is an essential service, it broadens the mind, it is educational, that’s why they teach it in school.

You could perhaps try a little art yourself?

rosscoact 12:17 pm 16 Oct 12

colourful sydney racing identity said :

Girt_Hindrance said :

. After all, what did it cost us under the Liberals to returf and then paint green an entire football oval?

Does painting an oval green count as public art?

like the avatar there

NoImRight 11:53 am 16 Oct 12

Hyperbole FTW!

HenryBG 11:41 am 16 Oct 12

Thumper said :

rosscoact said :

Weatherman said :

The irony is that with these large amounts of money, it would be possible to build a large aesthetically pleasing castle or a public hedge maze that would be a tourist attraction and at least bring money into Canberra to cover the costs at the same time. I’m sure people flock from miles away to see our pride and joy, a stack of bent steel girders. I am an arts fan myself and even I find that some of Canberra’s public artworks are pretentious.

I’m now without speech. Yep, “a large aesthetically pleasing castle or a public hedge maze” that’s what we need to put us right up there in the tourist circuit

Come on, who doesn’t want an 11th century Norman castle and keep sitting on the edge of Lake Burley Griffin?

Would attract as many people as Floriade does.
Castle, hedge maze – many communities elsewhere in the world do this to their benefit.
A great idea.
Anybody been to Bath in Somerset? The adventure playground near the centre of town there is so good people regularly drive from many miles away to spend the day there. And not just old wrinklies on a daily budget of $7.50 like Floriade attracts, either – whole families turn up there with their wallets.

HenryBG 11:37 am 16 Oct 12

Tymefor said :

HenryBG said :

cpp said :

I love art and I vote!

You’re also free to open your wallet when and where you choose. Get your hands off mine.

Its not your wallet or mine. Its OUR wallet. I don’t have kids that use our education system, am healthy and don’t use any healthcare. I don’t own or drive a car. Nor do I play or use public sporting facilities. I have paid stamp duty on 2 properties and rates on both for 7 years. 10 years ago i even had to pay for my apprentice off the job training out of my own pocket because i couldn’t get my ACT user choice funding to go to the trainer I wanted. All that said I don’t mind our money being spent on things you find important and obviously use regularly. Just offer me the same respect for things that I find important and perceive real benefit from!!

Education is a vital service. Health is a vital service. Roads, policing, waste collection are all vital services.
Taxes are collected to provide these vital services.

The f%#$wits who run the ACT government are not content with providing vital services, they want to govern as an end in and of itself and part of their strategy is to swell government sa much as possible. They swell government by making non-accountable employment decisions (employing an army of consultants and contractors to do the work of permanent staff who are kept on the books despite not doing their jobs) and they create endless “directorates” “portfolios” and other initiatives and taskforces and committees to attend to completely non-essential and non-beneficial services we neither want nor need.
The vast amount of money spent on staff and objects to display as “public art” is a completely unconscionable waste of public money.
The money spent on “Human Rights Commissioner” isn’t just a waste of our money, but has also had the direct result of creating this country’s most expensive and least safe prison, leading to endlessly escalating costs to this community.

Sick to the back teeth of our town council trying to strut their silly ideas and ideologies on various stages where they do not belong, at our expense.

Girt_Hindrance said :

. After all, what did it cost us under the Liberals to returf and then paint green an entire football oval?

Does painting an oval green count as public art?

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