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Horrible ferret cruelty caught on video – good or bad thing?

Lilli 16 September 2008 123

[First filed: September 16, 2008 @ 09:13]

Did anyone else hear on Sunrise this morning about one/two* Canberran men who I believe are being prosecuted over a video found of them committing various acts of violence against two ferrets, some acts mentioned including sticking them with syringes and bashing them against walls.

At this point in time I can’t find an online news reference but I am still slightly in shock about which is more horrendous – the fact that the man/men committed these acts, or that they taped (and I presumed, uploaded) such disgusting things? What do you all think – is it better that people seem to be uploading videos of this vein (ie. bashings, cruelty) in an almost bid to want to be caught or not? I believe I’m of the opinion that stupid enough to commit the crime then stupid enough to get caught, but what makes these people think it’s a good idea to make footage like this publicly available, or in the first place, film it?!

*I apologise for the vague details but I just caught the story as I woke up and it got me thinking..

UPDATED: Thanks to MissB for pointing us to the RSPCA media release on this issue.

    The two pet ferrets named Trigger and Cooch were stabbed with syringes, locked in a freezer and smashed against walls. To make matters worse these acts were video taped.

    “Sadly only enough evidence exists to lay charges against two of the four alleged culprits, and I am pleading with the magistrate to hand out the harshest penalty possible.”

ANOTHER UPDATE: The ABC reports that Thomas Sorahan and Adriano Larobina, both 28, from Canberra, have been found guilty.

They will be sentenced next month but readers should take some satisfaction from the fact the men will forever have prospective employers and girlfriends googling their names, and finding this story.


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BerraBoy68 BerraBoy68 12:20 pm 06 Nov 08

GB said :

While I welcome eloquent and well thought out posts, I also find some of the contributions from people who struggle to communicate to be rather more useful than those from the literate bullies.

BerraBoy68 said :

RiotACT welcomes anybody as contributors including prostitutes, self confessed druggies and even (God help us) the illiterate.

What use is a “right of reply” that excludes excludes people just because they are prostitutes, druggies or illiterate?

Do I want ferret torturers running around unrestrained? No. But I do want some insight into how they might think, which arno has provided.

I never said prostitutes, druggies etc… weren’t welcome GB. In fact, I said they are welcome. I think recent posts on drug use and the prostitution industry are fascintating and those who participate in these activities have contributed to interesting discussion. Since when have the quotes on the banners refelected the truth, commonsence or unanimous views? Take my comment in that particular post as being lighthearted.

Granny Granny 12:05 pm 06 Nov 08

Arno was attempting to threaten and intimidate people with violence and make them to afraid to express an opinion or speak out about animal cruelty.

This goes a lot further than giving insight into how somebody thinks. He’s getting exactly what he deserves, the bully.

GB GB 11:46 am 06 Nov 08

While I welcome eloquent and well thought out posts, I also find some of the contributions from people who struggle to communicate to be rather more useful than those from the literate bullies.

BerraBoy68 said :

RiotACT welcomes anybody as contributors including prostitutes, self confessed druggies and even (God help us) the illiterate.

What use is a “right of reply” that excludes excludes people just because they are prostitutes, druggies or illiterate?

Do I want ferret torturers running around unrestrained? No. But I do want some insight into how they might think, which arno has provided.

Granny Granny 11:16 am 06 Nov 08

That is so exciting, Berraboy68!! I love my Riot pin!

: )

BerraBoy68 BerraBoy68 10:04 am 06 Nov 08

That should read ‘finally’, oh the irony….

BerraBoy68 BerraBoy68 10:03 am 06 Nov 08

JohnBoy, here’s my blatent attempt to get a quote on the RiotACT’s header:

“RiotACT welcomes anybody as contributors including prostitutes, self confessed druggies and even (God help us) the illiterate. That said, I for one am not sure we need ferret torturers or their friends in our ranks”.

And yes folks, (he says with some shame) I’m back to fulltime work this month after an illness and am finaly set to become a premium member!

Granny Granny 9:20 am 06 Nov 08

CHW said :

See: real people, grownup or otherwise, do not act on their every impulse.

That’s so true, CHW.

Sometimes I have a mad impulse to make written public death threats of copy-cat killings and beatings from violent movies, but I have always restrained myself until now because I was under the impression that it would be a pretty stupid thing to do.

Especially since johnboy has repeatedly emphasised how un-anonymous the internet really is.

But now I think, “Hell, if arno can avoid arrest then anybody can!”

*chortle snort*

CHW CHW 7:58 am 06 Nov 08

Wow!

Soooooo… nice, to see that even real estate agents have friends!

I may be wrong, loyal supporter of a convicted criminal real estate agent; but I am sure that intelligent people notice the real concern behind anyone (not just a real estate agent) torturing small animals to death: such behaviour is way, way outside being acceptable to real people. Real people being individuals who can tell the difference between violent computer games, fantasies inside their own heads, and actual reality.

In fact, I am fairly certain that those people who posted to express their own emotionally-charged wishes for violent retribution to be visited upon the ferret-torturers, are able to realise that acting on their words is sadly not possible.

See: real people, grownup or otherwise, do not act on their every impulse.

BerraBoy68 BerraBoy68 7:20 am 06 Nov 08

arno said :

approach me and see what happens..

Very, very tempting to call you on this just to show you how insignificant you really are. You have no idea of the backgrounds, or size or physical abilities of anybody on this site so the common sense thing would be to suck it up. One thing I can guarantee is that even the smallest, weakest and least trained person on this site is bigger than a ferret so you’re already out of your depth.

It’s this attitude that got you where you are.

Granny Granny 12:33 am 06 Nov 08

It’s fun so who cares?

*giggle*

ant ant 12:30 am 06 Nov 08

I’m sure we’re beign trolled. There’s no way these idiots would come here, courting disaster. Surely? (Even so full of Moselle they’re sloshing).

Granny Granny 12:16 am 06 Nov 08

If arno wants to see a gutless prick, he should take a look in the mirror or maybe take a leak.

ant ant 12:12 am 06 Nov 08

Someone’s had too much Moselle.

arno arno 12:03 am 06 Nov 08

why dont you pussies reveal your true identities and you will see what i do to lynch mobs…….. lynch mob my arse, if you people are anything like the calibre of deadshits that were at the courthouse, im sure you couldnt fight your way out of a wet paper bag. either way, approach me and see what happens.. i made a specific effort to wear my crocodile skin shoes to court just for you guys, im not sure if any of you noticed. next time i might wear my eagle skins and you can get a closer look while i am stomping on your heads… and dont think i dont know who a few of you gutless pricks are.. [NAME REDACTED], GHOST FACE.
oh.. and i ran over a frog yesterday morning, would you like to make a forum about that.? i think there are still some remains of the poor little guy on my tyre.

Thumper Thumper 10:18 am 27 Oct 08

That would be ‘sow’, not ‘sew’ 😉

Granny Granny 9:42 am 27 Oct 08

I had planned to go, but still no transport. I just want the owner to know that I am thinking of him today, and I hope that justice is served in some measure.

Thumper Thumper 9:19 am 27 Oct 08

this crime will haunt Tom and Arno forever. Simply browsing through allhomes and Facebook has made that abundantly clear.

Reap what you sew…

fox fox 9:10 am 27 Oct 08

The sentencing is today – October 27th – and I hope that both men who were found guilty are punished to the full extent of the law.

I understand what you are saying, and I can sympathise with the point you are trying to make. However if you have read all the comments on this story you can clearly see that there are at least two people commenting here who know at least one of the people involved (those accused, or the man who owned the ferrets).

I’ll answer your questions –
– No, I was not there to see exactly what happened, only those who participated in harming the ferrets (and recording it) were there
– “The video” was available for me to view, but I chose not to. As I mentioned several weeks ago when I first commented, I knew the ferrets personally and there was no way that I wanted to see them being maliciously tortured for what, in my opinion, was only for the sake of having fun
– I didn’t need to read the stories in the newspapers to find out what happened because I already knew – the owner of the ferrets called me within hours of him finding out what happened back in May
– I know Tom and Arno (the two men charged) and the owner of the ferret personally

I guess we can never really know the full story of what happened that night, but having known those charged and the owner of the ferrets for nearly three years now, I know that I’m not someone just jumping on the bandwagon. My opinions of all three people were formed long before any of this happened and were based on what I saw with my own eyes and heard with my own ears.

In no way can it be considered a good thing that the family members of either of the guys charged fall ill, and I sincerely hope that they recover quickly.

The punishment is better left to, and will be left to the judicial system, and they will hopefully be made an example of. The number of animal cruelty cases across Australia seems to be rising each month – can you really be so surprised that the ACT community is so shocked and upset that this has happened right here, in our own backyard?

PS: You’re exactly right Bungle – this crime will haunt Tom and Arno forever. Simply browsing through allhomes and Facebook has made that abundantly clear.

Bungle Bungle 12:23 am 19 Oct 08

Yes lookatyourself, animal cruelty is one of those things that gets most people riled up.

I’m sure all the threats of violence against the guilty are just people letting there anger out. Hopefully they will get a sentence fitting of the crime. But also these days, with the internet, their crime will be known by anyone googling their names for the rest of their lives.

lookatyourself lookatyourself 12:11 am 19 Oct 08

Bungle & Ant – What I was trying to get at but perhaps didn’t put correctly was everyone seems to think they know everything about the ordeal. Yes they were found guilty of the crime and rightly so from what I have read, but I don’t speculate on any of the facts surrounding the case as I was not there to witness it first hand like I’m sure the rest of us weren’t. Like I said one paper says they had clear pictures of their faces in the video but yet another one says that they didn’t, so which are we to believe? I don’t care about the circumstances- they were found guilty so all I care about is that they get what they deserve.

I said it before and I’ll say it again, I am not condoning what they done- I too find it sickening and disturbing. As for karma, yes Ant your right, unfortunately like you said it didn’t work for these poor ferrets but I believe it will happen for these 2 idiots and they will get what they deserve. Personally I hope it is not just a slap on the wrist and a good behaviour bond as so many people who torture animals seem to get. They deserve no less than a year in prison and even that in my opinion is not long enough.

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