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Limestone Taxi Crash

By Poltergeese - 12 August 2011 30

I witnessed a crash last night between a taxi and a red sedan on Limestone Ave at around 9.30.

Great to know that the cabs aren’t only ripping us off but are risking our lives as well.

That many times I’ve been rorted by those swindling b#stards and many more times I’ve thought to myself I’m bound to be in a crash and I bet they’d still charge me for it.

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Limestone Taxi Crash
Skyring 8:59 pm 13 Aug 11

FD10 said :

If you don’t like the pay, get another job.

There’s more to life and work than money. I’d rather be a cabbie on low pay than return to being a public service computer programmer.

However, there are those who drive for a living and the result of steady decline in earnings is that the more mature and experienced drivers, the sort who know the most efficient ways to get places, the sort who have mortgages and families, are getting out and doing other jobs, leaving the taxi trade to young immigrants, often students working part time.

Henry82 8:00 pm 13 Aug 11

Skyring said :

There’s no money in the taxi game any more. Not unless you are the government, the taxi company. Cabcharge…

well then taxi drivers must be pretty stupid to be working for substandard pay. imo if they couldn’t get drivers at all, then we would know how crap the pay really is.

Wily_Bear 6:45 pm 13 Aug 11

Skyring, I’m intrigued, if you are ‘almost’ in negative income after a sixty hour week, why do you do it? If what you claim is true, you might be better off spending a day or two washing windows at traffic lights each week. Alternatively, you are welcome to come and do some laboring around my place, and I’ll pay you moderately above a negative income for say, a 20 hour week.Win-win situation

screaming banshee 5:47 pm 13 Aug 11

Seeing as we have a few cabbies on here having a say, what do you guys think of the system they run in NZ?

Devil_n_Disquiz 5:37 pm 13 Aug 11

FD10 said :

Doesn’t take an ‘armchair expert’ to figure that out, although I’m going to guess that no one here will have a valid opinion unless they’re in the ‘(cab) driver’s seat’, so to speak.

Of course you can have an opinion. But it won’t be a valid opinion if you have no idea what you are talking about. Arguments based on ignorant assumptions are fruitless really.

There are none so blind as those who can’t see.

FD10 3:50 pm 13 Aug 11

If you don’t like the pay, get another job. If you don’t want to get another job, then stop complaining. Doesn’t take an ‘armchair expert’ to figure that out, although I’m going to guess that no one here will have a valid opinion unless they’re in the ‘(cab) driver’s seat’, so to speak.

Devil_n_Disquiz 3:21 pm 13 Aug 11

Didn’t know there were any govt agencies had any interest in whether sole traders/ business owners income was less than the minimum wage. Please point me to one. I’ll be there on Monday.

Another armchair expert.

Skyring 3:01 pm 13 Aug 11

Henry82 said :

If its below the minimum wage then government agencies would be all over it.

No such thing as a wage in the taxi industry, let alone a minimum one. Cabbies work as “bailees”, meaning self-employed with their own ABN, and we rent the cab from the owner, who takes half what’s on the meter. And has his own fees to pay the government, the taxi company, Cabcharge etc, not to mention the cost of gas, maintenance, insurance and depreciation.

There’s no money in the taxi game any more. Not unless you are the government, the taxi company. Cabcharge…

Skyring 2:50 pm 13 Aug 11

dvaey said :

You charge how much per kilometer, then how much per hour, then how much for the flagfall or other various fees you add, and you only claim to make $9 an hour? I caught a cab the other day (albeit in Melbourne) and for my 4 block journey, it cost nearly $10. Anyone who can charge what you guys charge, and yet still claim to be poor, really needs to look at your business model.

You need to learn how the taxi industry works, dvaey. Comments like the above just demonstrate, to anybody who knows what’s what, that you are speaking from ignorance.

Next time you’re out and about just take a look at taxis. You’ll see a lot of them waiting idle on ranks, or driving about with nobody in the passenger seat. That’s most of the time in fact – the cabbie is making no money at all. Sometimes I’ll look at the job screen and see it’s been an hour or two of running empty.

All cab charges are set by the government, and very roughly they work out to a flagfall of $4.70, $2.00 a kilometre, and a dollar a minute waiting (such as at traffic lights). So yeah, a four block cab ride will cost you about ten bucks. And that’s the sort of fare cabbies dream of – if we can string a lot of them together all day long.

But it doesn’t work out that way. A ten dollar fare (of which half is given to the cab owner for him to pay his own hefty expenses) and then back on the rank for another half hour or so. We’ve got to pay GST and income tax off the top, and there’s no such thing as paid holidays or sick leave in the taxi industry. No employer to add anything into super, neither.

Five years ago, I was making good money as a cabbie. Three years ago, barely breaking even. Nowadays, well, I could just about answer the census questions on work with 60+ hours per week and negative income. Almost.

And then I see the flip comments from people who have no idea. More taxi licences. Part time cabs. Total deregulation. Yeah. Any further moves in that direction and we’ll be getting more cabbies who haven’t a clue, can’t keep a clean cab, wear trackie dacks and wash once a week, rip off their passengers and steal work from other drivers.

Henry82 2:04 pm 13 Aug 11

I call BS on the “get paid less than everyone else” story. If its below the minimum wage then government agencies would be all over it. Plus, there are heaps of taxis around canberra, almost all owned by one company, and all running cabcharge – who take their huge cut. If it wasn’t financially viable to run taxi’s, then they wouldn’t do it.

No sympathy here.

Devil_n_Disquiz 1:26 pm 13 Aug 11

dvaey said :

Devil_n_Disquiz said :

Yes, you are absolutely right. I go out there everyday for $9 an hour average (less now because of the extra cabs put on recently) just to rip you off and risk your life.

You charge how much per kilometer, then how much per hour, then how much for the flagfall or other various fees you add, and you only claim to make $9 an hour? I caught a cab the other day (albeit in Melbourne) and for my 4 block journey, it cost nearly $10. Anyone who can charge what you guys charge, and yet still claim to be poor, really needs to look at your business model.

“I”, personally, don’t set the rates, fares, flagfalls etc. Your local govt does this. Its not my business model either. The govt made their own models based on a PWC investigation.

If you are interested in a slightly more elaborate answer have a gander at this.

http://devil-n-disquiz.livejournal.com/13019.html

But if you don’t believe me, you are quite welcome to get a cab yourself and show me how its done.

I’m always interested in how to improve the taxi industry, and my level of income. But armchair experts who profess to think its easy to make a buck in Canberra should back themselves and show us, obviously dumb, drivers how its done.

dvaey 9:27 am 13 Aug 11

Devil_n_Disquiz said :

Yes, you are absolutely right. I go out there everyday for $9 an hour average (less now because of the extra cabs put on recently) just to rip you off and risk your life.

You charge how much per kilometer, then how much per hour, then how much for the flagfall or other various fees you add, and you only claim to make $9 an hour? I caught a cab the other day (albeit in Melbourne) and for my 4 block journey, it cost nearly $10. Anyone who can charge what you guys charge, and yet still claim to be poor, really needs to look at your business model.

Skyring 3:02 am 13 Aug 11

Yeah, what’s the point? A taxi was in a crash? No details given but somehow implied the cabbie was to blame.

My experience is the reverse – cabbies do a lot more driving and are more likely to avoid or handle road situations safely.

And if a cabbie tries to rip you off, pull out your mobile phone, film the exchange and contact the cops with as many details as you can get. I would purely love to see the ones who do the wrong thing get hauled over the coals, and either suspended or reformed.

As a cabdriver, I’ve been in a few bingles: kangaroos, people not looking where they were going or running red lights. I NEVER charge the passenger. The ride stops, I whistle up another cab for my passengers and remain to deal with the cops and the towtruck.

Except for one of the kangaroo incidents. It wiped out my front bumper, my headlight alignment and itself, but the car was still drivable. I paused the meter while I assessed the damage – it was about two in the morning and my boozey passengers thought it was a great joke while I swore and stuffed my bumper into the boot – and then dropped them safely home before limping back to base. Six months later I picked up the same pair of drunks and they remembered me. Hey, you’re the cabbie who hit that kangaroo, Bwahahahahah!

Yeah, thanks guys!

peterepete 11:14 pm 12 Aug 11

I think this is a good example of how you see the world shaping how you see the world.

Devil_n_Disquiz 7:54 pm 12 Aug 11

Yes, you are absolutely right. I go out there everyday for $9 an hour average (less now because of the extra cabs put on recently) just to rip you off and risk your life. Haven’t been called a swindling bastard before though. But thanks, shall I wear the badge with honour ??

But anyway, I digress. What exactly was the point you were raising here ?? That a taxi had an accident ?? Big friggin deal. How many accidents are there on a daily basis in Canberra ? And you witnessed one of the rare ones that involved a taxi. Congratulations.

I think your name says it all. You are a goose.

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