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Police need a heart and are there any good doctors open on Good Friday?

By nyssa76 21 March 2008 69

We all know (well the older RA’s do) that I am not a fan of the police.

A victim of domestic violence (close to me) was asked “Are you happy now?” with the fact that her husband, who had assaulted her, was going to the watch house.

This woman was thrown around the room and has bruises on her chest and back as well as stiffness in her neck and shoulders.

“There are conflicting stories” – she was told. “He’ll sign an undertaking to stay away from you but we won’t remove him from the house. If he breaches the undertaking (by coming near you) he will be arrested.” (Children are in the house btw)

Hubby breaches it within 20-30 mins and throws a bottle at her to boot.

“You brought us out for this?” and “We’re not here to sort out your childish problems”.

Yes, ACT Policing at it’s finest.

Now, does anyone know of a good doctor that is open Good Friday to have her injuries recorded? It seems that only medical evidence can persuade the copper to take it seriously.

I expect flamage, but I don’t care. She needed help and was treated like crap. It’s unacceptable.

What’s Your opinion?


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TBA 12:28 pm 25 Mar 08

Without the facts on this incident I don’t think anyone can comment on the Police actions or the truthfulness of the story. Domestic Violence isn’t as simple as people think.

Well done, enough said.

realityskin 9:29 am 25 Mar 08

surely spike is too weedy to do too much damage !?

vandam 3:17 pm 24 Mar 08

In actual fact – DV offenders are held in custody until they face court ( either after the paperwork has been processed or the next morning).

And in most DV’s, the lead up is often the Police trying to arrange for the parties to seperate. No Violence = No offence, but if both parties don’t want to leave, then that leave’s Police with a problem in securing each other’s safety. Every DV incident is reported to DVCS with them attending the incident on most occasions.

Normally this whole process of negotiation with the parties takes about 1 hour at best and can be extremely frustrating for Police. Eventually and agreement is made and Police are happy to leave. Once they leave it is out of Police hands as to what both parties do. 30mins later they called back, obviously this time someone has to be arrested.

Further you will find that Police attend the same addresses numerous times, only to be dealing with the same problem week in week out. Police attempt to provide support to the victim, however they keep going back to their abbusive partner.

Conclusion:

There is absolutely no excuse for Domestic Violence, however 90% of the time both parties are to blame for the violence in the first place. If only people acknowledged they had problems and sought professional help before it getting out of hand.
Without the facts on this incident I don’t think anyone can comment on the Police actions or the truthfulness of the story. Domestic Violence isn’t as simple as people think.

I-filed 10:59 pm 23 Mar 08

Nyssa, do not stay in any sort of contact with this partner. If the police are unsympathetic, it probably means you are displaying the sort of symptoms that really frustrate the police – partners who stay with a violent ma, can’t listen to reason, and put themselves serially at risk.
Remove yourself to permanent safety, have a good look at whatever the issues are that prevent you from functioning well, work on addressing those, and leave your partner – permanently – to sort himself out. Do not expect a reunion down the track.
Most of all, try not to respond in an ashamed way. Get counselling, but don’t hang out with the sort of support group that perpetuates misery.

gladbag 9:42 pm 23 Mar 08

Nyssa76 – You need to get legal council and an AVO. There are two sets of loved ones you do not negotiate with, druggies and dv cases, they need to sort themselves out first (seriously long process). @thecman, I don’t know much about Nyssa76’s case, however, have heard previously that the advice is not to leave the house if possible, as the person left seems to be in an more positive position to take possession, however, should she or the kids be in danger, there are safe places she could phone and people will come and load herself and the children into a car and take her somewhere. As mentioned previously, legal council should be able to give her those numbers.

DJ 6:32 pm 23 Mar 08

Damnintellectuals – I am not discarding the DV issue at all, in fact I have very strong views relating to DV that are mirrored by many on this forum. Don’t forget that not all DV is the traditional husband beats wife scenario – I AM NOT SUGGESTION NYSSA76 FITS INTO THIS CATEGORY. We simply just don’t know and are speculating based on the poor account provided by Nyssa76.

I don’t fully believe the account provided and from how she portrays herself in this and other instances I think she needs help on several fronts. In short I believe that she has an ulterior motive behind her posting.

“Why shouldn’t a person voice a concern on RA”… isn’t this going before the Courts? Is this another case of finding somebody guilty before the trial based on one side of the incident? What do you think the Courts will ask her that I didn’t?

Jemmy – Why would a magistrate not grant access to medical records in this case? There is an allegation that physical injuries were inflicted and if a doctor examined the person this would corroborate to a certain extent their story. Even better, why would the victim not sign a release for the medical records to assist the investigation? Perhaps this is where the “conflicting stories” mentioned by Nyssa76 come up?

bigred 6:27 pm 23 Mar 08

I hope this story isn’t accurate because I thought the AFP had actually turned it around of late. Gee they were even booking cars parked illegally in disabled spots in Dickson the other night.

freddie281 6:13 pm 23 Mar 08

Thecman, you are spot on. I could not have worded your comments better.

thecman 12:01 pm 23 Mar 08

Nyssa’s story just isn’t realistic but it is consistent with her long-held, anti-Police attitudes. As a previous comment noted – it would not have mattered what the Police did or did not do they were always going to be wrong as far as Nyssa was concerned. I wonder how long the domestic violence situation has been developing in Nyssa’s life – my experience is that these things rarely (if ever) suddenly appear, inevitably there is a long period of emotional abuse leading up to a violent incident such as the one claimed by Nyssa. None of this excuses domestic violence assault of any kind, but surely we all bear the primary responsibility for our own safety and well being. Police cannot solve domestic problems that have taken months / years to develop except in the most immediate respect – by arresting offenders if there is sufficient evidence to do so and placing them before the Court.

Putting aside the ideological, anti or pro-Police aspects of the comments on this thread it appears to me, on the few ‘facts’ available that:

Police attended a DV incident at Nyssa’s place, warned both her and the partner that if they were called back someone would be locked up and probably told them both to stop behaving like children. I have absolutely no doubt Nyssa was advised repeatedly to take the kids and leave the house for the night. The partner would also have been advised to leave – the obvious aim being to get one of the warring parties away from the house to give the situation time to cool down. Both parties obviously ignored this advice. Police leave but then have to return when the DV situation blew up again. This time the partner is arrested – again the Police probably did make a comment to Nyssa along the lines of, “are you happy now”? Nyssa may have been assaulted but really, doesn’t she bear at least some responsibility for how this situation panned out? Still can’t see how any of this is the Police fault.

As far as the partner getting locked up and then returning several hours later – not the Police fault. In this country we rarely lock people up indefinitely for even the most serious of offences. Most likely the partner requested and received bail and therefore was released – hard to see how that was the cops fault. Nyssa deserves our sympathy and support as would any victim but let’s remember that in all likelihood her version of events is biased, coloured by her self-confessed dislike of Police and ignores her own role in becoming a victim in the first place.

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