2 December 2024

Supermarkets check out on customers at our expense

| Ian Bushnell
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Having fun? Sooo convenient. For the supermarket bottom line that is. Photo: Ian Bushnell.

We must be mugs. Not only are the big supermarkets making mega profits in a cost-of-living crisis, but they also keep outsourcing customer service to us.

Self-checkers are everywhere, bopping at us, talking to us, scraping our data and now even filming us.

Of course, they’re one reason why the virtual cash registers are ringing out across the share market, but the increasing loss of humans from the shopping equation is feeding stress levels and fanning consumer anger.

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A recent outing at Colesworths was marked by an absence of checkouts, and even the self-checking conveyor belt aisle was down, on a Saturday morning.

While many battle through the gauntlet of self-checkers with full trolleys, realistically, they are only good for a few items.

The systems even differ from chain to chain, leading to inevitable snafus as customers lose their way and have to flag staff to assist them.

This happens all the time.

A colleague recently had a scanning problem, and an attendant first watched a film of what had happened before fixing the issue. Isn’t that just a little too 1984?

A time and motion study might discover that if said staff member was on an actual checkout actually serving the customer it might just be a faster and less painful experience.

It would also be interesting to measure customers’ blood pressure as they negotiate the incessant beeping, AI-generated voices, and uncooperative scanners, all the while having to manage all manner of items and pack your own bags in a cramped space as humanity surges through with barely an acknowledgment.

The supermarkets are getting us to literally do the heavy lifting and charging us a fortune for the dubious pleasure.

For those few staff left at checkouts when they are operating, basic training seems to be optional.

How does one explain the nonsensical way some pack bags? Filling cooler bags up with non-perishables and vice versa. Putting cans on top of fruit or eggs. Or squeezing everything into a bag to the point that it can hardly be lifted.

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Even then, some human interaction and handing over the checkout responsibility after a shop is preferable to combating the beeping monsters.

The problem is that this option is increasingly not available as managers run down their staffing in favour of automatons.

We are also too willing, too rushed, too well trained or just too damn tired to start screaming, “I’m as mad as hell, and I’m not going to take it any more!” (Google it!)

That doesn’t mean the frustration and anger isn’t there. We just take it with us.

But what if the supermarkets started thinking about their customers’ needs again, spent more on service than misleading advertising campaigns and tossed out the tech?

One can dream. More likely, they will find new, more efficient ways for customers to do their work. For free.

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What is it with all these negative responses to self service check outs? I will ALWAYS use them in preference to manned check-outs, regardless of how many items I have in my trolley. And don’t get me started on the how they packed the bags before I insisted that I did not need that “service” and preferred to pack my own bags standing at the back of my car.

I have not forgotten the frequent occasions before the advent of self service checkouts when one was forced to wait in line – a long, long line, or the number of times I have actually left my full trolley and walke out of the store!

I can’t say that I have seen too many “juveniles” manning checkouts!

When they work… IF there’s barcode that will scan; and IF you don’t have to weigh something; and IF the machine doesn’t dislike your fingertip….

How true. I often had trouble using a self-checkout system — so often that I now simply refuse to use one. If there’s a normal aisle available I’ll use that instead. If not (quite often the case) I’ll wheel my trolley full of stuff through the ‘express’ lane, telling them — if they baulk — that there’s no other lane staffed. It hasn’t happened yet, but I’m quite prepared to argue the toss with the store manager or simply leave the trolley of stuff in the store and walk out….

Richard Hyland1:53 pm 26 Nov 24

A truly 1984 reflection of the checkout issues would have been to accept the checkout version of what happened, destroy any evidence to the contrary, and convince the customer that there had never been an issue to begin with (possibly whilst giving the a warm hug).

War is peace. Slavery is freedom. Prices are down down.

davidmaywald9:40 am 26 Nov 24

Why do we keep paying more and more (in high prices and excessive taxes) while continuing to get less and less, from both businesses and from government… We are funding a lot of jobs that deliver no additional quality of life for people across our community.

“a bad habit of closing some self checkouts” certainly happens a lot in one store near me. If it looks like I’ll miss my bus, I’ve been known to dump the groceries, and walk out. One particular grocery store in the Canberra Centre. Not a Colesworth.

It’s not just supermarkets. We used to get bins collected but now we have to separate rubbish as well – for no rates compensation.
Waiting times for any service such as utilities, phone, private health – are longer than ever.
Humans replaced wherever possible and no associated cost relief.
In many cases the humans are removed, services made worse and costs still increase.
And the companies doing this are making big $ during times its customers can barely make ends meet . Online, people fight amongst themselves where the haves chastise the have nots, telling them to ‘suck it up it’s no big deal’.
The class gap crisis only gains in momentum with no sign of abating.

Cry me a river. You have to do a basic rubbish sort at the source. Oh the injustice – don’t worry about the fact its actually far more efficient from a systems perspective for it to be done at that point.

GrumpyGrandpa8:56 am 26 Nov 24

G’day Tim N,
I used to work in a bank when ATM were first introduced. Technology in that industry has seen employee numbers plummet. The profitability of the banks is good Good for our Super funds, I guess.
The sorting of our bins really gets me grumpy 😠. You are right about the sorting, however, it’s the CDS that makes my blood boil. The recycling bin, where we used to put out “eligible” bottles and can still gets collected every fortnight but it’s has very little in it. The cost of “eligible” products increased at the time of implementation by 16 cents per item, and enabled us to collect a 10 cent refund, if we returned our items to a collection centre. (The remaining costs were to manage the scheme). So now, we’re still paying for an underutilised garbage recycling service and we are jumping in our cars and driving to a centre to collect our partial refund. Hardly environmentally logical in my opinion and we are paying more and getting less. 😠.

No one forces you to collect CDS bottles yourself and cash them in. Its just a fact now there is a price on not doing so – the Government is happy to pocket it if you can’t be bothered.

GrumpyGrandpa1:23 pm 27 Nov 24

JS9
Sure, no one is forcing me to claim back my partial refund. I know people who still throw their bottles & cans in the bin, because 10 cents per item isn’t a big deal to them.
My big bugbare is that the scheme is promoted as being good for the environment.
Getting in the car and driving to a collection centre us hardly environmentally sound, when we previously walked to our recycling bin.
Of course, there is the issue of litter reduction, but littering is an offence. In countries like Singapore, people don’t litter!
Maybe I’m a bit old school and just get a bit grumpy when governments charge me again, for a service I’m already paying for. Grrr.

HiddenDragon8:18 pm 25 Nov 24

“We are also too willing, too rushed, too well trained or just too damn tired to start screaming, “I’m as mad as hell, and I’m not going to take it any more!” (Google it!)”

To continue the cinematic theme, it’s a little known fact that HAL 9000 had a sister, also acronymically named, called CAREN (Condescending Aggravating Relentlessly Enraging Nagger) who took over the general store in a remote Colorado town and sent poor Jack “Here’s Johnny!” Torrance bananas by giving him margarita ingredients when all he wanted was margarine (CAREN had heard about Last Tango in Paris and didn’t want that sort of thing going on in her town).

CAREN now voices the self-serve checkout “please take your items” message – she’s the reason why all the axes are under strict lock and key at Region Media.

Something I wish I had have remembered to include in my first response is how the fake humanitarians’ excuse for replacing humans with machines is that many jobs are supposedly mundane and hated by those who do them.

The problem with this view however is that it uses the attitude of those who are least inspired and grateful in life as the yardstick, thereby effectively waging a war against wisdom, which, if it ever gets to the late stage we’re currently in, robs people who are diligent and of a good disposition of the possibility of wrestling with irrational dissatisfaction.

Put simply, in most cases, the human, if they’ll only take a moment to count their blessings, can be perfectly happy doing ‘mundane’ work, and yet the progressives/technocrats would deprive them of this chance to grow, promising people only perfect ease and comfort at every single turn, thereby keeping them at a elementary level of development.

This is both dehumanising and belittling, and that I’m right about this can be seen by the fruits it bears; namely, the increased overshadowing of humanity with machines, and the infantile attitude of humans today, literally having to introduce laws to protect hurt feelings.

Do not believe the anti-human technocrats. They only say that they’re for humanity but they aren’t.

As near as I can make out the “logic” to this, a stone knife is a machine. There’s been a lot of progress since that you’re apparently willing to throw out and call the result humanism.

I am fussy about the way my groceries are packed so I love the self-serve checkouts. I also like being able to check the prices at the time I swipe the product. I often pay with electronic gift cards and that is a bit messy doing that with a cashier involved – again I am happy to do that myself. I would be extremely disappointed if self-service terminals disappeared.

I can’t believe that people who don’t like self-serve, call for them to be banned. You do you and I’ll do me! (I don’t call for cashier-operated-checkouts to be removed because I don’t like them.)

Capital Retro2:56 pm 25 Nov 24

On another thread Ian, you would be derided as a Luddite.
What do you reckon, Seano?
Give him a big serve like you do to ignorant people like me.

Peter Curtis3:17 pm 25 Nov 24

Luddites didn’t smash machines they smashed the owners of the machines

Capital Retro4:05 pm 25 Nov 24

You are awarded moot point of the day, Peter.
Congratulations.

You seem upset Captial….you also don’t seem to be able to differentiate arguments/conversations nor understand what a strawman argument is.

Whilst I seemingly fill your every thought (I don’t think of you at all), I had not commented article and any critique of things I haven’t said would indeed be “ignorant”.

As for my general opinion on this issue, I support fast self-checkout for convenience and flow where it makes sense, but I also believe the supermarkets have gone too far, making it at times ridiculously hard to check out a trolley full of groceries. In cutting workers (which I also don’t support) they’ve taken away customer convenience and at times treated customers like criminals for making self-checkout mistakes and I have not noted any reduction in my grocery bills despite now doing the checkout work.

I’m sure you’ll have something “clever” to say in response.

Self check outs do have a significant advantage if one just has a few items and is in a hurry. Usually less queue delays. BUT there is a bad habit of closing some self checkouts thus tending to recreate queues. A certain major hardware store near where I live is a major offender. Often it has all self checkouts closed and no regular staffed ones open. Instead the return/enquiry counter, and sometimes the tool section exit, do all the checking out with great potential for longer waits.
Personally, I find I usually prefer, even for trolley loads, to use self checkouts.

Gregg Heldon1:31 pm 25 Nov 24

Only use the self serve checkouts if I have five items or less. Any more than that and it’s through a we serve you checkout.
Supermarket prices include wages for the staff. If you don’t want to pay the wages, lower prices.

These *are* the lower prices.

Honestly, it’s like no-one has lived through a period of inflation before.

Gregg Heldon8:42 am 26 Nov 24

Sarcasm? Or a gentle dig at people who don’t like self serve?
These are not the lower prices. This is a duopoly with prices matching and gouging and thie recent enquiry will do absolutely zero to change it.

Not a joke, fact is if there was gouging the company would be required by law to dividend their gouged profits to shareholders.
And not just by law, but by law of the share market.

Profits have remained steady at 2%, if you’re a commie you could argue they “should” take a loss, allow share market sharks to get in a frenzy and kill the company… For what reason?

Company as a blue chip investment has to do same rate of return, rain, hail, shine, plague, nuclear war, what *ever*.

Their margin has not varied, at all.
They’re just passing on the cost of doing business, and yes it sucks.
But inflation sucks, and that was billions – trillions across the world economy – of paper money getting pumped into the system to keep people comfy while sitting on their a$$ess.

The “oh no colesworth” is bs, it’s also a deflection from the actual causes of why we’re paying more, for everything.

I love the flexibility provided by the self checkout option. No problems for me and I’m 70! There are always other options available – but of course, sometimes there will be staffing or technical problems – real first world issues. Ian also managed to get a dig in at the Supermarket chains. Again Ian, there are other options. And how dare someone pack your groceries differently to how you would – that’s one of the reasons I mostly use self self. News must be short this week, perhaps you could focus on the defeat of the mis-information bill Ian, it might have hit you with this article

On the one hand, high standards are good and that applies to cashiering, too. On the other, a human future is better than a robotic one, and that means having to accept, at times, poor or just poorer quality service, convenience, etc.

Should the supermarkets get rid of self-service checkouts? Yes. Should they provide good customer service at the other checkouts? Yes. Do we need to have a level of acceptance if they don’t? Yes. That’s what I think the equation is, more or less.

Call me a fan of humanity.

And as for those who pretend to love humanity the same – using “people are too dignified to be a cashier etc, so let’s replace humanity altogether with robots” – notice the seductiveness of their lies in that 1. they’re a snob who always did and always will look down on cashiers and the like; 2. people operate at different capacities and some are quite suited to cashier work, which is fine; 3. humans are WAY better than machines.

Do not fall for the subtle, seductive lies. An inhuman future will be inhuman, of course.

Is there an issue in the world anywhere in your mind that isn’t the product of a giant conspiracy ?

I’d rather use self serve, so I don’t get ripped off by an accidental double swipe or the wrong price. I use an app to add up the prices as I go

The self-serve checkouts suit me because I’m typically not pushing a trolley, and I buy little enough to be able to pack my bag/s in a smart way. That said, if I Was carrying a large load in a trolley then a checkout with a person and conveyor belt is essential for a stress-free experience.

Shops should be required to have a reasonable number of checkouts always open with people to help.

First you complain that you have to pack your own bags, then you complain if someone packs them differently to the way you’d like it done – which do you want? Oh yes, you want people on minimum wage, in a boring job, to do the packing just the way you want it. You put the items on the belt – put them on in the order you want them packed if you’re unwilling to do it yourself.

Unemployment is already low. I would rather scan and pack my own groceries, and have people employed doing jobs of greater value to them and to society. Do you still expect the person at the petrol station to run out and put the nozzle in your car? Or have you learned to cope with that huge impost on your time and energy?

I suffer from self-check-out rage. Loathe them. I actively seek out check-outs that have people.

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