7 March 2014

The Arboretum - a housing estate?

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Apparently there are to be houses among the trees in the Arboretum? (I just caught a quote on ABC 7.30). The reporter said “among” the trees – did he mean “an estate next to” the Arboretum? Surely the Arboretum isn’t going to have houses actually within its treed area? If so, well, was that Jon Stanhope exceeding his PB on dodgy developer deals? Does anyone have the facts?

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Pork Hunt said :

dungfungus said :

It was reported in the Canberra time yesterday (Sunday of a long weekend is a great time to sneak in a story that is going to impact on ratepayers without their approval) that even more money is to be spent at the arboretum which is fast becoming a bottomless pit for some unelected people to waste money on.
The principal item on the agenda is a second access road (should have been in place from day one) and links into roads in adjoining residential suburbs under development.
Hmmm, I’m looking at the title of this thread again.
Also on the agenda are new walkways and bike paths, landscaping around the Margaret Whitlam Pavilion, rocky knolls, more options for cafes/food, canopy walks and a water feature for Central Valley”.
This is really tacky “theme park” sort of stuff.
But wait!!!!
No mention of more trees which is what an arboretum is supposed to be about.
This PPP (Personal Pet Project) is now rivalling the light rail as Canberra’s greatest folly.
The initiatives, including the proposed second entrance, will be subject to funding in the ACT Budget.
Read more: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/new-entrance-proposed-at-national-arboretum-canberra-to-ease-congestion-20141004-10q875.html#ixzz3FLVEhOpo

Dungers, I have a serious question. On this forum you constantly shoot down people and ideas regardless of the subject being discussed.
My question is: do you like anything? Just one thing will do, no source required. Thanks in advance.

When you have travelled the roads of life that I have travelled you learn what is right and what is wrong.
There are good ideas and bad ideas which sometimes lead to good and bad outcomes.
For example, in the latest comment I have made on this thread I specifically said the second arboretum entrance should have been put in when the project was initiated. I had mentioned this on earlier threads. That was a good idea which I liked so please tell me where I have “shot that one down”.
Likewise, I have not bagged anyone my comment and the only people I have mentioned are ratepayers who are the one group who are expected to underwrite these schemes without any say.
Finally, don’t always equate ideas and opinions that you don’t agree with as me being wrong.
If you look at all my posts you will find the aggregate is a case of “credit where credit is due”.

dungfungus said :

It was reported in the Canberra time yesterday (Sunday of a long weekend is a great time to sneak in a story that is going to impact on ratepayers without their approval) that even more money is to be spent at the arboretum which is fast becoming a bottomless pit for some unelected people to waste money on.
The principal item on the agenda is a second access road (should have been in place from day one) and links into roads in adjoining residential suburbs under development.
Hmmm, I’m looking at the title of this thread again.
Also on the agenda are new walkways and bike paths, landscaping around the Margaret Whitlam Pavilion, rocky knolls, more options for cafes/food, canopy walks and a water feature for Central Valley”.
This is really tacky “theme park” sort of stuff.
But wait!!!!
No mention of more trees which is what an arboretum is supposed to be about.
This PPP (Personal Pet Project) is now rivalling the light rail as Canberra’s greatest folly.
The initiatives, including the proposed second entrance, will be subject to funding in the ACT Budget.
Read more: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/new-entrance-proposed-at-national-arboretum-canberra-to-ease-congestion-20141004-10q875.html#ixzz3FLVEhOpo

Dungers, I have a serious question. On this forum you constantly shoot down people and ideas regardless of the subject being discussed.
My question is: do you like anything? Just one thing will do, no source required. Thanks in advance.

It was reported in the Canberra time yesterday (Sunday of a long weekend is a great time to sneak in a story that is going to impact on ratepayers without their approval) that even more money is to be spent at the arboretum which is fast becoming a bottomless pit for some unelected people to waste money on.
The principal item on the agenda is a second access road (should have been in place from day one) and links into roads in adjoining residential suburbs under development.
Hmmm, I’m looking at the title of this thread again.
Also on the agenda are new walkways and bike paths, landscaping around the Margaret Whitlam Pavilion, rocky knolls, more options for cafes/food, canopy walks and a water feature for Central Valley”.
This is really tacky “theme park” sort of stuff.
But wait!!!!
No mention of more trees which is what an arboretum is supposed to be about.
This PPP (Personal Pet Project) is now rivalling the light rail as Canberra’s greatest folly.
The initiatives, including the proposed second entrance, will be subject to funding in the ACT Budget.
Read more: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/new-entrance-proposed-at-national-arboretum-canberra-to-ease-congestion-20141004-10q875.html#ixzz3FLVEhOpo

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd11:44 am 17 Mar 14

Masquara said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Masquara said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Masquara said :

Queen_of_the_Bun said :

It’s not even a rumour. It is the OP’s self-confessed inability to comprehend a 10 minute news story.

Do unpark your witless head from between those buns for a seccy and take note that my OP is clear: I caught a few seconds of the item. OK? Now, feel free to put your head back.

BS

Your OP is clear, clear that you heard a 10 second bit then automatically jumped to conclusions and announced to all that *apparamtly there will be houses among the trees* then continued to conjecture then put the boot into Stanhope.

Every single part of the OP is posed as a question ( you know, the sentences with a “?”, that’s a “question mark”), ending with: “Does anyone have the facts?” That is the exact opposite of “jumping to conclusions”.

Putting a question mark after a jumping to conclusion( aparantly you do not understand the meaning of aparantly) does not excuse your cheap attacks on Stanhope at every chance.

Are you saying the claims made against Stanhope by rioters all over this forum, over years, followed by his hasty exit, have all been bunkum? There you go! Another question for you.

I have a brain of my own, soooo yes.

Now use your own thoughts and answer this, why do you have a kick at labor and greens at every chance, even making dumb threads like this one.

Great photo in the CT Gang Gang section today of White Cockatoos attacking a tennis court net.
Wait until the cockies descend on the arboretum and hook into the exotic trees.

Queen_of_the_Bun9:48 pm 16 Mar 14

It must be wonderful to be as shameless a troll as our beloved Masquara. No need for any facts, just increasingly witless insults as his/her claims unravel.

Masquara said :

Are you saying the claims made against Stanhope by rioters all over this forum, over years, followed by his hasty exit, have all been bunkum? There you go! Another question for you.

I value Stanhope about as much as Carnell, or Abbott, but if Masquara is against him, he must be a Saint.

Oh, and Zed wins on hasty exits.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Masquara said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Masquara said :

Queen_of_the_Bun said :

It’s not even a rumour. It is the OP’s self-confessed inability to comprehend a 10 minute news story.

Do unpark your witless head from between those buns for a seccy and take note that my OP is clear: I caught a few seconds of the item. OK? Now, feel free to put your head back.

BS

Your OP is clear, clear that you heard a 10 second bit then automatically jumped to conclusions and announced to all that *apparamtly there will be houses among the trees* then continued to conjecture then put the boot into Stanhope.

Every single part of the OP is posed as a question ( you know, the sentences with a “?”, that’s a “question mark”), ending with: “Does anyone have the facts?” That is the exact opposite of “jumping to conclusions”.

Putting a question mark after a jumping to conclusion( aparantly you do not understand the meaning of aparantly) does not excuse your cheap attacks on Stanhope at every chance.

Are you saying the claims made against Stanhope by rioters all over this forum, over years, followed by his hasty exit, have all been bunkum? There you go! Another question for you.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd8:34 am 16 Mar 14

Masquara said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Masquara said :

Queen_of_the_Bun said :

It’s not even a rumour. It is the OP’s self-confessed inability to comprehend a 10 minute news story.

Do unpark your witless head from between those buns for a seccy and take note that my OP is clear: I caught a few seconds of the item. OK? Now, feel free to put your head back.

BS

Your OP is clear, clear that you heard a 10 second bit then automatically jumped to conclusions and announced to all that *apparamtly there will be houses among the trees* then continued to conjecture then put the boot into Stanhope.

Every single part of the OP is posed as a question ( you know, the sentences with a “?”, that’s a “question mark”), ending with: “Does anyone have the facts?” That is the exact opposite of “jumping to conclusions”.

Putting a question mark after a jumping to conclusion( aparantly you do not understand the meaning of aparantly) does not excuse your cheap attacks on Stanhope at every chance.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Masquara said :

Queen_of_the_Bun said :

It’s not even a rumour. It is the OP’s self-confessed inability to comprehend a 10 minute news story.

Do unpark your witless head from between those buns for a seccy and take note that my OP is clear: I caught a few seconds of the item. OK? Now, feel free to put your head back.

BS

Your OP is clear, clear that you heard a 10 second bit then automatically jumped to conclusions and announced to all that *apparamtly there will be houses among the trees* then continued to conjecture then put the boot into Stanhope.

Every single part of the OP is posed as a question ( you know, the sentences with a “?”, that’s a “question mark”), ending with: “Does anyone have the facts?” That is the exact opposite of “jumping to conclusions”.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd7:41 am 15 Mar 14

Masquara said :

Queen_of_the_Bun said :

It’s not even a rumour. It is the OP’s self-confessed inability to comprehend a 10 minute news story.

Do unpark your witless head from between those buns for a seccy and take note that my OP is clear: I caught a few seconds of the item. OK? Now, feel free to put your head back.

BS

Your OP is clear, clear that you heard a 10 second bit then automatically jumped to conclusions and announced to all that *apparamtly there will be houses among the trees* then continued to conjecture then put the boot into Stanhope.

Then continuing, you prove you are only a actual tree lover when it comes to being a troll or if it allows you to slag off at a labor or green.

BTW that massive red box you apparamtly google mapped and reported has been chopped down for ages but no one has even sent a letter or knocked on the door.

Queen_of_the_Bun said :

It’s not even a rumour. It is the OP’s self-confessed inability to comprehend a 10 minute news story.

Do unpark your witless head from between those buns for a seccy and take note that my OP is clear: I caught a few seconds of the item. OK? Now, feel free to put your head back.

Queen_of_the_Bun9:21 pm 14 Mar 14

BimboGeek said :

Masquara said :

TAMSMediaRoom said :

There are no plans for housing at the Arboretum.

Do you mean to say “There will be no housing at the Arboretum”? You’ve left yourselves all the wriggle room you need to build housing in the Arboretum with “existing future plans” that statement.

You’re talking to a public servant, not a psychic. The current government can zone the area such that nobody’s allowed to live there and in a few years a new mob can come in and approve a microwave power plant and an arcology.

What can the TAMS media room possibly say to deny the rumour without making policy decisions for the deep dark future?

It’s not even a rumour. It is the OP’s self-confessed inability to comprehend a 10 minute news story.

Queen_of_the_Bun9:19 pm 14 Mar 14

Mordd said :

This article demonstrates everything that is wrong with the current comment policy imho.

I’m with you Mordd.

Masquara said :

dungfungus said :

Pork Hunt said :

dungfungus said :

Captain RAAF said :

The Arboretum should also be used to house a national cemetery, akin to Arlington National Cemetery in Washington DC. Where only veterans and thier spouse and citizens of significant renown can be buried. With the core of the countries historical archives all stored in Canberra, what better place is there for it so that people from all over can make the pilgrimage and research their family heritage and great Australians is the one city.

Any prizes for guessing who the first two “citizens of significant renown” are that would be buried there?

Hopefully two dead ones?

That would be optional for the two I was thinking of.

I’ll dig one of them for you! : )

Bring your shovel and join the queue.

dungfungus said :

Pork Hunt said :

dungfungus said :

Captain RAAF said :

The Arboretum should also be used to house a national cemetery, akin to Arlington National Cemetery in Washington DC. Where only veterans and thier spouse and citizens of significant renown can be buried. With the core of the countries historical archives all stored in Canberra, what better place is there for it so that people from all over can make the pilgrimage and research their family heritage and great Australians is the one city.

Any prizes for guessing who the first two “citizens of significant renown” are that would be buried there?

Hopefully two dead ones?

That would be optional for the two I was thinking of.

I’ll dig one of them for you! : )

Pork Hunt said :

dungfungus said :

Captain RAAF said :

The Arboretum should also be used to house a national cemetery, akin to Arlington National Cemetery in Washington DC. Where only veterans and thier spouse and citizens of significant renown can be buried. With the core of the countries historical archives all stored in Canberra, what better place is there for it so that people from all over can make the pilgrimage and research their family heritage and great Australians is the one city.

Any prizes for guessing who the first two “citizens of significant renown” are that would be buried there?

Hopefully two dead ones?

That would be optional for the two I was thinking of.

*grammar Nazis.

No apostrophe required.

This article demonstrates everything that is wrong with the current comment policy imho.

Captain RAAF5:59 am 13 Mar 14

dungfungus said :

Captain RAAF said :

The Arboretum should also be used to house a national cemetery, akin to Arlington National Cemetery in Washington DC. Where only veterans and thier spouse and citizens of significant renown can be buried. With the core of the countries historical archives all stored in Canberra, what better place is there for it so that people from all over can make the pilgrimage and research their family heritage and great Australians is the one city.

Any prizes for guessing who the first two “citizens of significant renown” are that would be buried there?

Theres going to be no shortage of people we’d love to see interred there but love them or hate them (and I hate most of them), they all form part of this country’s great history. Many will choose to be buried elsewhere, in home towns or near loved ones and it will take a while for it to catch on, especially in the early days where gravesites would be few, but death is quite trendy, everybody ends up giving it a crack and before long the place would become quite interesting.
It would also be a suitable place for memorials to disasters that affect the country and not just a localised region, say for example a tragedy like the loss of HMAS Voyager where the crew came from all over Australia and any aircraft crashes that occur (and one day it will happen). What about the occasional remains of lost military personnel that are found on some isolated field or jungle ravine, we could begin to do what the US did after WW2, and that is bring our dead home.

I know this place is full of arsehats and grammar nazi’s who have nothing better to do than complain but how about for once, people actually have some vision for this country and its future and look beyond the trivialities of what has made up the bulk of this topic and picture something that would be truly important, thought provoking, enduring and maybe, just maybe, might give this cold and sterile place the one thing it lacks, a soul.

Maybe then, people will want to visit Canberra, the place will have a certain reverence about it, a mystical quality that draws people in.

I’ve been to Arlington twice. It’s an amazing place and if it was closer, I’d go every day because behind every single piece of granite and marble is a fascinating story that encourages study, thought, reflection, hope, and promise because for so many people that are entombed or remembered there, these feelings were denied them so it is us, the living that must do it for them.

It will be a lot more than just a place to whack our dead PM’s and ministers, if only people would see beyond the petty arguments that fill their daily lives now and see that such a place may be just what this country needs to recover its identity, which is slowly fading away as we speak.

dungfungus said :

Captain RAAF said :

The Arboretum should also be used to house a national cemetery, akin to Arlington National Cemetery in Washington DC. Where only veterans and thier spouse and citizens of significant renown can be buried. With the core of the countries historical archives all stored in Canberra, what better place is there for it so that people from all over can make the pilgrimage and research their family heritage and great Australians is the one city.

Any prizes for guessing who the first two “citizens of significant renown” are that would be buried there?

Hopefully two dead ones?

Queen_of_the_Bun said :

Thank you Queen of the Bun for listening carefully all the way through for me – much appreciate your assistance. As my OP indicates, I wasn’t sure of what I had heard and was seeking the facts.

I’m here to help for posters who are incapable of listening all the way through.

Since you’re volunteering, I have heaps of errands for you around the inner south – as I tend to never get further south than Curtin. I’ll post you a list! : ) Hugs xxx

Queen_of_the_Bun said :

Masquara said :

Leo61 said :

http://www.actpla.act.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0015/33216/Molonglo_Valley_Staging_Plan.pdf

If that is accurate, then there looks to be wriggle room for quite a few houses within the Arboretum boundary. Maybe it’s an approximate plan?

Far east, you are unstoppable in your trollling. You got it wrong. How hard is it to admit that?

Like I said, awfully grateful for your help in listening to the tape for me. Now you’re running around and measuring the boundaries for me on the map! So nice of you! Thanks so much!

Queen_of_the_Bun11:08 pm 12 Mar 14

Masquara said :

Queen_of_the_Bun said :

Masquara said :

UCI_carpetbagger said :

Is this the program Masquara had in mind?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-08/john-mackay-reflects/5308062

Yes, thanks, exactly the one. Mackay was referring to “adjoining” not “in”. Mind you, his comments on his “crisis control” skills at ACTEW were interesting! “I couldn’t put a lid on it” …

Masquara said :

UCI_carpetbagger said :

Is this the program Masquara had in mind?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-08/john-mackay-reflects/5308062

Yes, thanks, exactly the one. Mackay was referring to “adjoining” not “in”. Mind you, his comments on his “crisis control” skills at ACTEW were interesting! “I couldn’t put a lid on it” …

So absolutely nothing to back up Masquara’s original post. Not even a half-caught grab that might suggest a housing development within the Arboretum. How surprising.

Thank you Queen of the Bun for listening carefully all the way through for me – much appreciate your assistance. As my OP indicates, I wasn’t sure of what I had heard and was seeking the facts.

I’m here to help for posters who are incapable of listening all the way through.

Queen_of_the_Bun11:01 pm 12 Mar 14

Masquara said :

Leo61 said :

http://www.actpla.act.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0015/33216/Molonglo_Valley_Staging_Plan.pdf

If that is accurate, then there looks to be wriggle room for quite a few houses within the Arboretum boundary. Maybe it’s an approximate plan?

Far east, you are unstoppable in your trollling. You got it wrong. How hard is it to admit that?

Captain RAAF said :

The Arboretum should also be used to house a national cemetery, akin to Arlington National Cemetery in Washington DC. Where only veterans and thier spouse and citizens of significant renown can be buried. With the core of the countries historical archives all stored in Canberra, what better place is there for it so that people from all over can make the pilgrimage and research their family heritage and great Australians is the one city.

Any prizes for guessing who the first two “citizens of significant renown” are that would be buried there?

Masquara said :

TAMSMediaRoom said :

There are no plans for housing at the Arboretum.

Do you mean to say “There will be no housing at the Arboretum”? You’ve left yourselves all the wriggle room you need to build housing in the Arboretum with “existing future plans” that statement.

You’re talking to a public servant, not a psychic. The current government can zone the area such that nobody’s allowed to live there and in a few years a new mob can come in and approve a microwave power plant and an arcology.

What can the TAMS media room possibly say to deny the rumour without making policy decisions for the deep dark future?

Captain RAAF2:40 pm 12 Mar 14

The Arboretum should also be used to house a national cemetery, akin to Arlington National Cemetery in Washington DC. Where only veterans and thier spouse and citizens of significant renown can be buried. With the core of the countries historical archives all stored in Canberra, what better place is there for it so that people from all over can make the pilgrimage and research their family heritage and great Australians is the one city.

lets hope in 10years Canberra had re-learned how to build a decent suburb. otherwise, imagine all that land covered in roofs with no land left for gardens.

Masquara said :

Leo61 said :

http://www.actpla.act.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0015/33216/Molonglo_Valley_Staging_Plan.pdf

If that is accurate, then there looks to be wriggle room for quite a few houses within the Arboretum boundary. Maybe it’s an approximate plan?

If you look at the Territory Plan some of the blocks of land are split between two uses. Whoever drew the staging plan seems to have used the block numbers and so where a block is split they have put it in both categories.

Leo61 said :

http://www.actpla.act.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0015/33216/Molonglo_Valley_Staging_Plan.pdf

If that is accurate, then there looks to be wriggle room for quite a few houses within the Arboretum boundary. Maybe it’s an approximate plan?

TAMSMediaRoom said :

There are no plans for housing at the Arboretum.

Do you mean to say “There will be no housing at the Arboretum”? You’ve left yourselves all the wriggle room you need to build housing in the Arboretum with “existing future plans” that statement.

TAMSMediaRoom said :

There are no plans for housing at the Arboretum.

Yeah, right.
And at one stage there were no plans for a light rail.

HiddenDragon12:02 pm 11 Mar 14

dungfungus said :

HiddenDragon said :

tommy said :

Supposedly there will be a hotel (“enviro hotel”)

Sounds plausible, and sensible – done well, it could make a useful contribution to the bottom line.

“useful contribution to the bottom line”?
I take it you have already seen the business plan then?
Bob Winnel (Village Building) is a director of The Brassey Hotel and The National Aboretum so he may be interested in building an “enviro hotel” (whatever that is).

I am not at all sure that creating an artfully arranged fuel-load for the next big fire was the best use of that space, or of the public funds which have been, and will continue to be, sunk into it – but the deed has been done, and if some offsetting revenue can be earned from it, why not. Yes, it’s a big “if” – and there’s always the chance that the fine Aussie tradition of privatising the profits and socialising the losses would be at play – hence the words “done well, it could” in my earlier comment.

TAMSMediaRoom9:53 am 11 Mar 14

There are no plans for housing at the Arboretum.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd9:38 am 11 Mar 14

Masquara said :

Az said :

Not sure how a Victorian-era concept for an expensive, sterile, highly flammable timber installation got off the ground in the 21st Century, but here we are. Pass the laudanum.

Gold. Or maybe they are going to hose it all down with fire retardant regularly?

Masky-baby, where did your love of trees go?

Az said :

Not sure how a Victorian-era concept for an expensive, sterile, highly flammable timber installation got off the ground in the 21st Century, but here we are. Pass the laudanum.

Gold. Or maybe they are going to hose it all down with fire retardant regularly?

Queen_of_the_Bun said :

Masquara said :

UCI_carpetbagger said :

Is this the program Masquara had in mind?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-08/john-mackay-reflects/5308062

Yes, thanks, exactly the one. Mackay was referring to “adjoining” not “in”. Mind you, his comments on his “crisis control” skills at ACTEW were interesting! “I couldn’t put a lid on it” …

Masquara said :

UCI_carpetbagger said :

Is this the program Masquara had in mind?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-08/john-mackay-reflects/5308062

Yes, thanks, exactly the one. Mackay was referring to “adjoining” not “in”. Mind you, his comments on his “crisis control” skills at ACTEW were interesting! “I couldn’t put a lid on it” …

So absolutely nothing to back up Masquara’s original post. Not even a half-caught grab that might suggest a housing development within the Arboretum. How surprising.

Thank you Queen of the Bun for listening carefully all the way through for me – much appreciate your assistance. As my OP indicates, I wasn’t sure of what I had heard and was seeking the facts.

Jazz said :

OPs get modded too. Just after the fact unless automod kicks in for certain words or phrases.

No fish 🙁 just a clam

Twas a good clam though. Thanks for showing it to us on the day.

HiddenDragon said :

tommy said :

Supposedly there will be a hotel (“enviro hotel”)

Sounds plausible, and sensible – done well, it could make a useful contribution to the bottom line.

“useful contribution to the bottom line”?
I take it you have already seen the business plan then?
Bob Winnel (Village Building) is a director of The Brassey Hotel and The National Aboretum so he may be interested in building an “enviro hotel” (whatever that is).

gazket said :

unfortunately you can’t believe anything the ABC reports anymore. After portraying two gay males as model parents for gay adoption they are now defending the pedophiles on 4 corners who were jailed for 30 and 40 years in the U.S. for molesting their adopted child as not being a bad persons just miss guided.

The ABC needs a stiff broom put through it and I’m ashamed my taxes are funding this sort of reporting

Thank God for the Daily Mail, who always tells it how it really is.

unfortunately you can’t believe anything the ABC reports anymore. After portraying two gay males as model parents for gay adoption they are now defending the pedophiles on 4 corners who were jailed for 30 and 40 years in the U.S. for molesting their adopted child as not being a bad persons just miss guided.

The ABC needs a stiff broom put through it and I’m ashamed my taxes are funding this sort of reporting

HiddenDragon11:11 am 10 Mar 14

tommy said :

Supposedly there will be a hotel (“enviro hotel”)

Sounds plausible, and sensible – done well, it could make a useful contribution to the bottom line.

Anyone have the latest cost figures for the Bavarian chocolate forest? We up to quarter of a billion yet?

Not sure how a Victorian-era concept for an expensive, sterile, highly flammable timber installation got off the ground in the 21st Century, but here we are. Pass the laudanum.

Queen_of_the_Bun10:02 pm 09 Mar 14

Masquara said :

UCI_carpetbagger said :

Is this the program Masquara had in mind?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-08/john-mackay-reflects/5308062

Yes, thanks, exactly the one. Mackay was referring to “adjoining” not “in”. Mind you, his comments on his “crisis control” skills at ACTEW were interesting! “I couldn’t put a lid on it” …

Masquara said :

UCI_carpetbagger said :

Is this the program Masquara had in mind?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-08/john-mackay-reflects/5308062

Yes, thanks, exactly the one. Mackay was referring to “adjoining” not “in”. Mind you, his comments on his “crisis control” skills at ACTEW were interesting! “I couldn’t put a lid on it” …

So absolutely nothing to back up Masquara’s original post. Not even a half-caught grab that might suggest a housing development within the Arboretum. How surprising.

UCI_carpetbagger said :

Is this the program Masquara had in mind?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-08/john-mackay-reflects/5308062

Yes, thanks, exactly the one. Mackay was referring to “adjoining” not “in”. Mind you, his comments on his “crisis control” skills at ACTEW were interesting! “I couldn’t put a lid on it” …

Queen_of_the_Bun4:23 pm 09 Mar 14

bundah said :

Masquara said :

Queen_of_the_Bun said :

Interesting moderation policy – the OP swears at me in the early hours of the morning and gets through moderation. I respond without swearing at a sober hour of the day and my comment is still awaiting moderation two hours later.

In the immortal words of Sarah Hanson-Young – diddums! Your post was actually very aggressive, wasn’t intended to achieve anything or answer the original question and enlighten Canberrans about what’s happening at the Arboretum, hence the response in kind.

I agree with Masquara on this one. Given that there was absolutely nothing wrong with the article she posted, and her question legitimate, there was no need for Queen of the Bun to get on her high horse.

Besides compared to some of the personal insults that aren’t modded this one was quite tame by comparison, my Queen….

I disagree that my initial comment warranted me being called an a**hat and being told to STFU. I find Masquara unnecessarily aggressive and offensive in most of his/her posts, but don’t think I have ever sworn at a fellow Rioter, even at 1am.

Queen_of_the_Bun4:14 pm 09 Mar 14

Masquara said :

I thought there was a large 7.30 audience on Riotact – the Friday edition, anyway. Looks as though no-one here saw the entire item. As I said, I caught the tail end, hence my request for information from anyone who knows. And I stand by my Stanhope reference – his dodgy behaviour is all over the record.

Who has made any comment about your Stanhope reference?

Masquara said :

I thought there was a large 7.30 audience on Riotact – the Friday edition, anyway. Looks as though no-one here saw the entire item. As I said, I caught the tail end, hence my request for information from anyone who knows. And I stand by my Stanhope reference – his dodgy behaviour is all over the record.

I watch the first story if I’m near a TV and that’s it these days. 7.30ACT ‘s production is abysmal these days. So many interesting things they could do too.

Queen_of_the_Bun said :

And can I just go onto posts where I am the OP and swear at other people, safe from moderation?

Probably. Depends on any longstanding aggro, excessive anonymity, identity changes and trolling record I guess.

I thought there was a large 7.30 audience on Riotact – the Friday edition, anyway. Looks as though no-one here saw the entire item. As I said, I caught the tail end, hence my request for information from anyone who knows. And I stand by my Stanhope reference – his dodgy behaviour is all over the record.

Queen_of_the_Bun3:29 pm 09 Mar 14

Jazz said :

OPs get modded too. Just after the fact unless automod kicks in for certain words or phrases.

No fish 🙁 just a clam

Shame about the fish. Also still confused about the time difference in posts appearing – eg my complaint about being moderated was posted in real time hours before my original posts. Otherwise I would not have complained about the moderating.

Masquara said :

Queen_of_the_Bun said :

Interesting moderation policy – the OP swears at me in the early hours of the morning and gets through moderation. I respond without swearing at a sober hour of the day and my comment is still awaiting moderation two hours later.

In the immortal words of Sarah Hanson-Young – diddums! Your post was actually very aggressive, wasn’t intended to achieve anything or answer the original question and enlighten Canberrans about what’s happening at the Arboretum, hence the response in kind.

I agree with Masquara on this one. Given that there was absolutely nothing wrong with the article she posted, and her question legitimate, there was no need for Queen of the Bun to get on her high horse.

Besides compared to some of the personal insults that aren’t modded this one was quite tame by comparison, my Queen….

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd12:48 pm 09 Mar 14

Masquara said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Masquara said :

Queen_of_the_Bun said :

Facts to back this up please Masquara – claiming to have “caught a quote on ABC 7.30” without any back up is plain and simple trolling.

Oh just shut the f up, a**-hat Queen of the Bun! I was ASKING for information and clearly stated that I had caught a moment on-air and didn’t have the full story. You’re doing the trolling.

Maskybaby, never missing a opportunity to take a unsubstantiated cheap shot at anything labor…

Actually I think there would be bipartisan developer madness anywhere in Canberra if the local council were to be let loose. If not tripartisan – Rattenbury doesn’t seem to have much cred on town planning outcomes.

Normally everything you think, it is wrong.

Queen_of_the_Bun12:44 pm 09 Mar 14

Masquara said :

Queen_of_the_Bun said :

Facts to back this up please Masquara – claiming to have “caught a quote on ABC 7.30” without any back up is plain and simple trolling.

Oh just shut the f up, a**-hat Queen of the Bun! I was ASKING for information and clearly stated that I had caught a moment on-air and didn’t have the full story. You’re doing the trolling.

Hope the Berocca has kicked in….must have been quite a night on the vino…..

Queen_of_the_Bun12:42 pm 09 Mar 14

Jazz said :

thats the advantage of being the OP. you on the other hand, had to wait til i got back from taking my son fishing

Hope you both caught fish – will my other comments actually get posted now? And can I just go onto posts where I am the OP and swear at other people, safe from moderation?

And will OPs just get away with saying “I think I heard last night that Tony Abbott shagged a goat – can anyone provide evidence for or against” and that’s okay for RA?

OPs get modded too. Just after the fact unless automod kicks in for certain words or phrases.

No fish 🙁 just a clam

Queen_of_the_Bun12:39 pm 09 Mar 14

Masquara said :

Queen_of_the_Bun said :

Interesting moderation policy – the OP swears at me in the early hours of the morning and gets through moderation. I respond without swearing at a sober hour of the day and my comment is still awaiting moderation two hours later.

In the immortal words of Sarah Hanson-Young – diddums! Your post was actually very aggressive, wasn’t intended to achieve anything or answer the original question and enlighten Canberrans about what’s happening at the Arboretum, hence the response in kind.

Has anyone been able to enlighten Canberrans about what may or may not be happening at the Arboretum based on your original post? No, because your post was simply aimed at scaring people about something that is not happening.

If you find being asked for facts to back up your posts aggressive, well, I’m so sorry that you find being asked to verify your claims offensive. Has anyone else on this thread told another poster to STFU or called them a rude name? No, because everyone else can back up their arguments without resorting to name calling.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Masquara said :

Queen_of_the_Bun said :

Facts to back this up please Masquara – claiming to have “caught a quote on ABC 7.30” without any back up is plain and simple trolling.

Oh just shut the f up, a**-hat Queen of the Bun! I was ASKING for information and clearly stated that I had caught a moment on-air and didn’t have the full story. You’re doing the trolling.

Maskybaby, never missing a opportunity to take a unsubstantiated cheap shot at anything labor…

Actually I think there would be bipartisan developer madness anywhere in Canberra if the local council were to be let loose. If not tripartisan – Rattenbury doesn’t seem to have much cred on town planning outcomes.

Queen_of_the_Bun said :

Interesting moderation policy – the OP swears at me in the early hours of the morning and gets through moderation. I respond without swearing at a sober hour of the day and my comment is still awaiting moderation two hours later.

In the immortal words of Sarah Hanson-Young – diddums! Your post was actually very aggressive, wasn’t intended to achieve anything or answer the original question and enlighten Canberrans about what’s happening at the Arboretum, hence the response in kind.

Queen_of_the_Bun11:20 am 09 Mar 14

Interesting moderation policy – the OP swears at me in the early hours of the morning and gets through moderation. I respond without swearing at a sober hour of the day and my comment is still awaiting moderation two hours later.

thats the advantage of being the OP. you on the other hand, had to wait til i got back from taking my son fishing

Queen_of_the_Bun9:56 am 09 Mar 14

Queen_of_the_Bun said :

Masquara said :

Queen_of_the_Bun said :

Facts to back this up please Masquara – claiming to have “caught a quote on ABC 7.30” without any back up is plain and simple trolling.

Oh just shut the f up, a**-hat Queen of the Bun! I was ASKING for information and clearly stated that I had caught a moment on-air and didn’t have the full story. You’re doing the trolling.

Sorry, did I hit a nerve?

Maybe that’s because you know in your heart that you were not asking for information, you were putting a misleading statement out in the public domain and asking people to demolish it.

I wasn’t watching 7.30 on Friday night – but I think somehow that if there was such a great story around about a housing estate in the Arboretum, it would have been picked up by now by ABC 666 or the Canberra Times by now.

Thanks for the swearing though – that’s always the moment when a troll loses the argument.

One too many “by nows” I know. Must do better next time.

Queen_of_the_Bun9:55 am 09 Mar 14

Masquara said :

Queen_of_the_Bun said :

Facts to back this up please Masquara – claiming to have “caught a quote on ABC 7.30” without any back up is plain and simple trolling.

Oh just shut the f up, a**-hat Queen of the Bun! I was ASKING for information and clearly stated that I had caught a moment on-air and didn’t have the full story. You’re doing the trolling.

Sorry, did I hit a nerve?

Maybe that’s because you know in your heart that you were not asking for information, you were putting a misleading statement out in the public domain and asking people to demolish it.

I wasn’t watching 7.30 on Friday night – but I think somehow that if there was such a great story around about a housing estate in the Arboretum, it would have been picked up by now by ABC 666 or the Canberra Times by now.

Thanks for the swearing though – that’s always the moment when a troll loses the argument.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd8:14 am 09 Mar 14

Masquara said :

Queen_of_the_Bun said :

Facts to back this up please Masquara – claiming to have “caught a quote on ABC 7.30” without any back up is plain and simple trolling.

Oh just shut the f up, a**-hat Queen of the Bun! I was ASKING for information and clearly stated that I had caught a moment on-air and didn’t have the full story. You’re doing the trolling.

Maskybaby, never missing a opportunity to take a unsubstantiated cheap shot at anything labor…

Queen_of_the_Bun said :

Facts to back this up please Masquara – claiming to have “caught a quote on ABC 7.30” without any back up is plain and simple trolling.

Oh just shut the f up, a**-hat Queen of the Bun! I was ASKING for information and clearly stated that I had caught a moment on-air and didn’t have the full story. You’re doing the trolling.

tommy said :

Supposedly there will be a hotel (“enviro hotel”)

Yurts?

Imagine how many 400m2 blocks with big houses you could CRAM into the arboretum.

Queen_of_the_Bun2:06 pm 08 Mar 14

Facts to back this up please Masquara – claiming to have “caught a quote on ABC 7.30” without any back up is plain and simple trolling.

Supposedly there will be a hotel (“enviro hotel”)

I would imagine it is yet another example of quality ABC reporting and the reporter is confused about where Molonglo is located

Bird houses (nesting boxes) or possum houses perhaps?

If there’s a buck to be made, then I suspect the answer is “yes”.

dungfungus said :

I wish they would adopt that pointless Siev X “memorial” at Weston Park.
It would fit well.

Remarkable how Labor put up this memorial to the single asylum seeker sinking which happened under the Howard government, yet there have been no memorials to the many sinkings and drownings of queue-jumpers which happened under Gillard and Rudd.

Then again, we are well used to hypocrisy and duplicity by the Left and their sympathisers.

My guess is that these will be for the elite, deep thinking people in our midst who will meditate in them.
The arboretum is becoming less of an arboretum and more of a theme park every day.
I wish they would adopt that pointless Siev X “memorial” at Weston Park.
It would fit well.

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