The Klan suffers identity problems

Masquara said :

Has the Gungahlin Mosque put out any PR to underline that there will be no extremists preaching there? Given the “behead the infidels” travesty a few weeks ago in Sydney, it would be good to know for sure that our Muslim brethren here in this city are in fact moderates.

Nice to know that Masquara has now moved on from being the (failed) spokesman for Zed Instead, to apologist for the extremists. At least we know what his views are.

DrKoresh said :

You two sad, vile. little, hateful people should start your own party, campaign for the creation of a hateocracy. Honestly, expecting the average muslim to not only take responsibility, but also apologise, for the actions of a few hard-liners is disgraceful.

Now crawl out from under your bridges and try to justify your idiotic vitriol as something other than the blatant racism it is.

Exactly. These ignorant idiots are just as bad as the ignorant muslim idiots that spout their hatred of ‘the west’. I wish they’d all head off to an island somewhere so they can yell crap at each other while the rest of us live our lives in peace.

DrKoresh said :

HenryBG said :

Masquara said :

Has the Gungahlin Mosque put out any PR to underline that there will be no extremists preaching there? Given the “behead the infidels” travesty a few weeks ago in Sydney, it would be good to know for sure that our Muslim brethren here in this city are in fact moderates.

A simple press release stating that killing in the name of god is wrong, that the death sentence against Salman Rushdie was wrong, and that the violent demonstrations the other week were wrong.

Perhaps a statement of support for all the good work and sacrifices of our Aussie diggers as they protect Afghanis from the Taliban would be a sign they are an integrated part of this community?
It would go a long way to dispelling the general perception in the community that mosques here are as they are in the UK a breeding-ground for activities antithetical to national security.

Or how about a statement denying that women are like cat meat? That wouldn’t go astray, considering the severe problems the Islamic community has with accepting our values on the matter of equality of the sexes.

You two sad, vile. little, hateful people should start your own party, campaign for the creation of a hateocracy. Honestly, expecting the average muslim to not only take responsibility, but also apologise, for the actions of a few hard-liners is disgraceful.

Now crawl out from under your bridges and try to justify your idiotic vitriol as something other than the blatant racism it is.

Plus a lot.

Masquara said :

Has the Gungahlin Mosque put out any PR to underline that there will be no extremists preaching there? Given the “behead the infidels” travesty a few weeks ago in Sydney, it would be good to know for sure that our Muslim brethren here in this city are in fact moderates.

I’d like the same from all Catholic Church run and Owned places that they wont sexually abuse the children they come into contact with.
I want no preaching of intolerance to homosexuals, or anyone that doesn’t practice Catholicism.

Everyone should be under the same scrutiny.

It would be good to know that people are not sexually deranged bigots.

That press release shold also state that if any of the congregation are found to have participated in female genital mutilation, the perpetrators will be reported to the AFP.

HenryBG said :

Masquara said :

Has the Gungahlin Mosque put out any PR to underline that there will be no extremists preaching there? Given the “behead the infidels” travesty a few weeks ago in Sydney, it would be good to know for sure that our Muslim brethren here in this city are in fact moderates.

A simple press release stating that killing in the name of god is wrong, that the death sentence against Salman Rushdie was wrong, and that the violent demonstrations the other week were wrong.

Perhaps a statement of support for all the good work and sacrifices of our Aussie diggers as they protect Afghanis from the Taliban would be a sign they are an integrated part of this community?
It would go a long way to dispelling the general perception in the community that mosques here are as they are in the UK a breeding-ground for activities antithetical to national security.

Or how about a statement denying that women are like cat meat? That wouldn’t go astray, considering the severe problems the Islamic community has with accepting our values on the matter of equality of the sexes.

You two sad, vile. little, hateful people should start your own party, campaign for the creation of a hateocracy. Honestly, expecting the average muslim to not only take responsibility, but also apologise, for the actions of a few hard-liners is disgraceful.

Now crawl out from under your bridges and try to justify your idiotic vitriol as something other than the blatant racism it is.

The Muslims I know are pretty chilled out. I’m guessing the Concerned Citizens tend to see more of the rare redneck Muslims in their everyday redneck life.

Masquara said :

Has the Gungahlin Mosque put out any PR to underline that there will be no extremists preaching there? Given the “behead the infidels” travesty a few weeks ago in Sydney, it would be good to know for sure that our Muslim brethren here in this city are in fact moderates.

I’m guessing you don’t have any friends at all? Otherwise you’d have some idea of the values that are important in your Muslim friends…

Masquara said :

Has the Gungahlin Mosque put out any PR to underline that there will be no extremists preaching there? Given the “behead the infidels” travesty a few weeks ago in Sydney, it would be good to know for sure that our Muslim brethren here in this city are in fact moderates.

A simple press release stating that killing in the name of god is wrong, that the death sentence against Salman Rushdie was wrong, and that the violent demonstrations the other week were wrong.

Perhaps a statement of support for all the good work and sacrifices of our Aussie diggers as they protect Afghanis from the Taliban would be a sign they are an integrated part of this community?
It would go a long way to dispelling the general perception in the community that mosques here are as they are in the UK a breeding-ground for activities antithetical to national security.

Or how about a statement denying that women are like cat meat? That wouldn’t go astray, considering the severe problems the Islamic community has with accepting our values on the matter of equality of the sexes.

Has the Gungahlin Mosque put out any PR to underline that there will be no extremists preaching there? Given the “behead the infidels” travesty a few weeks ago in Sydney, it would be good to know for sure that our Muslim brethren here in this city are in fact moderates.

fernandof said :

there is (and should be) some flexibility here. I think it has to do with cases with extraordinary circumstances.

fernandof said :

There are procedures and regulations and I’m hoping every case is treated using the exact same rules.

There is a fair amount of flexibility in this as the issue is cover by case law developed by the courts from previous decisions and not by specific legislation passed by parliament. The judge is free to ignore the precedents set by previous judges but would have to have a good reason to do so as it would open up an avenue for appeal.

Still, they managed to bung Pauline Hanson in gaol

Is that anything like a jail?

fernandof said :

You cannot be biased towards an interested party no matter what’s the cause, nor the judges opinion on that interest.

Actually, I’m retracting this line – there is (and should be) some flexibility here. I think it has to do with cases with extraordinary circumstances. If I understand correctly, it’s about cases that were actively prevented from being processed, or cases that could not be realistically filed due to extremely short time-frames.

I’ll let our judges decide whether this one falls into that category.

fernandof said :

There are procedures and regulations and I’m hoping every case is treated using the exact same rules.

I still stand by this line. Even the decisions to treat a case in a special manner should be considered with the same guidelines for all cases, no matter what’s the cause.

johnboy said :

fernandof said :

Simply put, there’s nothing preventing this group refiling their case in accordance to the law and then I’m confident the judicial system will proceed on the case.

Except they’ll be outside the time limits.

Yes, and that’s why lawyers were put in this earth. I’m sure next time they won’t do the same mistake again.

Seriously though, if the alternative to this case is to treat these guys specially, then the whole system is pretty much broken. You cannot be biased towards an interested party no matter what’s the cause, nor the judges opinion on that interest. There are procedures and regulations and I’m hoping every case is treated using the exact same rules.

fernandof said :

Simply put, there’s nothing preventing this group refiling their case in accordance to the law and then I’m confident the judicial system will proceed on the case.

Except they’ll be outside the time limits.

HenryBG said :

RedDogInCan said :

housebound said :

Whatever the rights and wrong, it’s easy to argue – did they not just point out they were an unincorporated association that then became incorporated?

As far as the law is concerned there is no such thing as an unincorporated association – they are either an incorporated association or just a group of individuals..

I’d say this story is proof there is indeed such a thing as an unincorporated association.

Still, they managed to bung Pauline Hanson in gaol on entirely spurious charges, the courts will do almost anything that suits their political allegiances.

Imagine thinking they had the freedom in this country to criticise other people? Outrageous! Let’s use the machinery of justice and government to bully them into accepting what we tell them to believe.

Here’s another way to ensure equality: how about let the judicial system be unbiased treating all cases the same by enforcing all parties in all cases to follow the exact same procedures.

Simply put, there’s nothing preventing this group refiling their case in accordance to the law and then I’m confident the judicial system will proceed on the case.

HenryBG said :

RedDogInCan said :

housebound said :

Whatever the rights and wrong, it’s easy to argue – did they not just point out they were an unincorporated association that then became incorporated?

As far as the law is concerned there is no such thing as an unincorporated association – they are either an incorporated association or just a group of individuals..

I’d say this story is proof there is indeed such a thing as an unincorporated association.

Still, they managed to bung Pauline Hanson in gaol on entirely spurious charges, the courts will do almost anything that suits their political allegiances.

Imagine thinking they had the freedom in this country to criticise other people? Outrageous! Let’s use the machinery of justice and government to bully them into accepting what we tell them to believe.

*places tinfoil hat on*

HenryBG said :

RedDogInCan said :

housebound said :

Whatever the rights and wrong, it’s easy to argue – did they not just point out they were an unincorporated association that then became incorporated?

As far as the law is concerned there is no such thing as an unincorporated association – they are either an incorporated association or just a group of individuals..

I’d say this story is proof there is indeed such a thing as an unincorporated association.

Still, they managed to bung Pauline Hanson in gaol on entirely spurious charges, the courts will do almost anything that suits their political allegiances.

Imagine thinking they had the freedom in this country to criticise other people? Outrageous! Let’s use the machinery of justice and government to bully them into accepting what we tell them to believe.

Well dammit they took our jerbs!

RedDogInCan said :

housebound said :

Whatever the rights and wrong, it’s easy to argue – did they not just point out they were an unincorporated association that then became incorporated?

As far as the law is concerned there is no such thing as an unincorporated association – they are either an incorporated association or just a group of individuals..

I’d say this story is proof there is indeed such a thing as an unincorporated association.

Still, they managed to bung Pauline Hanson in gaol on entirely spurious charges, the courts will do almost anything that suits their political allegiances.

Imagine thinking they had the freedom in this country to criticise other people? Outrageous! Let’s use the machinery of justice and government to bully them into accepting what we tell them to believe.

housebound said :

Whatever the rights and wrong, it’s easy to argue – did they not just point out they were an unincorporated association that then became incorporated?

As far as the law is concerned there is no such thing as an unincorporated association – they are either an incorporated association or just a group of individuals..

lol

Whatever the rights and wrong, it’s easy to argue – did they not just point out they were an unincorporated association that then became incorporated?

Bahaha, out/stand/ing.

Fingers crossed Master Harper tosses that one out on its ear and orders costs