The Klan suffers identity problems

johnboy 9 November 2012 32

The Canberra Times has the amusing news that the disgraceful bigots of the Concerned Citizens of Canberra have suffered a bit of a legal setback due to not actually existing when they filed their inevitable court appeal to the Gungahlin Mosque.

Master David Harper this morning warned the case was at risk of being thrown out because it was first lodged in the name of a group which didn’t legally exist.

The papers were first filed on August 9 in the name of “Concerned Citizens of Canberra”.

But the group only became formally incorporated – becoming “Concerned Citizens of Canberra Inc” – four days later after lawyers for the ACT government pointed out they didn’t technically exist.

Master Harper said case law seemed to suggest the proceedings should be discontinued.

If they weren’t so vile they’d almost be funny.


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eyeLikeCarrots eyeLikeCarrots 10:22 am 12 Nov 12

You can’t ask moderate muslims to decry the actions of fanaticals.

Why….?

Because a muslim cannot walk away from his/her faith. The penalty for apostates is death, even a moderate muslim will tell you that Islamic juresprudence is clear on that.

Its not like you can just say… “You expect me to swallow the idea that Jesus rose from the dead….. and wasn’t a zombie?… and give up being a Christian.

Lets not even get started on Catholic dogma (lol chow down on jesus and sybolicaly drink his blood, no wonder kids are vampire obsessed).

For (and please excuse the blanket term) ‘Anglo Australians’ it just means you have more spare time on Sunday morning.

Masquara Masquara 8:36 pm 11 Nov 12

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

Misinterpreting my post as hatred (on the basis of my vote in the last election) is just sooooooo typical of trolls on this board.

Jesus, do you actually talk like that? Soooooo valley grrl?

I look forward to statements from all Canberra Lolxtian churches affirming that they’re against child abuse. Until then, you’re all potential kiddy fiddlers – each and every one of you, until I see a written statement on the public record that you’re not. I want Italian Catholics to also fill out a statement that they’re personally against jailing seismologists.

(Of course, then we get to play the Tea Party favourite, ‘Show Us The Birth Certificate’. You didn’t really think showing us the birth certificate – or decrying child abuse – would be enough, did you? If anything, I’m more suspicious.)

Woody Mann-Caruso Woody Mann-Caruso 5:57 pm 11 Nov 12

Misinterpreting my post as hatred (on the basis of my vote in the last election) is just sooooooo typical of trolls on this board.

Jesus, do you actually talk like that? Soooooo valley grrl?

I look forward to statements from all Canberra Lolxtian churches affirming that they’re against child abuse. Until then, you’re all potential kiddy fiddlers – each and every one of you, until I see a written statement on the public record that you’re not. I want Italian Catholics to also fill out a statement that they’re personally against jailing seismologists.

(Of course, then we get to play the Tea Party favourite, ‘Show Us The Birth Certificate’. You didn’t really think showing us the birth certificate – or decrying child abuse – would be enough, did you? If anything, I’m more suspicious.)

Masquara Masquara 9:18 am 11 Nov 12

Masquara said :

Has the Gungahlin Mosque put out any PR to underline that there will be no extremists preaching there? Given the “behead the infidels” travesty a few weeks ago in Sydney, it would be good to know for sure that our Muslim brethren here in this city are in fact moderates.

I’m genuinely curious…have you read the koran? Also what is your religion? I’d like to understand where you’re coming from.

Muslim extremists are not following the Koran (capital letter please). I happen to be in favour of the Gungahlin mosque – and the way to neutralise opposition to it is probably for its proponents to reassure the local public that the same extremist elements who are preaching hate in Sydney and Melbourne are not going to be tolerated here. Misinterpreting my post as hatred (on the basis of my vote in the last election) is just sooooooo typical of trolls on this board.

lostinbias lostinbias 12:43 am 11 Nov 12

HenryBG said :

TheDancingDjinn said :

Masquara said :

Has the Gungahlin Mosque put out any PR to underline that there will be no extremists preaching there? Given the “behead the infidels” travesty a few weeks ago in Sydney, it would be good to know for sure that our Muslim brethren here in this city are in fact moderates.

I’d like the same from all Catholic Church ….

I reserve the right to criticise and condemn in the strongest terms politico-religious philosphies which in my view fall well below the minimum standards our society expects and deserves.

If you think a religion that doesn’t advocate sexual misconduct is a bigger problem than a religion founded by dodgies that advocates the “skip slut” treatment for “cat meat”, then that’s fine with me – you’re perfectly entitled to be as wrong as all the other wishful thinkers who just aren’t getting the seriousness of what’s going on in the world between our supposedly freedom-loving culture and the other cultures that want to drag us back into the dark ages.

HenryBG, do you know any Muslims?

I have a number of acquaintences and a few close friends that are Muslim, and they’re not at all extremist. Like any other religion there are extremists and moderates. I feel like I’m stating the obvious here but it seems to be overlooked by some.

You don’t suppose that some Muslims aren’t out to destroy our evil decadent western society, and just want to live and work the same as you or I, while still following their faith?

Cantoangel Cantoangel 12:25 am 11 Nov 12

HenryBG said :

TheDancingDjinn said :

Masquara said :

Has the Gungahlin Mosque put out any PR to underline that there will be no extremists preaching there? Given the “behead the infidels” travesty a few weeks ago in Sydney, it would be good to know for sure that our Muslim brethren here in this city are in fact moderates.

I’d like the same from all Catholic Church ….

I reserve the right to criticise and condemn in the strongest terms politico-religious philosphies which in my view fall well below the minimum standards our society expects and deserves.

If you think a religion that doesn’t advocate sexual misconduct is a bigger problem than a religion founded by dodgies that advocates the “skip slut” treatment for “cat meat”, then that’s fine with me – you’re perfectly entitled to be as wrong as all the other wishful thinkers who just aren’t getting the seriousness of what’s going on in the world between our supposedly freedom-loving culture and the other cultures that want to drag us back into the dark ages.

I’m genuinely curious…have you read the koran? Also what is your religion? I’d like to understand where you’re coming from.

Woody Mann-Caruso Woody Mann-Caruso 10:40 pm 10 Nov 12

I reserve the right to criticise and condemn in the strongest terms politico-religious philosphies which in my view fall well below the minimum standards our society expects and deserves.

That’s great news! Which public school have you selected?

other cultures that want to drag us back into the dark ages.

This from the people who brought you the Spanish Inquisition.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 10:37 pm 10 Nov 12

HenryBG said :

TheDancingDjinn said :

Masquara said :

Has the Gungahlin Mosque put out any PR to underline that there will be no extremists preaching there? Given the “behead the infidels” travesty a few weeks ago in Sydney, it would be good to know for sure that our Muslim brethren here in this city are in fact moderates.

I’d like the same from all Catholic Church ….

I reserve the right to criticise and condemn in the strongest terms politico-religious philosphies which in my view fall well below the minimum standards our society expects and deserves.

If you think a religion that doesn’t advocate sexual misconduct is a bigger problem than a religion founded by dodgies that advocates the “skip slut” treatment for “cat meat”, then that’s fine with me – you’re perfectly entitled to be as wrong as all the other wishful thinkers who just aren’t getting the seriousness of what’s going on in the world between our supposedly freedom-loving culture and the other cultures that want to drag us back into the dark ages.

So are you saying boy rape is ok as long as done by catholic priests?

HenryBG HenryBG 9:58 pm 10 Nov 12

TheDancingDjinn said :

Masquara said :

Has the Gungahlin Mosque put out any PR to underline that there will be no extremists preaching there? Given the “behead the infidels” travesty a few weeks ago in Sydney, it would be good to know for sure that our Muslim brethren here in this city are in fact moderates.

I’d like the same from all Catholic Church ….

I reserve the right to criticise and condemn in the strongest terms politico-religious philosphies which in my view fall well below the minimum standards our society expects and deserves.

If you think a religion that doesn’t advocate sexual misconduct is a bigger problem than a religion founded by dodgies that advocates the “skip slut” treatment for “cat meat”, then that’s fine with me – you’re perfectly entitled to be as wrong as all the other wishful thinkers who just aren’t getting the seriousness of what’s going on in the world between our supposedly freedom-loving culture and the other cultures that want to drag us back into the dark ages.

54-11 54-11 9:35 pm 10 Nov 12

Deckard said :

DrKoresh said :

You two sad, vile. little, hateful people should start your own party, campaign for the creation of a hateocracy. Honestly, expecting the average muslim to not only take responsibility, but also apologise, for the actions of a few hard-liners is disgraceful.

Now crawl out from under your bridges and try to justify your idiotic vitriol as something other than the blatant racism it is.

Exactly. These ignorant idiots are just as bad as the ignorant muslim idiots that spout their hatred of ‘the west’. I wish they’d all head off to an island somewhere so they can yell crap at each other while the rest of us live our lives in peace.

Couldn’t agree more. Fundies, no matter what tag they use (Christian, whether Catholic or Proddy, Islam, Jewish, Hindu, et al) have no place within a civilised society.

It’s funny (strange) how the worst of them have evolved from the same Abrahamic origin, hence they are all in fact very similar. Yet hate each other with a passion (so to speak).

54-11 54-11 8:51 pm 10 Nov 12

Masquara said :

Has the Gungahlin Mosque put out any PR to underline that there will be no extremists preaching there? Given the “behead the infidels” travesty a few weeks ago in Sydney, it would be good to know for sure that our Muslim brethren here in this city are in fact moderates.

Nice to know that Masquara has now moved on from being the (failed) spokesman for Zed Instead, to apologist for the extremists. At least we know what his views are.

Deckard Deckard 8:41 pm 10 Nov 12

DrKoresh said :

You two sad, vile. little, hateful people should start your own party, campaign for the creation of a hateocracy. Honestly, expecting the average muslim to not only take responsibility, but also apologise, for the actions of a few hard-liners is disgraceful.

Now crawl out from under your bridges and try to justify your idiotic vitriol as something other than the blatant racism it is.

Exactly. These ignorant idiots are just as bad as the ignorant muslim idiots that spout their hatred of ‘the west’. I wish they’d all head off to an island somewhere so they can yell crap at each other while the rest of us live our lives in peace.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 6:45 pm 10 Nov 12

DrKoresh said :

HenryBG said :

Masquara said :

Has the Gungahlin Mosque put out any PR to underline that there will be no extremists preaching there? Given the “behead the infidels” travesty a few weeks ago in Sydney, it would be good to know for sure that our Muslim brethren here in this city are in fact moderates.

A simple press release stating that killing in the name of god is wrong, that the death sentence against Salman Rushdie was wrong, and that the violent demonstrations the other week were wrong.

Perhaps a statement of support for all the good work and sacrifices of our Aussie diggers as they protect Afghanis from the Taliban would be a sign they are an integrated part of this community?
It would go a long way to dispelling the general perception in the community that mosques here are as they are in the UK a breeding-ground for activities antithetical to national security.

Or how about a statement denying that women are like cat meat? That wouldn’t go astray, considering the severe problems the Islamic community has with accepting our values on the matter of equality of the sexes.

You two sad, vile. little, hateful people should start your own party, campaign for the creation of a hateocracy. Honestly, expecting the average muslim to not only take responsibility, but also apologise, for the actions of a few hard-liners is disgraceful.

Now crawl out from under your bridges and try to justify your idiotic vitriol as something other than the blatant racism it is.

Plus a lot.

TheDancingDjinn TheDancingDjinn 4:56 pm 10 Nov 12

Masquara said :

Has the Gungahlin Mosque put out any PR to underline that there will be no extremists preaching there? Given the “behead the infidels” travesty a few weeks ago in Sydney, it would be good to know for sure that our Muslim brethren here in this city are in fact moderates.

I’d like the same from all Catholic Church run and Owned places that they wont sexually abuse the children they come into contact with.
I want no preaching of intolerance to homosexuals, or anyone that doesn’t practice Catholicism.

Everyone should be under the same scrutiny.

It would be good to know that people are not sexually deranged bigots.

farnarkler farnarkler 3:58 pm 10 Nov 12

That press release shold also state that if any of the congregation are found to have participated in female genital mutilation, the perpetrators will be reported to the AFP.

DrKoresh DrKoresh 3:05 pm 10 Nov 12

HenryBG said :

Masquara said :

Has the Gungahlin Mosque put out any PR to underline that there will be no extremists preaching there? Given the “behead the infidels” travesty a few weeks ago in Sydney, it would be good to know for sure that our Muslim brethren here in this city are in fact moderates.

A simple press release stating that killing in the name of god is wrong, that the death sentence against Salman Rushdie was wrong, and that the violent demonstrations the other week were wrong.

Perhaps a statement of support for all the good work and sacrifices of our Aussie diggers as they protect Afghanis from the Taliban would be a sign they are an integrated part of this community?
It would go a long way to dispelling the general perception in the community that mosques here are as they are in the UK a breeding-ground for activities antithetical to national security.

Or how about a statement denying that women are like cat meat? That wouldn’t go astray, considering the severe problems the Islamic community has with accepting our values on the matter of equality of the sexes.

You two sad, vile. little, hateful people should start your own party, campaign for the creation of a hateocracy. Honestly, expecting the average muslim to not only take responsibility, but also apologise, for the actions of a few hard-liners is disgraceful.

Now crawl out from under your bridges and try to justify your idiotic vitriol as something other than the blatant racism it is.

BimboGeek BimboGeek 2:40 pm 10 Nov 12

The Muslims I know are pretty chilled out. I’m guessing the Concerned Citizens tend to see more of the rare redneck Muslims in their everyday redneck life.

Masquara said :

Has the Gungahlin Mosque put out any PR to underline that there will be no extremists preaching there? Given the “behead the infidels” travesty a few weeks ago in Sydney, it would be good to know for sure that our Muslim brethren here in this city are in fact moderates.

I’m guessing you don’t have any friends at all? Otherwise you’d have some idea of the values that are important in your Muslim friends…

HenryBG HenryBG 1:46 pm 10 Nov 12

Masquara said :

Has the Gungahlin Mosque put out any PR to underline that there will be no extremists preaching there? Given the “behead the infidels” travesty a few weeks ago in Sydney, it would be good to know for sure that our Muslim brethren here in this city are in fact moderates.

A simple press release stating that killing in the name of god is wrong, that the death sentence against Salman Rushdie was wrong, and that the violent demonstrations the other week were wrong.

Perhaps a statement of support for all the good work and sacrifices of our Aussie diggers as they protect Afghanis from the Taliban would be a sign they are an integrated part of this community?
It would go a long way to dispelling the general perception in the community that mosques here are as they are in the UK a breeding-ground for activities antithetical to national security.

Or how about a statement denying that women are like cat meat? That wouldn’t go astray, considering the severe problems the Islamic community has with accepting our values on the matter of equality of the sexes.

Masquara Masquara 1:10 pm 10 Nov 12

Has the Gungahlin Mosque put out any PR to underline that there will be no extremists preaching there? Given the “behead the infidels” travesty a few weeks ago in Sydney, it would be good to know for sure that our Muslim brethren here in this city are in fact moderates.

RedDogInCan RedDogInCan 12:50 pm 10 Nov 12

fernandof said :

there is (and should be) some flexibility here. I think it has to do with cases with extraordinary circumstances.

fernandof said :

There are procedures and regulations and I’m hoping every case is treated using the exact same rules.

There is a fair amount of flexibility in this as the issue is cover by case law developed by the courts from previous decisions and not by specific legislation passed by parliament. The judge is free to ignore the precedents set by previous judges but would have to have a good reason to do so as it would open up an avenue for appeal.

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