Updated Primary School Map

aidan 14 December 2006 33

The interactive map of ACT Primary Schools has been updated to reflect the final decisions of the Stanhope Government. In short, Mt Rogers, Giralang, Isabella Plains and Gilmore are now classified as remaining open.

The proposed P-10 school on the Kambah High site (due to open in 2011 apparently) has been added to the map. It is not clear why they have decided to build a P-10 school right next to Urambi Primary School.

The lack of coverage in Weston is now a reality.

Chifley is badly affected as well. If you look at the map it seems well covered, but sending a child across the Tuggeranong Parkway to Arawang (in Weston Creek) is not viable, nor is it desirable to navigate through Phillip to Mawson Primary. If the circles for both of these schools are turned off (by clicking on the blue dot representing the school) then it is only the circle from Lyons that covers Chifley at all. Lyons is going to become a P-2 school. If the Lyons circle is turned off, the result is the coverage for kids from year 3 to year 6, i.e. none. An amalgamation of Lyons and Melrose on the Melrose (Chifley) site would have resulted in a more equitable distribution of schools.

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33 Responses to Updated Primary School Map
nyssa76 nyssa76 11:30 pm 19 Dec 06

Thanks miz. I’ll just remember Mael’s comments the next time I have to take a class against medical advice because my work was too shite to organise relief.

Sad thing is, he is spot on about there being shite teachers.

miz miz 10:13 pm 19 Dec 06

Nyssa, hope you get better soon. I think you are a classic example of the kind of teacher who goes above and beyond. We can all remember a couple of those rare beasts from our own school days, and (for me anyway) they are life-changing, enriching and inspirational people. Chin up, and thanks for caring.

nyssa76 nyssa76 9:28 pm 19 Dec 06

Furthermore, due to an injury I’ve been off work. I’ve still maintained a daily lesson plan for all my classes, marked their assessment items and written reports – all with 1 hand.

I am not required to do so due to my injury but I did it because I wanted the students to receive feedback as well as their parents.

If I was one of those slack arses I wouldn’t give a shit at all and let someone else set my lessons, or write my reports or mark my assessment.

nyssa76 nyssa76 9:26 pm 19 Dec 06

Mael, I’d hate to break it to you but I’m not a negative or neutral teacher.

I’ve gone above and beyond my job description because I love to teach. Not sit on my arse and take a pay cheque.

I resent your labelling of me into that classification. Go walk into Calwell or Lanyon HS and see if you can make a positive impact. They’d smell the fake in your a mile away.

I brought up Narrabundah and Red Hill because the students at Narrabundah will “suffer”, be it academically, socially or emotionally.

Just because they have a large number of Koori kids, doesn’t mean that they are easily expendible.

However, seeing as I don’t give a shit about my students, or any student in the ACT, perhaps I shouldn’t send you a copy Mael.

seepi seepi 9:15 am 19 Dec 06

The barbershop example is different for heaps of reasons. Customers in a suburb do not fluctuate wildly due to the weather. And the nation as a whole can survivie easily without barbers.
REgardless of farmering practices I want to live in a nation that can produce its own food. It is also more sustainable to live on food from the local area. And within Australia we can enforce our choice of pesticide rules.

Maelinar Maelinar 9:07 am 19 Dec 06

On some levels I agree with Al. It is not the responsibility of any Government to hold anybodys hand, the flipside of the Australian social conscience is that everybody seems to expect it.

When the Charnwood barber’s shop closes down because of lack of customers due to poor business planning and market research, how is this any different to a farmer ‘doing it hard’ on the ground ?

Having worked alongside the industry for nearly 20 years now, I find it remarkable that the government will hand out money hand over foot, yet never ask the farmer to reduce their level of stock on their property – a great example of the boofheadedness of Federal politics, and a great example of an entire ecosystem completely dependant on welfare to exist.

The link between this and schools aught to be obvious. Aside from the agenda of the leftist feminist socialist teaching staff, look at the issue of school support.

A school will be successful if the community supports it. The above example of Narrabundah and Red Hill is a good case of extremism, but it will serve to point out that it is likely that the Red Hill PS will be supported by the community, and from fundraising and other methods of obtaining money, they will survive. They will also attract the kind of teaching staff that are positive, and geared towards this kind of positive education, thus reinforcing the community.

The same cannot be said for Narrabundah PS. Narrabundah is not a highly regarded suburb, nor does it have an esprit de suburba. They will have a harder time of it, whilst not an impossible task, definetly harder. I’m also afraid to say that it will attract the kind of teaching staff like Nyssa, the neutrals, and the negatives. Those teachers are there to do their job, be effective at it, and go home. Stripped of any social conscience or consequence, effective at teaching and mumbling about the inequity of it all.

I’d be interested in a copy of your thesis as well Nyssa..

nyssa76 nyssa76 12:22 am 19 Dec 06

Education at every level is handed out like candy

Would you rather the kids be working in factories again?

Education is free for all children regardless of their socio-economic background.

When Narrabundah PS and Red Hill PS merge, give it a year and then look back at the differences due to parental income and education levels.

Talk about taking a piece from different ends of the spectrum.

I’ll be following the effects of school closures closely – both positive and negative. I’ll send you my thesis when it’s done Big Al.

seepi seepi 9:06 am 17 Dec 06

I’m with you too Miz.
The tight labour market seems to have resulted in great jobs for young graduates, but it hasn’t given everyone a payrise.
And those who are struggling to get by in day to day life are exactly the ones who can’t spend all their time looking for a promotion, or gamble on moving to the private sector.

KambahAdvocate KambahAdvocate 1:21 am 17 Dec 06

Miz, thank you for your comments. Clearly Big Al has grown too big for his britches and thinks he knows what goes on in all households everywhere, even those who have to face difficulties that he has obviously never seen.

Not worth dignifying his ignorance with any further responses or explanations as he is clearly too unintelligent to take on new information or think objectively outside of his own sphere of existence.

We know what we mean; that is sufficient. 🙂

Big Al Big Al 11:35 pm 16 Dec 06

Miz are you serious! These people are choosing to be ‘disadvantaged’ by the way that they manage their lives and their finances. For those at the so called bottom of the socio-economic spectrum there are a myriad of handouts to support unwise life choices, including having more kids than you can possibly afford to look after. There’s no shame in renting – in fact many would argue that it’s an sound decision – if you invest the surplus between rent and mortgage appropriately … assuming you don’t fritter it away on smokes, grog, gambling and shitty Australian built cars. Education at every level is handed out like candy and the employment market is so tight right now that the crappy underpaid jobs are exclusively reserved for those that don’t know better or get a kick out of being exploited.

These people are essentially happy to be where they are or too stupid to do anything about it – either way its not the role of Government to try and dissuade them otherwise and decisions about managing the money we taxpayers invest in Government should pay no heed to the plight of those who refuse to help themselves.

miz miz 11:11 pm 16 Dec 06

Kambah High would not be closing if Stanhope et al gave a rats about social equity. It shows how far the mighty have fallen, that they can close this school and think their justifications are reasonable. KambahAdvocate my heart goes out to you.

miz miz 11:00 pm 16 Dec 06

Al, perhaps ‘disadvantaged’ is the right buzzword. I mean the people that probably live in an ordinary home in an ordinary suburb but within those walls are struggling to make the basics: they pay the rent, but then find it hard to get their kids school shoes, don’t get the school book pack on time or ever, would eg find it hard to find bus fare money to get their kids to school if they suddenly had to because their local one closed; perhaps they never go to the movies or hire DVDs or go out for a meal, let alone buy lunch at work or give their kids a lunch order; or don’t go anywhere at all (ringing in sick?) some days as there is no money for petrol or bus fare.

Not noticable to others unless you’ve been there. So, removing local facilities like a school or regular bus service (while justifying spending megabucks on gardens of babylon or al grassby statues), not only creates another layer of disadvantage for those already barely managing, but is despicable and heartless. PS This kind of disadvantage has nothing to do with intelligence.

nyssa76 nyssa76 9:59 pm 16 Dec 06

Actually no Mael.

Hubby is posted to Sydney and I’m thinking of Qld.

We’ve never moved from Canberra as he commutes from Sydney.

Maelinar Maelinar 6:42 pm 16 Dec 06

Seems more related to the defence posting cycle rather than an actual protest move Nys…

nyssa76 nyssa76 5:21 pm 16 Dec 06

Hence my current “plan” to move interstate.

Big Al Big Al 5:20 pm 16 Dec 06

Miz what the hell are ‘ordinary under-privileged people’? You seem to be suggesting that ‘privilege’ whatever that is, is a socio-economic thing which is crap – I’d suggest that people like that deserve to be ignored ‘in this town’. No one in this territory is forced to be poor and stupid – in fact I’d suggest that to attain such status you’d pretty well have to be deliberately trying. Furthermore, these brain-dead, piss poor dolts you speak of as the ‘ordinary under-privileged’ are probably just the kind of rancid little minority that the Standope government would crawl over broken glass to pander to.

miz miz 4:29 pm 16 Dec 06

Unfortunately, ordinary under-privileged people are scoffed at and ignored in this town. (They don’t exist, right, because the stats say how rich we all are – bollocks). But if you are some other kind of minority they pander to you big time.

They should get back to implementing (instead of undoing) what Canberra was intended to be – a well-planned social mix, not a blatant haves/have nots society. I’m so disgusted with the things happening here that I could spit. Social justice has been trampled on in so many decisions lately, and what’s worse is that the decision-makers are all self-congatulatory about it because all they see is financial transactions and economic units. TREES have more rights in this town than some less advantaged sectors of the community.

KambahAdvocate KambahAdvocate 2:02 pm 16 Dec 06

Thinly veiled behind Barr’s repetitive rhetoric, are a bunch of lies.

He lied when he said this new plan will address the drift to private education. It’s highly suspicious that Barr has chosen to close Mount Neighbour Primary, with its known degree of disadvantage, and yet leave open the pre-school,which he knows has traditionally had a 90% private school flow-on. He was offered a viable alternative to arrest that drift. 13/12/06: He said “No!”

He lied when he said he cared about disadvantaged families. It’s extremely suspicious that the last disadvantaged school in Kambah (Urambi) is now earmarked for closure in 2011, and the only public school not disadvantaged (Taylor) remains unthreatened.

How sad that he thinks we are stupid enough not to notice.

Kambah, the suburb with by far the highest number of people living in poverty, will see all disadvantaged students ultimately forced into a super-school (world-wide known to be the worst educational setting for disadvantaged kids), the one advantaged public school remaining untouched, and the private school aided in maintaining its enrolment figures because it now has its own pre-school right next door.

“Choice and Diversity?” “Social equity?” Huh?

Minister Barr, all the pretty marketing rhetoric you can spew forth will never veil the blatant truths – that your party clearly has a propensity to be influenced by the needs of the wealthy, that you are happy to ignore the needs of the disadvantaged, and that your oratory and the Social Plan are more of the same well-dressed lies that we are sadly getting used to hearing.

Sammy Sammy 4:53 pm 14 Dec 06

those preschools will be feeders

If you believe some, the new super schools will become feeders for the new prison.

bubzie bubzie 4:39 pm 14 Dec 06

about the whole urambi being next to the super school, i read somewhere that they’d have to close it in 2010, like what they’re having to do to some of the schools in west belconnen..

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