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Rioter Rik D sent us in this:
People get frustrated when cars do this, let alone a semi-trailer. I like how he indicates at the very end.
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not a semi but a truck and dog. You try to drive one. You should be aware of you’re surroundings and drive with care.
Um, what the truck did was fine. Why the hell are you intent on overtaking a long, large truck, going into a roundabout?
We need a vaccine for MGIF (Must Get In Front) syndrome, clearly…
DO NOT OVERTAKE TURNING VEHICLE! Enough said.
I know it’s all been said but, irrespective of whether the truck was legally allowed to straddle the lanes in and out of the roundabouts, Rik D was a complete tool for attempting to pass it on the first roundabout and again before the form one lane after the second roundabout. Rik D never had a chance of passing that truck given it’s speed and length and, unless the truck had needed to stop at either roundabout, to attempt to pass it was just plain stupid.
I find it amazing how little comprehension drivers have towards things such as maneuverability, buffer zones and stopping distances needed by even slightly larger than normal vehicles. It wouldn’t hurt for some drivers to spend a day in a big rig, as a passenger, as part of their L’s to better understand the risks.
tim_c said :
I don’t get it, how is anyone supposed to nail the racing line without “straddling lanes”?
Robertson said :
If the Police wanted to fine drivers for straddling lanes in roundabouts, they could start with the drivers in their cars who seem to require both lanes to negotiate roundabouts for which I know you only need one lane to get an oversized coach through…. and then there are these tight little roundabouts on major arterial roads – what makes you think the truck driver should be able keep his truck and trailer in one lane if most of the people in their little cars can’t (or aren’t expected to)?
dph said :
The road-rules are jam-packed full of references to the fact that trucks often need to straddle lanes to make a turn. Pissy little roundabouts that are too tight for articulated vehicles are a prime example for where this comes into play. There is no way a copper will even consider trying to book the driver of a large vehicle that straddles lanes through one of these tight little roundabouts we have here.
Robertson said :
Except that’s not a fact & you’re completely wrong.
Read the road rules.
dph said :
Trucks are under no obligation to use lanes through a roundabout. At what point will Canberra’s under-educated motorists start to comprehend this very basic fact of life.
BimboGeek said :
Probably to allow people going to the business park to do their left turn in without holding up the people going straight too much. I think the airport designed the road upgrades from the Pialligo intersection to the side of the business park.
tim_c said :
Probably because they’re driving too fast & couldn’t give a toss about other motorists like the truck driver in the video.
EvanJames said :
It depends on the roundabout – most drivers don’t seem able to get their car through those ridiculous little roundabouts in the video (near Brindabella Park) without using both lanes.
* Those large red and orange signs on the back of the truck – they’re there for a reason, and they say “DO NOT OVERTAKE TURNING VEHICLE”
* Additionally, at a FORM ONE LANE, the vehicle behind must give way to the vehicle in front – the front of the truck is clearly ahead of your vehicle.
* Finally, I’m really surprised that you expected a truck and trailer to use only one lane in those ridiculous little roundabouts near Brindabella Park – most people in their cars seem to need both lanes to negotiate those roundabouts.
TheBusDriver said :
Arghhh Rick rolled!!!
Grail said :
Ha, the only facts in that is that Volvo trucks have a collsion avoidance system and that truck was doing 60km/h before it activated.
There is absolutely nothing about the braking efficiency under load, fade, wet conditions, ABS application or stopping distanced as required by the ADRs apliccable to brakes.
Incidentally, there are three braking ADRs for cars, trucks (or heavy vehicles) and motorcycles because their inherant designs are completely different and they are expected to behave differently.
But when it all comes down to it, it doesnt matter how efficient the brakes are; they are still limited by the force of grip between the contact patch of the tyres and the road. This grip factor is always overrun by the kintetic energy of the mass of the vehicle.
Grail said :
To Grail, and Rik-D I have a better video for you. One which I think explains Rik-D’s intention with this whole thread;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Grail said :
Or not. Looks to me like Volvo trucks stop more effectively than their cars.
Grail said :
I like this video better. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6TRqjjnO58
It beats that unloaded Volvo.
So Rik-D what’s your number plate you brave hero?
Grail said :
I hope you don’t drive a car. That is the stupidest retort ever, for so many reasons.
Grail said :
Hahahaha yes indeed.