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What do we have to do ?

Maelinar 17 August 2008 43

I cannot believe some people.

I have witnessed this on a number of occasions recently on the roads, but the trend of biffing your half smoked ticket to lung cancer ouf of the car window is definetly back in fashion.

Is it because people think that its too cold for a fire to catch ?

Are people just getting lazy after a heitened sense of awareness post 2003 ?

Is it because I live in the new bogan capital of Canberra, Holt ?

What needs to be done to get the message through that every vehicle nowadays has a perfectly serviceable ashtray installed and it would be much more preferable if they used it instead of flicking their still alighted rubbish out the window ?


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minime2 11:59 pm 18 Aug 08

#12 Eyebalss…. I laughed and almost snotted out the nose when i read that line about “population litter” …. worth coming on the -ACT. And Charnwood-v-Holt … you know how to tell the difference between a teenage boy and girl from Charny? The girl has a higher sperm count. I wonder if this will get past Johngirl?

Mr Waffle 11:09 pm 18 Aug 08

I think some ACT government departments are trying to ban taking smoke breaks altogether in the public service, as of next year… not sure of the details though. Can’t stand the amount of cigarette butts lying around the smoking area at work that doubles as the only outdoor seating area…

As for smoking in your car, I saw a woman smoking in her newish Porsche 911 last week. Must be nice not to have to worry about resale!

Felix the Cat 9:18 pm 18 Aug 08

My workplace has a non-smoking policy where according to the printed regulation pinned on the noticeboard there is no-smoking required on the premises by employees yet next to the front door there is an industrial sized ashtray half full of butts (and dozens on the ground next to it dropped there by people too lazy/stupid/unco to get the but in the bin. Then there is the issue of all the productivity/time lost by the smokers and why non-smokers aren’t paid more because they do more work and have less sickies.

staria 7:08 pm 18 Aug 08

This comment comes up in preview as just, ‘We have a “smokers lane”…’

In the context of a discussion about smokers in cars, that gave me a double, nay, triple-take. I mean, I’ve heard of bicycle lanes, slow lanes and overtaking lanes. But a “smokers lane”?!

Haha! Just as long as you don’t triple take into a face full of sparks and ashes before crashing into some well placed road side art…

Back on topic (kinda) – I wonder if there’s statistics handy that show how much revenue the gov’t(s) rake in compared to the cost of smoking to the community in cleanup, health etc. If the revenue is higher, it might go some way towards explaining why tobacco is still legal.

RuffnReady 5:53 pm 18 Aug 08

Most smokers I know toss their butts on the ground wherever they are. Personally, just like any other littering, I find that offensive… it is simply laziness, and lack of respect for others/the environment we all share.

Also, cigarette butts are very toxic, full of carcinogens and heavy metals, and thus bad for animals and water quality.

Don’t do it!

peterh 4:59 pm 18 Aug 08

$500 to $1000 would be favorite. and if it does start a fire that burns down someone’s house, allowing that person to dish out counseling and guidance would be ok, too.

Jazz 4:04 pm 18 Aug 08

Isn’t a $200 fine for littering or if its still lit (the cigarette), a possible $500 fine for ‘dangerous’ litter. Can anyone confirm?

54-11 3:45 pm 18 Aug 08

As a biker, this habit shits me. The risk when a stream of sparks and a hot butt coming hurtling toward the helmet is extremely high. I run an open face helmet and although the sunnies/glasses protect the eyes, a faceful of hot ashes woulod not be fun.

Overheard 3:29 pm 18 Aug 08

staria said :

We have a “smokers lane” outside at work which is absolutely revolting – you can smell it a mile off and you see the same people out there multiple times per day. Then there’s the trail of cigarette butts from there to the car park… I know there are responsible smokers who do the right thing, but there’s enough smokers who aren’t that make me wish smoking was banned at working places as well as in the car.

This comment comes up in preview as just, ‘We have a “smokers lane”…’

In the context of a discussion about smokers in cars, that gave me a double, nay, triple-take. I mean, I’ve heard of bicycle lanes, slow lanes and overtaking lanes. But a “smokers lane”?!

jakez 3:18 pm 18 Aug 08

Idiot smokers that drop their butts everywhere or out the window frustrate the hell out of me. They make smokers look bad and give currency to anti freedom legislation.

Their littering is just as much a violation of property rights as the smoking bans.

How do you stop it though? Perhaps name and shame websites like the above. Try and lessen any existing and unnecessary impediments to fines. Perhaps smokers most of all need to let litterers know how unacceptable this is.

staria 3:09 pm 18 Aug 08

We have a “smokers lane” outside at work which is absolutely revolting – you can smell it a mile off and you see the same people out there multiple times per day. Then there’s the trail of cigarette butts from there to the car park… I know there are responsible smokers who do the right thing, but there’s enough smokers who aren’t that make me wish smoking was banned at working places as well as in the car.

Overheard 2:41 pm 18 Aug 08

I was never a chucker when I was a smoker, but several times I did the dumb thing where the filter tip would adhere to my bottom lip, I’d go to pull it from my mouth to exhale and get a couple of burnt fingers, and occasionally the lit cigarette would fall into my lap, resulting in a dangerous weave and swerve to the side of the road. And a pretty, holey pattern in the car seat cover.

Ugh! Glad those days are over, as of 3.10am, 11 December 1999. Not that I remember it distinctly or anything.

peterh 2:34 pm 18 Aug 08

saw this comment on rate the plate….

RATING HISTORY
Car – Sedan Thumbs down – Speeding – excessively Canberra – Fyshwick, ACT
CeeJ(903 silver star) wrote:

Incident occurred: Sat 16 Aug 2008 4:10 PM

Male driver of said Holden Commodore, racing other vehicles along Monaro Hwy, both times in form one lanes, at both Fyshwick & Hume, exceeding 100kmh in 80kmz each time, as well as ciggie out window into dry grass verge.

I didn’t include the plate, but seems that this guy is one of the chuck it out the window brigade.

oh, and one other reason I would never toss a ciggie out the window, is blow back.
(it ends up in the back seat, burning a hole in your seat / passenger)

and have seen one guy who must have forgotten his window was up. sparks, smoke and screaming. had to pull over, I was laughing too hard.

Overheard 2:33 pm 18 Aug 08

mdme workalot said :

Yes, I find it amazing – my health is seriously suffering, I feel like a leper having a cigarette in public, it costs me a bloody fortune and I smell like an ashtray. Yet I just can’t quit yet, and I don’t know why!

Even if you don’t necessarily want to give up tomorrow, you can ring the Quitline on 13 7848 and have a yap to them. They’ll have strategies and have possibly dealt with people with similar circumstances, blockers, motivations, etc.

peterh 2:24 pm 18 Aug 08

mdme workalot said :

Yes, I find it amazing – my health is seriously suffering, I feel like a leper having a cigarette in public, it costs me a bloody fortune and I smell like an ashtray. Yet I just can’t quit yet, and I don’t know why!

maybe, if it is so bad for us, tobacco should be classed as a drug, and made illegal. I would quit then.

Well rather than the incessant ACTEWAGL cum Labour Party political advertising that we are receiving at the moment about ‘securing’ our water for the future by arranging to purchase it from somebody elses dam – would it be more appropriate for an awareness raising campaign re smokebutts ?

mdme workalot 1:18 pm 18 Aug 08

Yes, I find it amazing – my health is seriously suffering, I feel like a leper having a cigarette in public, it costs me a bloody fortune and I smell like an ashtray. Yet I just can’t quit yet, and I don’t know why!

peterh 1:11 pm 18 Aug 08

mdme workalot said :

Happy with that VY 🙂

One other note – generally when you find piles of butts outside offices, it’s often only one or two people. I know at my work there is (or used to be) a pile of butts – but they were all from the same person.

I remember seeing a representation for a lifetime of smoking in a quit smoking seminar – it was an inground pool full of ciggie butts. should have made me quit, but not yet.

mdme workalot 9:28 am 18 Aug 08

Happy with that VY 🙂

One other note – generally when you find piles of butts outside offices, it’s often only one or two people. I know at my work there is (or used to be) a pile of butts – but they were all from the same person.

SamTSeppo 9:16 am 18 Aug 08

Is it because people think that its too cold for a fire to catch ? Are people just getting lazy after a heitened sense of awareness post 2003 ?

Indeed! Why, the hundreds of bushfires the SES has had to report to in the last week alone is testament to the effects these menaces have on our local ecosystem.

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