Why you can’t waste your vote.

johnboy 19 August 2013 32

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There are a lot of filthy liars polluting the internet right now with dire warnings of how not voting for the twin parties of bastardry will be a wasted vote.

YOU MUST VOTE FOR A LIZARD OR THE WRONG LIZARD WILL GET IN*

* Apologies to Douglas Adams

Thankfully Chicken Nation have produced a useful cartoon to explain how it actually works and why you might want to preference a non lizard before making your final lizard based decision at the end of your preferences.

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You only get one vote every three years. If you muff the ballot you can ask for another one. So take the damn time and don’t fret about “wasted” votes.


UPDATE: Meanwhile GetUp are explaining the Senate Game of Thrones style:


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Masquara Masquara 11:02 am 05 Sep 13

I hope AEC is paying these cartoonists, because they are doing the AEC’s job for them. Brillig!

johnboy johnboy 9:32 am 05 Sep 13

Well this page is going nuts on social media, hello to you all.

RadioVK RadioVK 1:41 pm 02 Sep 13

Stevian said :

poetix said :

RadioVK said :

Vote 1 Cthulhu, why settle for the lesser Evil.

Cthulhu is the Miskatonic for all our ills.

That one I like

Me too. Poetix, I bow to your greatness.

RadioVK RadioVK 1:40 pm 02 Sep 13

Stevian said :

RadioVK said :

Vote 1 Cthulhu, why settle for the lesser Evil.

Yawn, old joke, still not funny

True, but as long as the political parties keep on rolling out the same tired old jokes masquerading as policy, I reserve the right to do likewise.

Oh, and I think it’s funny, but I’m easily amused sometimes…

steveu steveu 1:24 pm 02 Sep 13

wildturkeycanoe said :

In the end,no matter how we vote in this country, the nation as a whole is pretty much divided between Labor and Liberal, with a few going Democrats/Greens etc. Once it’s all tallied up looking at historical figures, around 60% of primary votes are against whoever gets into power. So, in our democratic system we pretty much settle for 2/3 of the nation unhappy with the outcome. Is it because the promises and policies are so much the same that nothing really separates them from each other? Then in the Senate where true power is wielded, the winners are determined by the political parties, not the electorate.
Democracy – my A$$. I can vote as hard as I want for a minor party but in the end it’ll go to one of the major two.
I used to be blase about voting, but after looking into how it works [for the first time in my life seriously], I am even less excited about the power [or lack] of my vote.
I want Family First, but can’t vote for them. That’s not fair.

I gotta agree. And we knock the Americans as they dont have compulsory voting, “oh their president got elected by 30% of the population, who bothered to turn up to vote”. Hmm.

I guess its safe to say not many people are happy with two major parties. Yet one of them will get in regardless of how we vote it seems.

Stevian Stevian 12:54 pm 02 Sep 13

poetix said :

RadioVK said :

Vote 1 Cthulhu, why settle for the lesser Evil.

Cthulhu is the Miskatonic for all our ills.

That one I like

poetix poetix 11:37 am 02 Sep 13

RadioVK said :

Vote 1 Cthulhu, why settle for the lesser Evil.

Cthulhu is the Miskatonic for all our ills.

Stevian Stevian 10:33 am 02 Sep 13

RadioVK said :

Vote 1 Cthulhu, why settle for the lesser Evil.

Yawn, old joke, still not funny

RadioVK RadioVK 9:20 am 02 Sep 13

Vote 1 Cthulhu, why settle for the lesser Evil.

dixyland dixyland 7:53 am 02 Sep 13

Personally I think it is a wasted vote if you vote for the two major parties

Gungahlin Al Gungahlin Al 1:17 pm 20 Aug 13

watto23 said :

Gungahlin Al said :

Two pieces of recommended reading from Antony Green today:
On ACT Senate preferences and possible outcomes –
http://blogs.abc.net.au/antonygreen/2013/08/senate-preferences-act.html#more

On general information about voting –
http://blogs.abc.net.au/antonygreen/2013/08/answers-to-some-common-questions-on-senate-voting.html

Interesting article. Especially based on the fact that many labor voters have used their vote for a greens preference first. Honestly it probably would not be a chance, except for the Zed deposing of Humphries and the drama surrounding that.

I questioned just the statement that the Greens have never come close. My recollection of the last election was that the preference distribution was very close, and at one point ot looked like Darren Churchill’s (under the defunct banner of the Democrats) choice to preference Liberals over Greens may have cost the Greens the seat. But then the postal vote put Humphries just ahead without Dems votes. If it hadn’t been so close, I doubt it would be Zed standing this time…

watto23 watto23 12:17 pm 20 Aug 13

Gungahlin Al said :

Two pieces of recommended reading from Antony Green today:
On ACT Senate preferences and possible outcomes –
http://blogs.abc.net.au/antonygreen/2013/08/senate-preferences-act.html#more

On general information about voting –
http://blogs.abc.net.au/antonygreen/2013/08/answers-to-some-common-questions-on-senate-voting.html

Interesting article. Especially based on the fact that many labor voters have used their vote for a greens preference first. Honestly it probably would not be a chance, except for the Zed deposing of Humphries and the drama surrounding that.

watto23 watto23 12:10 pm 20 Aug 13

Darkfalz said :

Sadly, I haven’t voted in an election where my HOR vote made any difference. This isn’t west Sydney where 20% swings are possible. I’ll still have to walk past grubby little Andrew Leigh’s office every day on my way to work. Still, I’m almost certainly going to be a happy chappy on September 7th so I can’t complain too much. The only thing even mildly interesting will be the senate, hopefully we can Sheik-oil salesman proof the senate by ensuring this fraudulent, fainting Labor reject doesn’t get any more of a platform for his nonsense.

Well we’ll see, frankly most swinging voters are in the same situation as last time. Labor are not great, but have passed a few policies which i like. Liberal are relying on the fact they have been great at being an opposition, but haven’t exactly instilled any confidence in me either doing exactly the same thing they berated labor for ie not costing their NBN policy. Plus it all depends on your idea of wasteful spending. I consider their maternity leave a bit excessive and can we afford company tax cuts right now?

Neither party is going to have a great time the next 3 or so years IMO. Liberals will want a big enough buffer otherwise it may be a one term parliament, because i’m struggling to see how either party will fix anything right now.

Gungahlin Al Gungahlin Al 11:29 am 20 Aug 13

switch said :

ps Don’t forget to use with http://senate.io/senate/2013/act to get your vote the way YOU want it for Below the Line voting.

That is an outstandingly good tool!

Gungahlin Al Gungahlin Al 11:20 am 20 Aug 13

Two pieces of recommended reading from Antony Green today:
On ACT Senate preferences and possible outcomes –
http://blogs.abc.net.au/antonygreen/2013/08/senate-preferences-act.html#more

On general information about voting –
http://blogs.abc.net.au/antonygreen/2013/08/answers-to-some-common-questions-on-senate-voting.html

wildturkeycanoe wildturkeycanoe 10:57 am 20 Aug 13

In the end,no matter how we vote in this country, the nation as a whole is pretty much divided between Labor and Liberal, with a few going Democrats/Greens etc. Once it’s all tallied up looking at historical figures, around 60% of primary votes are against whoever gets into power. So, in our democratic system we pretty much settle for 2/3 of the nation unhappy with the outcome. Is it because the promises and policies are so much the same that nothing really separates them from each other? Then in the Senate where true power is wielded, the winners are determined by the political parties, not the electorate.
Democracy – my A$$. I can vote as hard as I want for a minor party but in the end it’ll go to one of the major two.
I used to be blase about voting, but after looking into how it works [for the first time in my life seriously], I am even less excited about the power [or lack] of my vote.
I want Family First, but can’t vote for them. That’s not fair.

Affirmative Action Man Affirmative Action Man 9:12 am 20 Aug 13

It is totally scandalous that in Federal Elections you are forced to vote preferentially in the lower house. For example if you clearly put a 1 next to Andrew Leigh but don’t tick the other boxes you vote is invalid despite the fact that you have clearly indicated who you want to vote for.

steveu steveu 8:43 am 20 Aug 13

If I recall the last ACT legislative assembly, there was about a dozen votes in it.

Look at the policies of each party, and make an informed decision. But dont blindly just vote, or vote for someone who doesnt represent you (eg. rudd/abbott).

We had a hung federal parliament. First time in 70 years. If this doesnt say something about how our votes count, nothing does.

wildturkeycanoe wildturkeycanoe 7:49 am 20 Aug 13

Okay, explain the Liberal Party wanting their second preferences going to Labor before the Greens? Does this mean everyone voting for the Libs is advised to change their second preference from Greens to Labor, or does that preference get changed by the party somehow? After checking the net for information, it looks as though the party makes this decision in Senate elections, so taking that choice away from voters [unless they want to number all the boxes below the line]. Stacked cards in my book and doing so in the area where all the power is too. With 13 different “parties” in Fraser for instance, how do you find out where each of the party’s preferences go? That’s a lot of research to do for every Joe under the sun, or a lot of work in filling out all those numbers when all you want is for one person to win, who cares about the rest. I have just read that QLD has different preferences by Labor because of a deal. Apart from reading the news about these first preferences, I cannot find out where the third, fourth and so on are directed. Even the party websites don’t help. Anyone else curious?

Darkfalz Darkfalz 5:19 am 20 Aug 13

Sadly, I haven’t voted in an election where my HOR vote made any difference. This isn’t west Sydney where 20% swings are possible. I’ll still have to walk past grubby little Andrew Leigh’s office every day on my way to work. Still, I’m almost certainly going to be a happy chappy on September 7th so I can’t complain too much. The only thing even mildly interesting will be the senate, hopefully we can Sheik-oil salesman proof the senate by ensuring this fraudulent, fainting Labor reject doesn’t get any more of a platform for his nonsense.

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