2 November 2023

Woden Valley Community Council president eyes struggling Weston Creek body

| Ian Bushnell
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Woden Valley Community Council president Fiona Carrick believes Woden and Weston Creek should work together. Photos: Ian Bushnell.

A merger of the Woden Valley and Weston Creek Community Councils has been floated as the Weston Creek body struggles to find volunteer committee members to keep operating.

WVCC president Fiona Carrick proposed the merger at the WCCC annual general meeting, but it was declared out of order.

She had been invited to chair the meeting, at which all positions were declared vacant but no one stepped up to nominate.

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An attempt to form a mini committee of two to keep the council operating temporarily foundered due to legal issues, but a motion was passed to seek advice from Access Canberra on a way forward and hold another AGM in a month to try again to elect a chair and committee.

Outgoing chair Bill Gemmell said Ms Carrick, an Independent candidate at the 2020 ACT election, had ambushed the meeting with the merger proposal, which met resistance from most there.

Mr Gemmell said he was aware of Ms Carrick’s merger ambitions but didn’t expect her to try to insert a motion from the chair on it.

“Fiona clearly wants to merge Woden Valley, Weston Creek and Molonglo into one council,” he said.

“Is it to further her own political agenda or what?”

Mr Gemmell said he opposed any merger because the two districts had differing communities of interest.

“No one said it was a good idea,” he said.

“I don’t think they could adequately cover the views of both. This is why Molonglo stepped out of Weston Creek Community Council.

“I don’t understand why she couldn’t have done this in a civilised manner.”

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Outgoing Weston Creek Community Council chair Bill Gemmell with Transport Canberra and City Services Minister and local MLA Chris Steel. Mr Gemmell says Weston Creek has its own community of interest. Photo: Region.

Ms Carrick said that if the next WCCC meeting failed to find a committee, the community should consider other options, such as a merger.

“We’re both small districts … I think Woden and Weston Creek should work together,” she said.

The advantages would be having a stronger voice and a bigger population to draw from to represent the community.

Ms Carrick said the catchments of the Gungahlin, Belconnen and Tuggeranong community councils were each bigger than Woden and Weston Creek combined.

Asked if she would like to include the Molonglo Valley Community Forum in a merger, Ms Carrick said: “We’re willing. We’re in the same electorate of Murrumbidgee. We’re all advocating for services.”

But Molonglo Valley Community Forum chair Ryan Hemsley dismissed the idea.

“The Molonglo Valley Community Forum has no intention of merging with any other community council,” he said.

“We believe people who live in Molonglo are best placed to represent their interests, and the Forum will continue to provide residents with those opportunities for the foreseeable future.”

Any merger would require special general meetings to discuss and vote on the matter.

The skirmish over a potential merger comes as questions persist about the sustainability of the current community council model, which Mr Gemmell says is broken.

He believes government has stopped listening, MLAs and officials rarely turn up to meetings, and it would not surprise him if, after the next election, a returned government decided community councils were no longer needed.

The recent changes to the deed of grant cutting the number of public meetings from nine to just four but imposing two engagements of some kind with disadvantaged groups was the last straw for Mr Gemmell, who had been chair for three years.

The Molonglo Valley Community Forum has decided for now to not accept the deed of grant and the $13,000 in funding that comes with it and operate independently.

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Ms Carrick is open to the possibility of paid positions in some form to solve the issue of volunteer burnout, but Mr Gemmell is opposed.

“Fiona has the same problem we have; government has stopped listening and stopped engaging,” he said.

“Why would you pay someone to be ignored?”

Mr Gemmell also said the wrong people would do it for the wrong reasons.

The community councils have said they feel increasingly sidelined, with the government preferring to use the YourSay website to obtain and sift feedback.

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I can’t understand why Woden and Weston Creek Community Councils split. Both councils have always been in the same district since the 1960’s. Molonglo now wanting to go it alone makes them irrelevant and looking like a shag on a rock. Contrary to Bill Gemmell’s comments all councils are in the same catchment areas with common interests.

Why would locals want to join or engage with the councils with all of this infighting? I don’t blame government members for not wanting to get involved or turn up to meetings. I wouldn’t! Fiona Carrick’s endeavours to merge the three groups for a larger and stronger voice makes sense.

What is it with the Bill Gemmell’s and Ryan Hemsley’s of this world that they seek conflict? They are relics of the past and wreckers! Good riddance!!

Jack,
Weston Creek, Molonglo and Woden are separate districts and have been for decades.

If you think they’re similar or the same, then perhaps you should take it up with the ACT Government who is in charge of these definitions?

Molonglo in particular is a very new development area, with significant levels of greenfield construction occurring and the need for new service provision. It’s demographics and needs are fundamentally different to Woden, which average age of almost 10 years less, different household profile, different levels of home ownership and mortgage rates etc.

How old do you think Ryan Hemsley is? Relic of the past. LOL.

Weston Creek and Woden were separate districts but always in the same catchment areas. the Woden Community Council started its life as the Woden Community Service in the late 1960’s. Weston Creek suffered from the same lack of services as Woden Valley and the district became part of WCS activities. The WCS’s first chair was a very active volunteer and community worker who lived in Weston Creek. Isolation, transport and community services were lacking in both districts and this was a significant part of their work. The Weston Creek Community Council became a separate entity in 1991 following self government.

WCC, WCCC and Molonglo are the smallest district councils in the ACT. Like Molonglo, West Belconnen is also a very new development area with significant levels of greenfield construction occurring. This new district also needs significant new service provision but remains a part of the Belconnen Community Council. Weston Creek and Woden Valley are also aging and undergoing significant renewal and development work including the new CIT and light rail.

Irrelevance, and a shrinking support base has ensured that Molonglo, WCCC and WCC have become unrepresentative to their communities. WCC’s chair has offered a solution but WCCC and Molonglo’s committees have refused the offer. Like petulant children, Molonglo’s board has refused government funding at the expense of their community. Unfortunately, it has now been left to the government, at taxpayer expense, to find a solution!

So we agree your claims about them being in the same district is wrong. Thanks.

“The Weston Creek Community Council became a separate entity in 1991 following self government.”

Yes, so they’ve been operating independently for over 30 years because the needs of the community are different. Why change now.

“Like Molonglo, West Belconnen is also a very new development area with significant levels of greenfield construction occurring. This new district also needs significant new service provision but remains a part of the Belconnen Community Council.”

Thanks for pointing out how poorly represented the Ginninderry area is with their fundamentally different needs from the rest of Belconnen. Perhaps when they get enough people they could get better community representation focusing on their specific issues.

“Irrelevance, and a shrinking support base has ensured that Molonglo, WCCC and WCC have become unrepresentative to their communities.”

You just described every single Community Council. Well done.

“Unfortunately, it has now been left to the government, at taxpayer expense, to find a solution!”

LOL, you think it’s a bad thing that the government should actually do its job in engaging the communities they are meant to represent. Too funny.

Part 2 WCCC Facebook online, hear the truth for yourself.
Simone Hunter was nominated for the Chair, 2 hands went up to join her. They only need 3 committee members for 12 months, they need to accept 12 months. They have a committee. Dissolved committee inappropriately disrupted the AGM

Link for Part 2 Facebook online, hear the truth for yourself. https://m.facebook.com/story.php/?id=805967059997969&story_fbid=1379262532668416
Simone Hunter was nominated for the Chair, 2 hands went up to join her. They only need 3 committee members for 12 months, they need to accept 12 months. They have a committee. Dissolved committee inappropriately disrupted the AGM

Simone Hunter was nominated for the Chair position, 2 hands went up to join her for the new committee, dissolved Bill berated Simone trying to talk her out of taking up the position,dissolved Public Officer/Secretary Also inappropriately interfered and disrupted the AGM. They can have 3 Committee members for 12 months. Simone should chair November meeting. Link for Part 2 Facebook online, hear the truth for yourself. https://m.facebook.com/story.php/?id=805967059997969&story_fbid=1379262532668416

Leon Arundell11:05 am 03 Nov 23

The previous chair of Weston Creek Community Council (WCCC), Tom Anderson, always contributed constructively at Combined Community Council meetings.
Since Bill Gemmell became chair of WCCC, Molonglo residents have left WCCC to set up the Molonglo Valley Community Forum, nobody is prepared to be on the WCCC committee, and Gemmell would apparently prefer to leave Weston Creek residents without representation rather than have them participate in a merged Woden-Weston Creek community council.

Leon Arundell10:55 am 03 Nov 23

It is incorrect to say that the government has “cut” the number of public meetings. This year’s grant offer requires each Council to, “hold at least four … [public] meetings per year.”

This is a sad and a tough issue. On the one hand, the community councils are really the last line of defence against a rapacious, bent and brainless government. Many, many, MANY dodgy attempts by Barr &co to do X or Y or Z have failed only because of community councils standing up, stepping up and speaking up. Among the numerous losses, there have been many wins for local areas and local residents. These episodes show the value of community councils – the haughtiness, heartlessness and hollowness of our government has only been defeated by community councils putting up a fight. There is nobody else. The Libs cannot get the numbers, and the Greens, despite their (*urgh*) “branding”… Do. Not. Give. A. Stuff.

On the other hand, many community councils have been dominated by the same few personalities for years, some are pretty OCD, they do not play well or share, they don’t accept alternative viewpoints, they have their own personal agendas and plans and interests, and they do not foster true collaboration with newbies or potential future leaders looking to join up and chip in and take these organisations into the future.

So, I can see why, given the ongoing devastation that the pandemic has wrought across so many different areas of society, volunteering is falling to dangerously low levels. But at the same time, if these bodies tip over, there will be nobody left to stop this pack of pinstripe pirates looting our suburbs for whatever they can take, and if you reckon Barr has been bad so far…

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