Giralang Shops -- Last day to comment on Development Application

lobster said :

The servo and the mechanics are owned by the same guy who owns the shops area?

I know the mechanics was paul wyte automotive (bloody good mechanic)and was forced out of there from mobil and thats also why the bianchini’s who had the lease were also forced out from the servo part of the business. look at the place now. what a joke. it used to be thriving.

Shops in giraland should never be anymore. Look at kaleen with three distinct shopping areas. There is hardly room for two let alone three. ‘Middle shops, you are the weakest link’

roos said :

Roos said: good luck to you in years to come lobster, every time someone takes something from you in life for their own selfish purposes, you can shrug your shoulders and tell yourself not to whinge because it’s just the way things are.

Well said, and the rest of it too.

good luck to you in years to come lobster, every time someone takes something from you in life for their own selfish purposes, you can shrug your shoulders and tell yourself not to whinge because it’s just the way things are.

If you seriously believe that a well run local centre that was properly invested in and had a few fresh ideas and initiatives couldn’t work, and you believe the shop leaseholders were genuine in trying to make things work for weekly rent rather than a $3m capital gain on townhouses, then stay at home and blog on buddy because the world out there is a better place without your direct input. If you do leave your house one day, go and take a look at Melba, Downer, Spence, Evatt, any number of suburbs with the same demographics that have thriving local centres. COuld it be that they’re well run? Could it be that they have produce on their shelves? Could it be that their owners haven’t yet cottoned on to the fact that all they have to do to turn their sites into goldmine residential developments is MAKE SURE the shops fail! But preferably, make them fail in a suburb full of lazy loser lobsters who will just say ‘oh well, that’s the way it is’

yeh i think the servo is owned by the same guy.
i shopped there a few times but not very much the iga was really overpriced.like 3 litres of coca cola was 6 bucks
its about 15-20 minute walk to kaleen village aka supabarn if you have legs.

The servo and the mechanics are owned by the same guy who owns the shops area?

Did you actually shop at the IGA? More than bread or milk?
If you did you would have been one of the only ones.

The newsagency left because no one came to the complex before any of this started.

The hairdresser went on holidays over the new year period and just never came back a few years ago.

But yeah… If people continue to put up signs in front of houses on Chuculba then the shops will definately be saved.

The units planned for directly above the shops have two bathrooms, but only one bedroom. That is weird, perhaps they plan to convert the shops below to additonal bedrooms when they “fail to attract tenants”?

lobster,

When I moved to Giralang in 2001 there was an IGA, a bakery, a tavern, newsagent, hairdresser, takeaway, Vietnamese restaurant, service station, mechanic and auto electrician.

DESPITE the lease-holders letting the place run-down.

Now there is a servo. Period. We will never know how viable those shops were because they were killed off (4 leases were either not renewed or impossible terms offered). The mechanic and auto electrician saw the writing on the wall and went too.

I am pissed off that my local centre has been so damaged, possibly irrevocably.

I am opposed to the current development application because the retail space is a joke. It is probably too small to have the critical mass required to be successful. The retail spaces themselves are small and unsuitable for most retail applications. There are only 8 parking spaces for all the retail space. Shop owners and parking for the disabled and you’re left with .. SFA. The only loading bay is at the front of the shops.

The leaseholders have resisted putting any retail space in their development plans and only did so (grudgingly) at the insistence of the government. A cynic might be inclined to think that the retail space is designed to fail, and converted to residential space. If, indeed, the retail space were constructed at all.

Basically what Thumper said.

I think the real issue here is that we have a planning environment that enables a landlord to take steps to allow/promote a suburban shopping centre to decay so that they can reap the $ of converting it to residential.

If shops are not going to be viable, then let the Government take back the lease and re-auction the space for residential, then hopefully the community as a whole not the owner/developer get the benefit.

I live in the units directly across from the shops.
Yes. It would be great to have the shops there.
But no one went to them.
You could put all the shops that you want there. People need to actually shop at them.
No one shopped there while there were shops there. Why is everyone ready to shop there now?
Everyone would do their shopping at supabarn and then buy milk after work from the IGA.
And thats about it.
People only want the shops there so that when they sell their house they can say “Close to shops!”
The takeaway tried to reopen about 3 or 4 times and no one went there.
The tavern was the only thing making any money there. I feel bad for the people that ran the tavern.

Anyway, when it gets developed, there is going to be commercial space in it. That is better than nothing.

I am sick of all the complaining people doa bout this. If they shopped at the shops half as much as they complained, then they would still be there and be making millions.

Huh..don’t understand farout, what on earth are you talking about?