Health statistics so ugly the Chief Minister has nothing to say

howeph said :

Presenting with chest pain at the emergency department is NOT wasting anyone’s time.

Robertson can you please tone down the aggressiveness in your posts. You might not realise it but calling people names, like a hypochondriac, is not funny or incisive; it’s boorish.

It’s much worse than that – it’s dangerous. Never listen to such idiotic advice. The ED is the place to be, as fast as possible, in the event of chest pain.

What a pity there isn’t an emergency department for grammar.

America’s war on drugs has been a massive failure, but its war on the gerund has been a total success.

funbutalsoserious said :

+1 for Pantsman comment, this government has stupid priorities.

But we keep voting for them, so why should they care what we think?

+1 for Pantsman comment, this government has stupid priorities.

I’m with PantsMain – the political priorities in this town are totally off-beam.

virgil99 said :

“potentially avoidable GP presentations” is a misnomer. Something to distract attention. Just because something is a triage cat 4 or 5 doesn’t make it GP. Just because someone thinks after presenting to an ED and being sent home with a diagnosis that their GP could have handled it doesn’t mean that they could.
This is old data, and being misrepresented. ACT has two emergency departments. Both are major ones. Amongst national major ED’s, both TCH and Calvary sit in the middle to top half. Every other state has small hospitals that do much better and make the figures look better. Look closer at the individual stats for each hospital in the country. Look at John Hunter, or Townsville, or Flinders, or Royal Hobart, as the only really similar hospitals to TCH and see how they do.
Sometimes people wait. Sometimes they wait for too long. The vast majority of time the quality of care they receive is excellent. Sometimes it isn’t. But judging an ED purely on how long someone sits in a waiting room???

How is 2012-13 data “old”?

If big hospitals do badly compared to small ones, despite the fact they presumably get the serious urgent cases like road trauma which are treated quickly and help their stats, then perhaps there is a lesson there. And smaller hospital may also have faster ambulance response times (in both directions) because they are closer to the population.

IP

Chop71 said :

yup, you get what you vote for……

no plastic bags and gay marriages

very important stuff when you’re waiting in emergency

Correct. We are forgetting that 0.01 percent of the people getting crap healthcare really want gay marriage.

Katy, Barr and Corbell are delivering for them.

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

The AIHW data indicates that, of the 118,000-odd A&E presentation in Canberra in 2012-13, 46,000 were ‘potentially avoidable GP-type presentations’.

Because we have such a good health system.

“potentially avoidable GP presentations” is a misnomer. Something to distract attention. Just because something is a triage cat 4 or 5 doesn’t make it GP. Just because someone thinks after presenting to an ED and being sent home with a diagnosis that their GP could have handled it doesn’t mean that they could.
This is old data, and being misrepresented. ACT has two emergency departments. Both are major ones. Amongst national major ED’s, both TCH and Calvary sit in the middle to top half. Every other state has small hospitals that do much better and make the figures look better. Look closer at the individual stats for each hospital in the country. Look at John Hunter, or Townsville, or Flinders, or Royal Hobart, as the only really similar hospitals to TCH and see how they do.
Sometimes people wait. Sometimes they wait for too long. The vast majority of time the quality of care they receive is excellent. Sometimes it isn’t. But judging an ED purely on how long someone sits in a waiting room???

howeph said :

Presenting with chest pain at the emergency department is NOT wasting anyone’s time.

Robertson can you please tone down the aggressiveness in your posts. You might not realise it but calling people names, like a hypochondriac, is not funny or incisive; it’s boorish.

+1.

DrKoresh said :

They should recruit you lot of whingers to work the waaahmbulance.

Groan. Old meme is really old, and wasn’t particularly funny to begin with.