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How dedicated bike lanes work in Amsterdam

By Grail - 16 August 2011 81

Following Pedal Power’s contentious proposal yesterday for barriers to separate bike lanes on Northbourne from traffic here’s a look at how they do things in Amsterdam.


bike path

The cycleway is the red portion of this pavement.


bike paths

Here’s another example of Amsterdam. Two-directional tramway in the middle-through-lower-left. Bike path on the left behind the teal bollards, and to the right. Sandwiched in there are two lanes of car traffic. This path is about as wide as Northbourne Avenue between Sydney and Melbourne buildings.


bike paths

And here is a drawbridge which has two spans: one for cars, the other for pedestrian traffic (i.e.: “Copenhagen style”)


bike path

And remember that the bike paths are shared between bicycles and mopeds.

What’s Your opinion?


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81 Responses to
How dedicated bike lanes work in Amsterdam
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KB1971 10:16 am
16 Aug 11
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The top one could easily work on Northbourne, either in the nature strip or the middle. Only on Northbourne IMO, I cycle in from the south & I think it is well catered for with the combination of off road paths & on road lanes.

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Gungahlin Al 10:18 am
16 Aug 11
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I like it.

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Deref 10:34 am
16 Aug 11
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It works brilliantly in Amsterdam and in other places in Europe. So sensible. Maybe we could import some brain cells from Holland and implant them in our politicians.

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Mr Gillespie 10:35 am
16 Aug 11
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Looks better than the “slim, narrow strips” that separate cars from semi-on-road bike lanes like in Sydney.

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chewy14 10:45 am
16 Aug 11
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Yeah, if only we had the population density of Amsterdam and everyone could ride or catch public transport everywhere.

Where are the cars meant to go?

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Jim Jones 10:58 am
16 Aug 11
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chewy14 said :

Yeah, if only we had the population density of Amsterdam and everyone could ride or catch public transport everywhere.

Where are the cars meant to go?

You’ll never change anything for the better if you can’t accept change at all.

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PigDog 11:03 am
16 Aug 11
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I don’t think it is fair to compare the roads in those photos with Northbourne. Show me a six lane road that has these bike lanes, please.

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lumpy 11:11 am
16 Aug 11
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Mr Gillespie said :

Looks better than the “slim, narrow strips” that separate cars from semi-on-road bike lanes like in Sydney.

Are you referring to the ones around Surry Hills, Woolloomooloo etc? I personally like them, but I’m not a rider myself so I can’t comment on their practicality.

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chewy14 11:12 am
16 Aug 11
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Jim Jones said :

chewy14 said :

Yeah, if only we had the population density of Amsterdam and everyone could ride or catch public transport everywhere.

Where are the cars meant to go?

You’ll never change anything for the better if you can’t accept change at all.

And you’ll never change anything for the better by assuming that things that work overseas in cities with completely different demographics will work here.
Forward planning is the key and unfortunately we’ve been failed by successive governments refusing to think beyond the current election cycle.
If I could ride a bike or catch public transport to work I’d be thrilled. Unfortunately the layout of our city prevents it.

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BicycleCanberra 11:14 am
16 Aug 11
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It is important to compare like roads, Northbourne Ave is unusual, in that I mean ,to have a six lane road running through the centre of your city at high volumes, and you would be had pressed to find an equivalent in Holland. Copenhagen’s , Hans Christian Boulevard would be similar but is lower in speed particularly in the city centre and a mix of cycle tracks (Copenhagen style) and cycle lanes but then again only 5 in 10 Copenhageners rate their infrastructure as safe.

http://youtu.be/ZtX8qiC_rXE

Here is what Amsterdam used to look like in the 1970’s it wasn’t so much cycle friendly then and accidents and fatalities where much higher until they started implementing cycle infrastructure and restricting car use……

http://youtu.be/5AB3hCbH0s4

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Skyring 11:29 am
16 Aug 11
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I spent several days in Amsterdam last year. The bike lanes work, but by jingo, foreigners have to keep their wits about them. Not only are the vehicles coming from the wrong direction, but there are bikes – some of them quite large family affairs – and scooters on what we regarded as the footpath. Not just one or two, but a peak hour stream.

It’s a great way of moving people around. It works well – in Amsterdam, where the land is dead flat and the population density high. Even in the suburbs, it takes about as long to drive somewhere as bike it. In the centraal area, bikes are by far the most efficient way to travel.

Canberra, sprawling across the map, divided by ridgelines, is not the place for this sort of system.

I’m all in favour of more bikeways, but they should be dedicated to cyclists, away from roads and pedestrians as much as possible.

As a night cabbie, kangaroos and idiot cyclists in dark clothing and without lights are the two perils of the job that worry me most. Forget the drunks and crazies – I can handle them. It’s the things that jump or ride out in front of me without warning that give me the willies.

You get more cyclists on the streets, you’ll get more accidents.

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shadow boxer 11:35 am
16 Aug 11
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chewy14 said :

Jim Jones said :

chewy14 said :

Yeah, if only we had the population density of Amsterdam and everyone could ride or catch public transport everywhere.

Where are the cars meant to go?

You’ll never change anything for the better if you can’t accept change at all.

And you’ll never change anything for the better by assuming that things that work overseas in cities with completely different demographics will work here.
Forward planning is the key and unfortunately we’ve been failed by successive governments refusing to think beyond the current election cycle.
If I could ride a bike or catch public transport to work I’d be thrilled. Unfortunately the layout of our city prevents it.

Correct, Northbourne takes 1,000’s of cars through civic and across the lake where they are dispersed quite well by State circle, there are a 100 ways to ride into civic from the north without clogging up the only option that the cars have for traversing the city.

And while i’m at it why do we have pedestrian lights on c’wealth ave disrupting peak hour traffic for months for floriade when 100 metres down the road people can walk underneath the bridge and into the park.

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BicycleCanberra 11:44 am
16 Aug 11
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PigDog said :

I don’t think it is fair to compare the roads in those photos with Northbourne. Show me a six lane road that has these bike lanes, please.

This is a six lane road with separated lanes at this point near the city centre but not for the whole distance of the road……..

http://maps.google.com.au/maps?q=amsterdam,holland&hl=en&ll=52.359012,4.904923&spn=0.014703,0.037551&sll=-25.335448,135.745076&sspn=43.331499,76.904297&vpsrc=6&t=h&z=15&layer=c&cbll=52.358977,4.904781&panoid=mNnmyJgWoGMiNHMYgN8Tmg&cbp=12,257.64,,0,21.91

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doomguy1001 12:15 pm
16 Aug 11
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Amsterdam is NOT Canberra! Hope that is clear for some of you out there.

Canberra was designed with cars and the possibility of a rail/tram system in mind. Not the Utopian cyclist paradise you wish to create, I second what SkyRing said about keeping cyclists away from roads as much as possible.

Think about it, How can a cyclist be run over or be involved in any kind of contact with the road traffic (with the exception of intersections) if they are riding on a bike path/pedestrian path at least two or so metres away from the road.

Granted the bike path system doesn’t exactly lend itself to direct timely commuting and heaven forbid that pedestrians with children and/or dogs could using them. But surely the existing network could be looked at and improvements made to cater for more direct travel using the bike path network. Why create a new network when we can spend less time and less money improving what we have already got?

You want the dedicated bike lanes? Amsterdam style? Pay rego. Road vehicle traffic pays rego to basically pay for the cost of construction and maintenance of the roads – cyclists using the road based bike lanes have been getting a free ride (excuse the pun) on the road system for too long.

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BicycleCanberra 12:48 pm
16 Aug 11
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doomguy1001 said :

Amsterdam is NOT Canberra! Hope that is clear for some of you out there.

You want the dedicated bike lanes? Amsterdam style? Pay rego. Road vehicle traffic pays rego to basically pay for the cost of construction and maintenance of the roads – cyclists using the road based bike lanes have been getting a free ride (excuse the pun) on the road system for too long.

Note: they don’t pay rego for bicycles in Holland or in Denmark. Should pedestrians have to pay rego for Footpaths? Silly analogy, We all pay rego,rates and taxes.

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