A corker from impactednurse

sirocco said :

This is his newest post:
http://www.impactednurse.com/?p=2100

Not quite.
His three ebooks have been around since August 2008, when he started offering the PDF trilogy. The link is central right of every webpage on his site.
http://www.impactednurse.com/?p=549
The Back Passage is originally from 2007.
(But new impactednurse readers, such as WMC or ProudTenant, probably overlooked any form of context whlie typing their original frothing rants)

And WMC, the reason I hadn’t commented here was because I had been working 40hrs of unscheduled project recovery since Thursday.
If you really think there’s a valid comparison between arguing here and getting paid double to do what I would do anyway, you’re even more of a special case than I’d thought.

threats of physical violence that will correspond with the time that Woody

What are you implying, exactly? Because if you’re suggesting that I am in any way associated with threats of violence against anybody, put it out there in black and white, you gutless little toss artist, or drop it. The last thing you want is to be The RiotACT’s next humiliating front page apology.

If that post gets pulled we will know three things for certain.

1. Woody will have tried desperately to confect some rational reason for opposing the post but will fail.

2. Impacted nurse will receive threats of physical violence that will correspond with the time that Woody’s desperate grasps for relevance start getting ignored by all except Proud Tennant.

3. Woody will claim victory on the basis that his pathetic arguments convinced all and sundry that the post should be pulled.

That was a great read!

I just can’t imagine this post ever finishing 🙁

so here goes:

It may be that Impactednurse took the awesome-or-offensive-depending-on-your-point-of-view post off his website as he wanted to present, to readers like WMC and PT, a comprehensive compilation of similar material. This is his newest post:

http://www.impactednurse.com/?p=2100

or the direct link

http://www.impactednurse.com/pics3/the_back_passage.pdf

go nuts fellas

NO ONE EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!

I wasn’t expecting the Spanish Inquisition!

…the Spanish Inquisition?

Sorry accepted not excepted…

Welcome, LondonFields! I hate to dismiss such a lengthy bit of research in so few words, but: yes, Ido like to stand up for what’s right while treating those who don’t with utter contempt. I give your research a B – next time, include hyperlinks to your citations to make it easier for others to follow.

So it will be a similar success then when it happens to you.

What are you going to do about, champ? Run over my my ‘stupid kids’? Lessons in virtue and the public good from an impotent street hoon. Haaaaahahaaaha.

Soo…. An ambulance officer puts up a post, I’m Billy, I work for the ACT Ambulance Service, I have done for 20 years. I have gone to 3,800 single car crashes, of them the driver of the vehicle was always a drunk driver. One time the driver was so drunk he ended up in the pond at the round a bout on Anzac Parade!

He has clearly stated who he is, where he works, what the job is and that the driver was drunk? Breach of confidentiality?

How about, I’m Bob, I work for the AFP, have done for 15 years, I have gone to countless domestic violence incidence, there have been a lot where the female has bashed the male, there was one time where I saw that the female had hit the male so hard with a fry pan, the fry pan handle was broken and the pan was bent, they were arrested and put before the court – how about that one?

Hi, I’m Geraldine, I am a nurse at The Canberra Hospital, I have been there for 10 years, in that time I have had to treat at least 20 people because they have fallen onto strange items which ended up lodging in there rectum, one guy had the head of a statue up there – well?

The problem with the “goody goodies” on this thread is – mainly they are getting upset over nothing that concerns them, nothing that affects their lives, nothing that is going to change the way they live, nothing that is going to affect anything that will ever remotely have anything to do with them – me I call them PC Wankers.

I value the fact that other people have different opinions to me, as soon as that person tries to force their opinion on to me is when they loose any respect.

Good work WMC and and Proud Tenant – you’ve done a great thing for someone who probably has done more for this community in the last 2 days then you have done in your entire life, great to see free speech is still excepted at all levels.

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

Sad f*ckers lose but keep making fat jokes, showing that Woody was right about their noble intentions all along.
Crying 80s Clown With Flower makes himself a bigger hypocrite than ever by criticising somebody about their anonymity under a pseudonym.
Skidbladnir continues to hide in his hole, afraid to answer a direct question. (It’s OK, buddy. I know why. I just wanted to hear you say it.)
Pommy bastard makes another ‘me too’ post.

Anything else here?

Ah, success. It tastes remarkably like this bottle of Bateman’s Victory Ale. An ale for winners.

*urp*

So a man who does much good in our community cannot share his thoughts and experiences with others because of concern for his personal safety, and that is your success you cowardly childish fool?

So it will be a similar success then when it happens to you.

Pommy Bastard – you arrived at this thread way too late for your comments to have any impact. Sorry. But it’s good to see that you achieved a lifelong ambition – migrating to Australia. I’ll leave the obvious “bastard” jokes alone and let you fill in the blanks.

For the others – had Miller’s fat folds post had any educational value whatsoever, it would have bordered on being acceptable. But he failed miserably in this regard, by simply making a list that was intended to disgust the readers – the (ick” and “eeewww” comments posted by readers on his site (possibly or likely from fellow nurses or students), confirmed that he achieved what he set out to do. Obviously the powers that be at his workplace kindly asked him to remove it as there was no value to the post whatsoever – it was just a list. There was no valid or constructive information for readers, in the event they had to deal with these situations.

Miller did an awful lot of backwards peddling, claiming, as WMC stated, that it was never about fat people. Really? Was I reading another blog?

With regards to the cocaine story. He needs to identify this as a clear case study – to date he has not done so. The words “Lead Story” suggest it is recent, and current. Much like a newspaper would run a lead story. Another error in judgment on his part.

With regards to all those who have suggested that WMC and I are overweight. Whilst I cannot speak for WMC as I do not know the man, I can see that his words were from a point of view of concern, not defence. This man is not fat.

Myself? Well, as I have already stated, I do not have a weight problem (well maybe a couple of kilos of Winter padding), but certainly not overweight or obese. I am very happy with my weight. Statistics suggest that many of the fat people bashers on this site, are in fact, obese themselves. Go on, get on those treadmills people instead of laughing at yourselves.

Anyway, thank you for keeping up the fight WMC. You are a man of courage, clarity, compassion and common sense. Just goes to prove that these attributes always prevail over stupidity.

Now I’m definitely gone out of this thread. Any comments made in response to this final post on this thread will be taken with a grain of salt, and an abundance of laughter.

Hoo-roo folks!

(PS Just waiting for someone to pounce on the “couple of kilos of Winter padding” comment above – typical style of many rioters. Aim low, achieve nothing.)

This place *is* a riot! At last, amongst the usual Interweb dross, a giant emerges. A man of integrity; a man who can say:
*”I’m happy to be angry about injustice”
*”I’ll happily take the bullet to stand up for what is morally and ethically right
*”but I’m considerate to those less lucky”

But, despite these virtues, a humble man:
*”I’m married, hetero, a father, employed, a home owner, educated and rich”
*”Winners don’t have to get over anything. We’re too busy winning”
*”I can sit here and kick your sad arguments to death all afternoon”

Yet, as befits a man willing to ‘take a bullet’ for righteousness, he remains a man of peaceful tolerance:
*”look at what’s right in front of your f*cking eyes”
*”that might be a little too taxing for your limited moral faculties”
*”abundantly clear what’s between two of our nurse’s folds. Did you find anything interesting while you were there?”
*”As with pretty much everything else you all bleat on about, none of it has any effect”

The horizontally-challenged should be glad that such a man so selflessly takes the time to police the internet on their behalf. Bloggers around the world should tremble as Woody casts his righteous eye in their direction.
Keep up the fight Woody. Never has one man so epitomised the virtues of an internet hero!

ProudTenant said :

Show me another blog with real name of blogger, city where blogger works (under population of 330,000), and a photo of the blogger.

Challenge accepted.
Try http://www.dailystrength.org/experts/dr-orrange/article/8-crazy-stories-from-the-er
The first story is from a named, photographed medical doctor working in a town of 88,000 who recounts finding a turkey sandwich in between the folds of fat of a morbidly obese patient.

If you read on further, the later stories make finding items in rolls of fat seem pretty tame in comparison!

Sad f*ckers lose but keep making fat jokes, showing that Woody was right about their noble intentions all along.
Crying 80s Clown With Flower makes himself a bigger hypocrite than ever by criticising somebody about their anonymity under a pseudonym.
Skidbladnir continues to hide in his hole, afraid to answer a direct question. (It’s OK, buddy. I know why. I just wanted to hear you say it.)
Pommy bastard makes another ‘me too’ post.

Anything else here?

Ah, success. It tastes remarkably like this bottle of Bateman’s Victory Ale. An ale for winners.

*urp*

Nurse doesn’t identify fat arsed patients on blog.
WMC imagines he has more of a life than he really does.
Clown killer kicks WMC’s arse all over the board.
Tenant still proud to have achieved life time ambition of renting.

Anything else here?

Honestly, if there were a list of “groups that you don’t want to piss off on the internet” then the overweight would be right up there with Twilight fans and reality TV viewers. This is based on personal observation, not a cheap jibe.

Here’s the cheap jibe: it’s probably not coincidental that these three groups intersect so heavily.

Reading this thread, listening to the arguments fly back and forth, I can’t help feeling slightly voyeuristic, kinda like I’m part of a group watching two retards wrestling in a pit.

Erg0 said :

grooveless said :

Well done people. There is only one comment left on this mans site: the post ‘things I have found in folds of fat’ has been removed due to issues regarding personal safety. Thankyou to all those who have provided both construcitve critisism and words of support.
I will not be commenting any further on this issue and no further comments will be taken on this thread.

I’m not really sure how this relates to the posters here – I don’t recall anyone making threats to the guy’s personal safety on this site. Not quite so much of a moral victory if that’s the reason he took it down, though.

Maybe he’s worried that one of the offended fatties will sit on him?

grooveless said :

Well done people. There is only one comment left on this mans site: the post ‘things I have found in folds of fat’ has been removed due to issues regarding personal safety. Thankyou to all those who have provided both construcitve critisism and words of support.
I will not be commenting any further on this issue and no further comments will be taken on this thread.

I’m not really sure how this relates to the posters here – I don’t recall anyone making threats to the guy’s personal safety on this site. Not quite so much of a moral victory if that’s the reason he took it down, though.

Yes the thread is gone. But at what cost to your credibility woody? To win by sheer will of interlect is a worthy victory indeed. But to claim that victory when it is a nonsense is no victory at all – especially since the post was removed – not through reasoned debate but following threats of physical violence. That’s not a win woody, that’s just a decent bloke using common sense when some faceless Internet wanker like you crosses the line, gets on the blower and starts making threats. Win at all cost hey Woody …

You’ve been chasing your tail on this one since about where I finished up. There wasn’t anything more for me to add you were doing a fine job on your own.

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

No, just lucky, and considerate to those less lucky. Try it yourself some time instead of following the alpha males here around like a grateful puppy.

Oooooh – call the burn unit!

Woof!

There are no winners that have come out of this thread, not the fatties as they ran out of breath a long time ago and certainly not either of you two Woody and Proud.

I personally liked Ian Millers blog and found it to be informative and did not identify who he was talking about. Have you ever read the Police Gazette or a reputable medical journal? Better not or it might blow your mind. (Oh i can see a roll of fat/nipple/half a genital which could possibly identify them! Ohhh quick, someone call Horatio!)

But since you will not answer this post anymore I guess that means you have cut and run.

Well done people. There is only one comment left on this mans site: the post ‘things I have found in folds of fat’ has been removed due to issues regarding personal safety. Thankyou to all those who have provided both construcitve critisism and words of support.
I will not be commenting any further on this issue and no further comments will be taken on this thread.

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

Woody you are such an angry man. I’m worried you will have a heart attack!

I’m happy to be angry about injustice. I have a family history of heart-related illnesses, but I’ll happily take the bullet to stand up for what is morally and ethically right and for others who are treated unfairly.

And we can only hope you end up in this man’s ED.

I have never seen such a hypercrite who thinks he is so much better than so many others.

Many many people must hate you.

Usually when I make a ‘W’ sign about someone it’s referring to something else entirely.

Woody? Oh, you meant ‘wanker’. But that just makes you a sore loser rather than a more run-of-the-mill, vanilla loser.

Woody, Woody, Woody…you didn’t win my little friend

*looks for fat folds post*
*still not there*

Yep, I got exactly what I wanted. That’s pretty much the textbook definition of ‘win’. I’d go so far as to say ‘epic win’ given the level of opposition.

Clown Killer outclassed you ages ago

*checks if Clown Killer got what he wanted*

Nope, he lost. Well, he lost earlier than that – he lost when he refused to answer direct questions about his beliefs, a challenge I was happy to meet head on. And if you think using terms like ‘pathetic lard-arse’ and ‘sorry corpulent arse’ as CK did in your favourite comment #51 is ‘class’, then I’m happy to be outclassed.

That’s me done for this thread. It’s always nice to go out on top, having crushed your enemies, seen them driven before you, and hearing the lamentations of Bimbogeek. Those of you with genital-related user names play nice after I’ve gone, OK?

Mully +1

Genie said :

So I’m asking all those against this blogger.. should all blogs be taken down ?

No, they should be left up, but the word blog should be stricken from existence.

Woody, Woody, Woody…you didn’t win my little friend. Clown Killer outclassed you ages ago and this thread has only served to bring lots of attention to a blog I didn’t know existed until last week. I imagine Impactednurse’s hits on the site have gone through the roof thanks to you and ProudTennants over reaction. Ian Miller is the real winner out of this.

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

Nope – winnah winnah chicken dinnah. Two hands to make a ‘W’ for us, one hand to make an ‘L’ for you.

Usually when I make a ‘W’ sign about someone it’s referring to something else entirely.

Wow i seriously think you all need to get over it.

Winners don’t have to get over anything. We’re too busy winning. Like this time.

Loser.

Nope – winnah winnah chicken dinnah. Two hands to make a ‘W’ for us, one hand to make an ‘L’ for you.

So who wins the Mully cup for this thread?

Ian Miller, Woody or Fat people in general?

Can we get back to the bit about the daiquiris? I was enjoying that!

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

I have a family history of heart-related illnesses, but I’ll happily take the bullet to stand up for what is morally and ethically right and for others who are treated unfairly.

Oh Woody Mann-Caruso!!! You’re my hero! People pick on me because I’m too pretty and enjoy daiquiris and RiotACT and odd hours, but you’re there to protect me!!

Wow i seriously think you all need to get over it.

If this guy didn’t give his name or location no one would care. I have plenty of mates as nurses who use this blog as a helpful reference.

So I’m asking all those against this blogger.. should all blogs be taken down ? I’ve read plenty of blogs from people in all sorts of professions talking about clients and bizarre and interesting stuff ?

ProudTenant said :

The fat rolls post on impactednurse was gone as at 10.05 this morning.

Well done to those who raised concerns.

If it reappears, then Ian Miller should hold his head in shame.

He’s been busily culling negative posts on his site this morning.

Let’s hope that he has learned something from this serious error in judgment.

Tough nut to crack, but he succumbed to pressure from the powers that be.

Bye.

Next time you don your super-hero cape can you do me a favour and get rid of Andrew Bolt?

ProudTenant said :

The fat rolls post on impactednurse was gone as at 10.05 this morning.

Well done to those who raised concerns.

If it reappears, then Ian Miller should hold his head in shame.

He’s been busily culling negative posts on his site this morning.

Let’s hope that he has learned something from this serious error in judgment.

Tough nut to crack, but he succumbed to pressure from the powers that be.

Bye.

Well done champ. Your whinging like a sook has made a bloke remove a post from the internet.Thanks to you we can all safely cruise the internets without worrying. Where would we be without heroes like you? You’d better get back to work. I have a feeling there may be something else, somewhere among the billions of pages on the net that you don’t agree with and will be keen unleash your powers of anonymous dobbing.Loser.

If Woody and Proud had aband it would be called the Killjoys.

WMC – thank you for taking the time to respond as fully as you have. I have a clearer understanding of your perspective and tend to agree with you on how future patients of the health professional may feel on presenting to the hospital – something I had not fully considered previously.

I still would be interested in Proud Tennants expalaination of the breach of confidentiality

The fat rolls post on impactednurse was gone as at 10.05 this morning.

Congrats to you, ProudTenant. It’s good to see there are at least two of us out there.

Woody you are such an angry man. I’m worried you will have a heart attack!

I’m happy to be angry about injustice. I have a family history of heart-related illnesses, but I’ll happily take the bullet to stand up for what is morally and ethically right and for others who are treated unfairly.

csri – ditto, and happy to.

There hasn’t been a breach of patient confidentiality. It would be very hard for a reasonably informed member of the public to identify a specific patient from the list. This is not an issue to me. I feel sure that if he had made patients identifiable, there would be general outrage. He has apparently inadvertently done this before and made amends.

Similarly, I make no claim that being overweight is a desirable, healthy or safe place to be, nor that obesity places an insignificant burden on the health care system. That has nothing to do with the issue at hand (see below) – I’d have the same problem if the case was about Aborigines or homeless people or whatever.

In this regard, my position is that ‘lolz fatties amirite – they’re gross, have gross health problems and cost us money’ is not a constructive approach to dealing with a health challenge facing half the population and rising, and that being obese does not diminish a person’s inalienable and indivisible right to be treated with dignity. Further, the burden arising from the duty to uphold this right is greater for health care professionals than for you and I.

My concerns are:

– a health care professional has chosen to make himself clearly identifiable on a public website (no, not a problem in itself, and I applaud the use of social media to network, share information and voice concerns to the government and the public)

– that professional has chosen to characterise a group of his patients in a manner than has held them up for public ridicule, and has tolerated the publishing of such ridicule on said website (first two problems, and the biggest)

– that, given that he has made himself identifiable, future patients have reason to call the quality of his care – insofar that he is required to provide care that treats patients with dignity – into doubt (third problem)

– while the public may not be able to identify patients, patients themselves will be able to see that the health care professional recalls their relationship with digust – as ‘another matter altogether’, above and beyond the general level of ick associated with nursing – and that he’s content to let people make comments like ‘they need to know we’re laughing at them’. This would cause understandable hurt, shame and embarrassment, and these are not the sorts of thing health care professionals should cause (fourth problem).

That’s where my concerns about his professional conduct end. Re his personal conduct:

He made a post that was clearly about obese patients – fat picture, rolls of fat, moderated posts about fat people, added his own link to fat-related issues for the health care system – but then suddenly claimed he never mentioned fat people at all once the heat was on.

This was professional and moral cowardice on his part, and on the part of his supporters, who before his claim were happy to say ‘it’s all for the good of fat people’, but after the claim were bending over backwards to say he was indeed talking about other things all along. It’s also created a problem for those like Skidbladnir who keep talking about obesity – they think it was about obesity, which kind of scuttle’s Ian’s claims that it wasn’t about obesity and only unreasonable people would think it was.

Ian and his supporters can’t have it both ways. Either the post was about obese patients, in which case it was undigified and unprofessional, or it wasn’t, in which case why all the fat-related imagery, content and condoning of fat bashing in the comments?

That’s about it.

The fat rolls post on impactednurse was gone as at 10.05 this morning.

Well done to those who raised concerns.

If it reappears, then Ian Miller should hold his head in shame.

He’s been busily culling negative posts on his site this morning.

Let’s hope that he has learned something from this serious error in judgment.

Tough nut to crack, but he succumbed to pressure from the powers that be.

Bye.

Canberra, it is a small world but it would be rare for you to come across a nurse here who does not realise the place has ears, tongues wag and the degrees of separation here are narrower than alot of country towns. Therefore the importance of confidentiality and of being careful of how nurses debrief with each other about our work is impressed on us in a very big way

Might be so in the hospital system, but IME community nursing has a high proportion of confidentiality offenders. Debriefing with other patients is an extremely poor and unacceptable substitute for a hospital tearoom or ward nurses’ desk.

Even if they don’t mention names, it can be so easy to put two and two together and work out who they are talking about. A family member once got chatting with a relative stranger (turned out he was friend of a friend) in the TCH cafe, but quickly realised that this was a person that a community nurse had blabbed a heap of personal information about, including their acute care and mental health issues (as well as a bunch of opinionated stuff about non-compliant patients blah blah).

This sort of crap is just not on. Can’t see it being done by ImpactedNurse tho.

Woody Mann-Caruso, more often than not I find myself tending towards a similar point of view to the ones you express on RA, not so sure this time.

in all sincereity, can you clarify whether you, in this instance, have a problem with a potential breach of confidence, general unprofessionalism, a combination of both, or something else?

And I forgot to add, Skid – why are you still going on about obese people and the health system? Ian made it perfectly clear he wasn’t talking about obesity at all. Didn’t you get the memo?

Woody you are such an angry man. I’m worried you will have a heart attack!

No, just lucky, and considerate to those less lucky. Try it yourself some time instead of following the alpha males here around like a grateful puppy.

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

No, I’m white, male, married, hetero, a father, employed, a home owner, educated and rich.

You’re AWESOME, man.

Oh, there you are.

cocaine addicts

I’m not here to talk about cocaine addicts. The thread isn’t about cocaine addicts. Try to pay attention.

I’m making it about Nazis.

Somebody else who doesn’t understand Godwin’s Law. Still waiting for you to point out the logical fallacy. But then I’m still waiting for somebody to find me an imaginary road, put x’s in boxes and answer direct questions about single mothers. Strange how when somebody tries to get you to be straight about your view you all seem to run.

Since the morbidly and dangerously obese are placing such a spillover cost on the health system that nobody wants to pay

Is your claim that because obese people are a burden on the health system, they’re subject to a lower standard of dignity by people in whom they place their trust? Because that’s what we’re talking about here. Not whether being fat is a good thing – it isn’t, for anybody (but then again, neither is population aging). We’re talking about a guy who abused a position of trust for sh.ts and giggles, and is now back pedalling for all he’s worth, making claims that don’t even make any sense, including that he wasn’t talking about fat people, that was just everybody else.

I can’t help but notice you’ve conveniently missed the most important question:

That’s quite a leap you just made. Care to back it up?

Still waiting.

So you’re just here to add noise and say ‘me too’? Probably the most you’ll achieve all day.

You’ve gone all quiet, Skidbladnir – I wonder why?

I am mostly showing up in this thread to draw out further deeply insightful comments like WMC’s now.
As far as I’m concerned Ian didn’t do anything wrong, but you’re welcome to complain the Minister all you like. Being accountable is all part of the electoral cycle.

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

What does it say that the Minister seems to have taken a different view?

Its Katy Gallagher.
She’s certainly not known for her sunny disposition and for reacting well to criticism, and isn’t really known for more than helping the Health system barely keep its head above water, and for prooping up issues that get media attention with half-arsed fixes.
You’re pretty much handing her an opportunity to have a potential critic silenced.

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

What were they being reminded about again?

Things are not always what they seem, that first appearances deceives many, and that paying attention or knowing ‘one extra fact’ can help you see through things being hidden.
And also a fair amount of direct and linked information about how cocaine-related myocardial infarctions can otherwise present as anxiety.
(Did you not bother to read through his linked articles, instead just running with your “OMG TEH POOR FATTIES!” first-impression, and assume he was doing the same to cocaine addicts?)

And then the thread died.

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

But please – point out the logical fallacy in my position

The two sentences immediately preceding this quoted one ran along the lines of I don’t like this subject, so now I’m making it about Nazis.

Staying on topic:
Unlike the morbidly obese, society has rarely (Germany ’33-45 aside) had a demand to fill facilities with industrial equipment, or provide special training on specifically how to to deal with Jews\homosexuals.
Since the morbidly and dangerously obese are placing such a spillover cost on the health system that nobody wants to pay, and their specific consumption-related problems need to be catered for on an industrial level, maybe we could give it a solution, tobacco-style? Maybe we could even call the solution something catchy, seeing as it should be the last one we need…

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

… Do your best.

You mistake my intention in commenting WMC – my fault, sorry.

Personally I think CK way back at #51 summarized this whole matter quite adequately and nothing of value has been added since then. I’m just trying to make sure this thread wins the next Mully Cup.

🙂

I don’t like Hitler much, either. But under your particularly dim point of view, if I attacked him for persecuting Jews, homsexuals and the like I’d be a hypocrite.

But please – point out the logical fallacy in my position. Because I can sit here and kick your sad arguments to death all afternoon. I’ll make it easy for you. Here are two things I believe to be true:

– attacking or denigrating groups of people based on their physical appearance is wrong, and it’s more wrong if you’re in a position of power or trust over those people

– ridiculing a person because they hold poorly-considered beliefs is fine, and it’s more fine if that person is in a position of high authority.

Do your best.

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

I don’t think dragging other people down is ‘all just a bit of fun’.

… unless you’re an elected parliamentarian?

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

You misspelled ‘C*ntroy’.

No, I’m white, male, married, hetero, a father, employed, a home owner, educated and rich. It’s just that unlike you, I don’t think this makes me entitled to abuse the trust placed in me by the public for the amusement of others, and I don’t think dragging other people down is ‘all just a bit of fun’. You might stop to ask ‘fun for who?’, but that might be a little too taxing for your limited moral faculties.

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

Now the morbidly obese have new superhero

You forgot single mothers and Aborigines.

*gasp* Could it be I just don’t like gutless bullies who think they’re great because they like to tear other people down over their colour, gender, marital status or appearance?

Woody, are you clear, androgenous, single & non-descript? Lighten up mate, its all just a bit of fun. You might also note that he forgot Asians, Charnwegians, Bad drivers, Anorexics, the Socially inept, do gooders, whiners, double trannies, amputees and Morris dancers.

Now the morbidly obese have new superhero

You forgot single mothers and Aborigines.

*gasp* Could it be I just don’t like gutless bullies who think they’re great because they like to tear other people down over their colour, gender, marital status or appearance?

The A Team had Mr T to fight injustice.
African Americans had Malcolm X to fight racism.
Now the morbidly obese have new superhero to fight for their right not to be called fat. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Woody XXXXX!

Just as RA has hit-and-miss articles, the fact is that people are aware of it and still read it.

Because the burden to uphold the public trust is just the same in both cases.

The CM could have nipped it in the bud years ago, but let it get this far.

Which makes this latest post right how, exactly? What does it say that the Minister – the acting CM, I might add – seems to have taken a different view? Are you going to keep siding with the government’s position about the blog, or just jump ships to suit yourself?

complaining to the Minister

That’s quite a leap you just made. Care to back it up?

the second actually was a reminder for an audience that neither of us are part of.

What were they being reminded about again?

It’s abundantly clear what’s between two of our nurse’s folds. Did you find anything interesting while you were there?

Personally I find the blog of former RA poster Carzy Chester much more concerning (http://www.ccraven.blogspot.com/) It contains numerous threats and allegations people in senior positions in the ACT, perhaps some of the people preaching their version of moral panic might like to contact the authorities about this one as well?

Way to entirely disregard the point, WMC.
Just as RA has hit-and-miss articles, the fact is that people are aware of it and still read it.
The CM could have nipped it in the bud years ago, but let it get this far.
If it was your first time reading impactEDnurse, you might not have spotted that your two chosen articles were written in much the same style as the rest of his website, before going off the deep end and complaining to the Minister without raising it to Ian Miller first.
Personally, I think you may have missed a lesson somewhere.

Just as the INurse website readers first hear about RA from the specific fallout of your tattling, and think we’re all like you.

I had no problem with the folds of fat (nursing isn’t all about helping the elderly) or cocaine-user (it was a hypoothetical amalgum of experiences) case study.
The first was just an anecdote, the second actually was a reminder for an audience that neither of us are part of.
Your interpretation as a impactEDnurse newbie will be different to theirs (as medical professionals), or mine (as someone who has read the site before).
But then again, I’m not the internet superhero going off on a crusade to save non-existent people from being offended.
ie: Won’t somebody think of the children\fatties\cocaine-freaks?

For example the breast is mostly made up of adipose tissue so something found underneath a large breast could be described as something found in a fold of fat.

Reaching much? A breast is a fold? He was really just talking about innocent boobies the whole time?

The comments – which he moderated – are all about gross fatties. The picture, the term ‘folds of fat’, his subsequent linking to his own article about moving obese patients – no, wait, look over there! If we bend over backward far enough and reach deep enough into our proverbials, we can say it was something else, something with good intentions.

Or we could just look at what’s right in front of our f*cking eyes, no matter how inconvenient to our particular prejudices.

Maybe, but then the Chief Minister got involved and gave it legitimacy.

Yeah, the CM totally ‘legitimised’ the ‘folds of fat’ post.

NeedHelp said :

When he originally started the blog, the hospital only agreed to it, on the basis that didn’t identify himself in any way.

Maybe, but then the Chief Minister got involved and gave it legitimacy.
It has been going strong for eight years since then.

Skidbladnir said :

bd84:
being reprimanded for doing what the Chief Minister said he could do.

When he originally started the blog, the hospital only agreed to it, on the basis that didn’t identify himself in any way.

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

Cool. nothing like a robust and frank exchange of views.

Are you calling Frank fat, you insensitive b*stard?

I love the backpedal on his website: ‘at no time did I discuss obesity’. Guess that pic and the title referred to his many non-obese patients who, for obscure medical reasons, also have enormous rolls of fat.

Kinda puts down all the ‘but it was clearly posted to raise awareness about obesity’ bleating in this thread, too – he reckons it wasn’t about obesity at all, so guess you’ll have to find a new ‘argument’.

I don’t think there is an inconsistancy or back pedal. There is a difference between fat on the hmaun body and obesity. For example the breast is mostly made up of adipose tissue so something found underneath a large breast could be described as something found in a fold of fat.

Cool. nothing like a robust and frank exchange of views.

Are you calling Frank fat, you insensitive b*stard?

I love the backpedal on his website: ‘at no time did I discuss obesity’. Guess that pic and the title referred to his many non-obese patients who, for obscure medical reasons, also have enormous rolls of fat.

Kinda puts down all the ‘but it was clearly posted to raise awareness about obesity’ bleating in this thread, too – he reckons it wasn’t about obesity at all, so guess you’ll have to find a new ‘argument’.

I don’t think about the “higher standard” (what higher standard? who sets it?) that medical professionals are meant to be held to – I look at it from the point of view of the very difficult, often very disgustingly messy service that they provide to the community. I think they’ve well and truly earned the right to vent occasionally – as long as no patient is identified. A patient self identifying doesn’t count, no matter how many details you obscure some nutter would still claim to be a victim.

On the upside, it seems that if the APS ever gets gutted we can rely on our other cottage industry: exporting moral outrage.

Beyond the privacy issues outlined extensively on this post, I think I would prefer a nursing population that knew what to do when I visited the hospital with the tv remote in my folds of fat.

It is clear that the Impacted Nurse is experienced at what he does and it would be a shame that he didn’t or could not share his experiences with other, possibly less experienced nurses. Nurses talk (and I should know with an extended family full of them!) – get over it. Talking (or in this case blogging) is what helps to make your stay in hospital better and for you to hopefully get better sooner. I would rather have a nurse vent, than not – a few things in the folds of someones fat are probably just the tip of the iceberg of what these people see in their day-to-day activities

+1 yellowredme – this is a very valuable blog for nursing students.

As Impacted Nurse has not revealed the identity of his patients I cannot see what the problem is other than that this is a sad indictment on Australian society that these sorts of things are presenting to hospitals.

bd84:
It wasn’t much of a story (or specifically Canberra-relevant) until someone from RA got their panties in a bunch, and officially complained to both the Minister for Health and the Canberra hospital’s Executive. Prior to that it was just your average internet argument between bored forum users.
Now we have a local argument and we can pick sides on, which may or may not end with a man being reprimanded for doing what the Chief Minister said he could do.

I just read all the way to the end of this thread. May I just hilarious and well played Clown Killer. Proud Tennant MUST be a fatty.

Gee 107 comments on a post that links to a blog describing things found in the rolls of fat of random obese patients across the years, I don’t know if that is a record or a new low..

Given that I’m guessing (because I can’t be bothered reading them all) that quite a few of the comments are likely to be the idiots of this town whinging that a nurse who writes a blog which features no true or identifiable information about patients is somehow breaching confidentiality, I’d probably say it’s a new low.

yay. I love you bimbogeek 🙂

mostly cos you’re drinking daquiris on a Wednesday night wah-hoo!

Making fun of fat people is socially acceptable. End of story.

sirocco said :

1. I like the RiotACT – what else IS there to do at 11pm on a Tuesday night?

Truer words were never spoken and this comment easily wins the thread.

Here I am drinking daiquiris and watching Futurama with my boyfriend and catching up on some work… but RiotACT still manages to draw my attention!

Proud Tenant

As a nursing student I need to take time to reflect on my own experiences, have a sense of humour and experience nursing scenarios/receive wisdom though the experiences of others to become the nurse I want to be, the Impacted Nurse blog is one resource that helps me do this. I dont know the fellow who writes Impacted Nurse, but I wish I did as he has a wealth of knowledge that Im more than happy to soak up online.

In my brief time of training I have experienced the extremely sad, the disturbing and also some things that have made me smile or want to laugh out loud, but when with patients I can’t express any ‘normal’ responses to these experiences, I need to be a ‘nurse’. But Im also human, I need to share my experiences with others who go through the same as I do, I need to see the humour in many things to stay fresh and give my best to the next patient, if I dont I may become hard, uncaring or burnt out, all of these equal a less than effective nurse.

I live in Canberra, it is a small world but it would be rare for you to come across a nurse here who does not realise the place has ears, tongues wag and the degrees of separation here are narrower than alot of country towns. Therefore the importance of confidentiality and of being careful of how nurses debrief with each other about our work is impressed on us in a very big way. Apart from altering a very good blog that benefits nurses all over the world I dont see what will be achieved through your proposed actions. The blog does not identify anyone except the blogger, descriptive not degoratory terms are used, case studies are often used to communicate issues, I find that some of the fictional case studies used at Uni could easily fit several people sitting in the class reading the case study, including myself, but of course they are not about us, they are common scenarios we may come across.

The Riot Act which I regularly read often openly lists thinly de-identified information, gossip and things about people some contributors know could easily be traced back to contributors etc. Rather than anonymously attack someone you have never met, who does choose to identify themselves online, it would be more constructive and ethical to approach whatever issues you have with this blogger in a different way. I sincerely hope that this resource that sees me through the few dark days I experience in my profession remains unaltered.

mutley said :

My reading of your bolded bit would be not that fatty-boobahs …

I think you’ll find the correct term is ‘fatty-boomsticks’.

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

It’s not actually possible to say it any better than he does on his site:

It is if you provide the entire quote. Here’s the bit you conveniently left off:

In their personage? Well that’s a different matter altogether.

in other words, these people have cross a line – they are, in his exact words, ‘a different matter altogether’.

So, we’ve now shown that when presented with direct questions about your views, you back down or try to handwave past it all, and that you’ll stoop to silly little games like selective quoting to push your agenda, ignoring anything that contradicts it. Game, set, match. See you next thread, loser.

My reading of your bolded bit would be not that fatty-boobahs are ‘a different matter altogether’, but rather those people who secrete things In their personage… eg. those who might insert an iPhone set to vibrate and call themselves constantly.

Three things:

1. I like the RiotACT – what else IS there to do at 11pm on a Tuesday night?
2. iPhones make posting much easier, and
3. I guess that would be 14 times for me now

Ok, I think I’m being a pest now

6 times now

🙂

Sorry WMC. My vote goes to CK in this thread.

Thoroughly Smashed said :

Oh man, what a train wreck of a thread.

Indeed. Arguing on the internet is like the Special Olympics…

let it go man… just… let it go

…said somebody who’s posted to this thread five times in the past 16 hours, including having nothing better to do at 11:00 last night than to be here.

Times WMC has posted to this thread: 5
Times sirocco has posted here: 12

wow.

let it go man… just… let it go

🙂

Can we start siinging that Shannon Noll song from the biggest loser now?

Oh man, what a train wreck of a thread.

It’s not actually possible to say it any better than he does on his site:

It is if you provide the entire quote. Here’s the bit you conveniently left off:

In their personage? Well that’s a different matter altogether.

in other words, these people have cross a line – they are, in his exact words, ‘a different matter altogether’.

So, we’ve now shown that when presented with direct questions about your views, you back down or try to handwave past it all, and that you’ll stoop to silly little games like selective quoting to push your agenda, ignoring anything that contradicts it. Game, set, match. See you next thread, loser.

Damn it, it looks like I’m quoting myself!

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

___ If I were in a restaurant and overheard my GP discussing an embarrasing aspect of my medical history with his friends, and they all laughed and agreed how disgusting it was, I’d be completely fine with that because he didn’t mention my name.

Couldn’t give a damn, unless he pointed me out!

___ When one of his guests suggested that perhaps that wasn’t cool, and he said ‘let me nip this in the bud right now – I normally treat all my patients with dignity, but this guy was another matter entirely’, I’d think he had a persuasive argument.

If it truly was disgusting, and my own fault, then I would have to agree, and perhaps it would motivate me to do something about it?

___ If another person in the restaurant showed up at a surgery one day with the same problem and found out they would be seen by the same GP, and this caused them distress or concern, they just need to HTFU already, because it’s clearly their fault they’re so disgusting, and the GP was just telling it like it is.

Well they would have the option to leave, wouldn’t they? And yes, they probably should HTFU.

Clown Killer said :

I will admit that I considered compiling my own meaningless questionnaire in response but decided against it. Instead, lets look at this with a cool head.

Dang nammit CK! Now you just make me look bad!

🙂

Hey I’m a “Rioter” now and not just a “trouble-maker” 🙂

Sweeeet

WMC:

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

Clown Killer, would you mind putting an X next to the statements you don’t agree with?

Can I have a go?

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

___ Nurses are charged with upholding the public trust.

yep, I think impactednurse is fine here

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

___ Nurses are obligated to uphold the dignity of all persons under their care, including those they might happen to find disgusting.

have you seen impactednurse at work with his (1000s of) patients? I’m guessing he probably does uphold the dignity of all persons under their care.

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

___ By posting his real name and photograph, this nurse has made it possible for both past and future patients to associate him with his public comments about obese people.

Wot? The, literally, 1000s of fat Canberrans who have been cared for by him? Oh NO! Whatever will we do? I will make sure I never have to go hospital again for fear of seeing this horrible, horrible man (ps that was sarc.)

Seriously though, the last time I was in hospoital I was so broken that nurses like this one had to wipe my bum of crap when I went to the loo – how is that in any way less humiliating to me than potentially reading about it (deidentified) on a blog? The work these guys do is hard and sometimes a bit grotty but I have no doubt that they provide the best care they can.

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

___ An obese person who found themselves under his care might have cause to question the quality of that care and to dear that their case circumstances might one day be made public

The quality of care is not in question. We have absolutely zero proof that he gives poor quality care at the hospital. If he acts professionally at work then he keeps his job

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

___ A past patient might feel hurt, shame and embarrassment upon reading the nurse’s public comments – even though their identity has not been made public, they would realise that the nurse considered them disgusting and placed the entertainment value of posting their circumstances online above their dignity

At no point in his post about things found in rolls of fat does he cast judgement on those in his care or suggest that he was in any way disgusted by what he found. If you read the post it is others who have become subjective about those situations and it seems you too are disgusted by it.

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

___ Causing such harm is inconsistent with the value expected to be upheld by health care professionals

See previous answer. He caused no harm.

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

Don’t identified doctors/psychiatrists write about their patients in case studies all the time?

They tend not to have header images of people with rolls of fat, accompanied by comments about how gross fat people are, or contain author-provided links to other case studies with header images of a fat person being crowd-surfed. There wasn’t a single element of the post that had any information of professional interest whatsoever – no discussion of diagnosis, treatment, or after-care at all. Perhaps you’d like to take the X test too?

This is a post to mostly keep other like-minded (and it appears as though there are quite a number; you may be outnumbered here) practitioners informed as to what one might expect working in this industry and what are considered “normal” situations. Some, new to the industry, without this blog, might be totally freaked out if they found a half-eaten, rotten sandwich on a person on shift and react in a way that would cause more embaressment to the patient there and then than the existance of the blog. This particular post is also intended to keep colleagues interested in his blog so they might continue reading it. And a blog is a blog is a blog: like the RiotACT it is mindless drivel occassionally interspersed with useful tidbits.

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

___ If I were in a restaurant and overheard my GP discussing an embarrasing aspect of my medical history with his friends, and they all laughed and agreed how disgusting it was, I’d be completely fine with that because he didn’t mention my name.

Yep. Believe it or don’t this has happened to me (at a Thai restaurant, I won’t say where, I wouldn’t want to potentially identify it)

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

___ When one of his guests suggested that perhaps that wasn’t cool, and he said ‘let me nip this in the bud right now – I normally treat all my patients with dignity, but this guy was another matter entirely’, I’d think he had a persuasive argument.

That didn’t happen.

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

___ If another person in the restaurant showed up at a surgery one day with the same problem and found out they would be seen by the same GP, and this caused them distress or concern, they just need to HTFU already, because it’s clearly their fault they’re so disgusting, and the GP was just telling it like it is.

Seriously? What are the odds?

But, yeah. sure. why not.

Woody, I enjoyed reading through your bog-paper missive. You start out well but in you attempts to manipulate the issues to make the fit your predetermined notions of offence you lose it a little. I will admit that I considered compiling my own meaningless questionnaire in response but decided against it. Instead, lets look at this with a cool head.

The guy has simply compiled a list. You desperately need to believe that as a result of that list he vilifies morbidly obese people. He doesn’t. It’s not actually possible to say it any better than he does on his site:

These items are things I have found in-between folds of fat on various patients (most, but not all, of whom where obese) over 26 years of nursing practice.

I apologize if you take offense at my list, or think that it is somehow disparaging or demeaning to those labeled by the medical profession as morbidly obese.

Fact is these objects were found, and fact is I find it interesting enough to post it on my site.
Most people I care for, be they fat, skinny or statistically average are hiding nothing of much interest secreted on their personage.

For your confected indignation to succeed you need to emotionalise this issues. You need to turn fat people into helpless cry-babies, to disassociate them from the physical reality of their circumstances. It doesn’t work your way if fat people are realistic about the nature of their predicament. You need them to be hurt and ashamed and humiliated to allow you to indulge in your little fantasy that this guy has crossed your imaginary line.

I think that it is apparent that ProudTenant was one of the fatties in the story.

Skidbladnir said :

Also:
1) Previous Ministers’ already knew about impactednurse.com as far back as 2002.
See Legislative Assembly Hansard here.
2) Jon Stanhope himself wanted to contribute.
3) RiotACT readers have known about impactednurse for years via occasional cross-links in comments.
4) All stories have been changed to protect patient confidentiality.
(I have a suspicion that an ER nurse with over 20 years experience, and the occasional support of the Chief Minister knows more about medical confidentiality than most RiotACT readers)

Ooooh, logical burn! Take that Fat coked out Tenant!

Clown Killer, would you mind putting an X next to the statements you don’t agree with?

___ Nurses are charged with upholding the public trust.

___ Nurses are obligated to uphold the dignity of all persons under their care, including those they might happen to find disgusting.

___ By posting his real name and photograph, this nurse has made it possible for both past and future patients to associate him with his public comments about obese people.

___ An obese person who found themselves under his care might have cause to question the quality of that care and to dear that their case circumstances might one day be made public

___ A past patient might feel hurt, shame and embarrassment upon reading the nurse’s public comments – even though their identity has not been made public, they would realise that the nurse considered them disgusting and placed the entertainment value of posting their circumstances online above their dignity

___ Causing such harm is inconsistent with the value expected to be upheld by health care professionals

Don’t identified doctors/psychiatrists write about their patients in case studies all the time?

They tend not to have header images of people with rolls of fat, accompanied by comments about how gross fat people are, or contain author-provided links to other case studies with header images of a fat person being crowd-surfed. There wasn’t a single element of the post that had any information of professional interest whatsoever – no discussion of diagnosis, treatment, or after-care at all. Perhaps you’d like to take the X test too?

___ If I were in a restaurant and overheard my GP discussing an embarrasing aspect of my medical history with his friends, and they all laughed and agreed how disgusting it was, I’d be completely fine with that because he didn’t mention my name.

___ When one of his guests suggested that perhaps that wasn’t cool, and he said ‘let me nip this in the bud right now – I normally treat all my patients with dignity, but this guy was another matter entirely’, I’d think he had a persuasive argument.

___ If another person in the restaurant showed up at a surgery one day with the same problem and found out they would be seen by the same GP, and this caused them distress or concern, they just need to HTFU already, because it’s clearly their fault they’re so disgusting, and the GP was just telling it like it is.

ProudTenant said :

By IDENTIFYING HIMSELF on the blog by name and photo – he has crossed the line of confidentiality. Get it now???????

I think I get it now, he has breached his own confidentialty by fiendishly identifying himself. Am I right?

ProudTenant said :

May you all choke on an eggplant and end up in ED this weekend. I for one won’t be concerned when this fool decides YOU are the next target for his blog./quote]

Hahahaha, this thread is too funny!!

If I chocked on an eggplant, I would probably make my own blog and tell everyone about it myself!

Also:
1) Previous Ministers’ already knew about impactednurse.com as far back as 2002.
See Legislative Assembly Hansard here.
2) Jon Stanhope himself wanted to contribute.
3) RiotACT readers have known about impactednurse for years via occasional cross-links in comments.
4) All stories have been changed to protect patient confidentiality.
(I have a suspicion that an ER nurse with over 20 years experience, and the occasional support of the Chief Minister knows more about medical confidentiality than most RiotACT readers)

LMAO – (luckily it’s big).

“By IDENTIFYING HIMSELF on the blog by name and photo – he has crossed the line of confidentiality. Get it now???????”

I’m not sure he’s really worried about his own confidentiality or whether his identity is known :p

And he’s said that the cocaine case is completely made up (but hashed together from several other, real situations) as an educational resource – so whose identity has been released exactly?

These sort of hashed-together case studies are exactly how textbooks (written by practicing physicians) are published – this is how it works in tertiary teaching and so why should a blog be any different? Both are a public resource

ProudTenant said :

Good to see someone has taken the step to report this unprofessional twat.

…

Trying to disassociate yourself from the blame?

ProudTenant, in your desperate efforts to turn yourself inside out with indignation you keep missing the point … no confidence has been broken, no personal details have been revealed, no one has been exposed.

You seem to want to make a point about confidentiality (although in nine posts you skirt around the idea but never specifically mention it), yet you refuse to address two key problems with your confected outrage:

a) that the items described in the original piece on fat people cannot be in any way linked or attributed to an individual here in Canberra on the basis of what was posted; and

b) that the young man in the cocaine storey was created as a fiction for the purpose of introducing a storey. I’ll type this slowly for you just so you can get a handle on it: h-e … d-o-e-s-n’-t … e-x-i-s-t.

I’m still waiting for you to explain exactly how anyone could identify a person on the basis of the information on the website … go on … give it a go. When you’re done you could consider apologising to the nurse for being a complete tool.

In conclusion, I think it might also help if you consider the reality that for a confidence to be breached a third party would have to be able to find out the identity of any one of the patients. By definition if the only parties that know are the nurse and the patient then no confidence has been breached. You might get all purple faced as you rage against the meaningless injustice of whatever it is that gets your blood up, but unless an unrelated third party can identify an individual all youve got is … nothing.

Maybe his newfound exposure will help him get a book deal ala waiter rant

If it’s ok for him to speak about his work like this, why don’t we have police officers, or fire fighters, or ambulance staff here in Canberra blogging about what they see in the course of their work? Go on. Show me another blog with real name of blogger, city where blogger works (under population of 330,000), and a photo of the blogger. It is highly unprofessional.

By IDENTIFYING HIMSELF on the blog by name and photo – he has crossed the line of confidentiality. Get it now???????

I have now said that 10 times, and refuse to repeat it again.

You people will see what you want to see, you will read only what your brain allows you to read, but you fail to see the facts. Sad really.

Good to see someone has taken the step to report this unprofessional twat.

Rest my case.

Enjoy the impacted eggplant …

ProudTenant said:

I’m with WMC and will be doing everything in my power to get this guy removed from a position of trust at our biggest hospital.

I’m guessing you’ll be appropriately dressed when unleashing that power.

Wait! It could just be that impactednurse has said all of this untruthfully just so he could avoid the almighty, indignant and righteous wrath of ProudTennant

Holden Caulfield said :

Haha, interesting little tidbit from the impactednurse.com facebook wall:

“Someone has taken offense at my story on cocaine use and chest pain.
Contacting the minister and my workplace.

Congratulations to whoever did that, you’re a dickhead. Have a prize.

If the Minister or ACT Health dares take the whole “No ACT Heatlth employee can run a blog” angle:
1) Other nurses find it useful, as it will occasionally give them a reminder.
2) Nurses from beyond the ACT and ACT Health jurisdiction find it a convenient place to share both resources and anecdotes, leading to 3.
3) Both he and those commenting readers give out useful advice to people within the profession. Information flowing through the profession may make them better or more efficient nurses.
4) It makes nurses and health staff seem more approachable to the people they give care to. We appreciate people more when we know they have lives outside of their work.
5) He’s also being recommended as a resource by the University of Tasmania.
(ie: Its already win for ACT Health, maybe you shouldn’t turn it into a loss…)
6) Readers are voters. Maybe if the public appreciates their nurses enough, we’ll also appreciate the Minister who supports a nursing pay rise.
(IE: It could be a win for whoever is in charge, provided they aren’t an idiot.)

Oh snap!

Some people just enjoy being offended.

I am no fool and I know what is legal and what is not…

Looks like you jumped the shark on that one ProudTenant. It looks like my work here is done …

Ahh, detractors look out, he’s on to you!

Haha, interesting little tidbit from the impactednurse.com facebook wall:

“Someone has taken offense at my story on cocaine use and chest pain.
Contacting the minister and my workplace.

If you are out there….it was a case study. There was never any 22 yo male with chest pain presenting at 2am.

No confidentiality was broken, because it never happened. It was just a tool intended to teach and inform.

Anyways, if you have issue with anything I write, my email is right there in the sidebar.”

Alternatively we could actually believe what Ian Miller has stated on his page:

“impactEDnurse is also known as Ian Miller, a nurse with over 26 years experience working in a busy emergency department in Canberra, Australia. This site in no way reflects the opinions of that hospital. All stories (although based on actual experiences) have been changed to protect patient confidentiality.”

All stories have been changed to protect patient confidentiality.

All stories have been changed to protect patient confidentiality.

All stories have been changed to protect patient confidentiality.

All stories have been changed to protect patient confidentiality.

All stories have been changed to protect patient confidentiality.

(you guys getting it yet? No?)

All stories have been changed to protect patient confidentiality.

All stories have been changed to protect patient confidentiality.

All stories have been changed to protect patient confidentiality.

All stories have been changed to protect patient confidentiality.

(how about now?)

meh – I’m out

Chances are that if you can identify the alleged cocaine user based on the description on the blog (“alleged cocaine user who was admitted to hospital”) then you already know that he is an alleged cocaine user!

ProudTenant said :

POB – he also potentially identified a 20 year old suspected cocaine user who attended the ED at 2am on Saturday night.

With regards to your post above. So then, if you were to stick up for the gays, does that make you gay? What a childish, immature way to see it. You are basically saying that one MUST be fat if one stands up for overweight people.
.

Arrrggghhh, socially responsible ppl!

I dont think that he has identified this individual at all and trying to play the pink card in this discussion albeit rhetorical is immature.

Are you an uppity, fat, gay cocaine user who has taken offence? If not then let the blog take its course and have a laugh at it.

ProudTenant said :

POB – he also potentially identified a 20 year old suspected cocaine user who attended the ED at 2am on Saturday night.

I can not see how you can construe that he ‘potentially identif(ied)’ a suspected cocaine user. Can you explain?

ProudTenant said :

***For your information, his blog was allowed to go ahead on the basis that he didn’t identify himself. Seems to me a screw loosened in his head and he picked up a camera, oh, and typed his name for all to see. Naughty naughty naughty.

Yeah, this was what I was wondering about.

am concerned about his reference to a 20 year old, cocaine use, etc – see his lead story. I have mentioned that umpteenth times, but you didn’t make mention of that in your post above.

So go on then ProudTennant. I challenge you to tell us how anyone’s privacy has been breached. You can start by telling us the date of the Saturday in question … tumbleweed rolls by …

So to re-introduce that hoary old chestnut – logic – lets proceed to the exact working of the post:

A young, fit looking 22 year old man

Well that narrows it down.

…presents to the Triage desk at 2am on a Saturday morning.

Without a date we must assume that it could have been any Saturday in the chaps 24 year long career – we’re talking over 1200 possible dates … feeling like a complete and utter twat yet?

He is restless and anxious and complaining of some vague chest discomfort. The pain started whilst he was out at a local nightclub with friends.

Oh, now I know who it is … actually no, this tells me nothing.

Despite the fact he is worried, he doesn’t look too bad and you are wondering if he is just having an ‘anxiety attack’.

OK now that helps … not.

His pulse is 102 and his resps 20, other observations are unremarkable.

Ditto …

He is a smoker, but has no family history of heart problems and has no medical conditions.

He’s a smoker! I saw a smoker once … it must be the guy. On second thoughts that was a woman so it cant be the same person …

He denies any drug use stating that he has “just had a couple of beers” during dinner.

Mmmmm … not really much help at narrowing it down … but you know what it does round out the anecdote and it does segue nicely into the following discussion on cocaine use …

Lets not let any of this get in the way of the fact we’ve already got our panties all twisted up and we’re hopping mad … about, well nothing actually.

ProudTenant said :

he also potentially identified a 20 year old suspected cocaine user who attended the ED at 2am on Saturday night.

The blog says he came in ‘a’ Saturday morning, not on Saturday morning. Given that the blogger has been a nurse for 20+ years, good luck tracking him down with that piece of information.

POB – he also potentially identified a 20 year old suspected cocaine user who attended the ED at 2am on Saturday night.

With regards to your post above. So then, if you were to stick up for the gays, does that make you gay? What a childish, immature way to see it. You are basically saying that one MUST be fat if one stands up for overweight people.

Hey, I am also standing up for the cocaine user he has potentially identified through identifying himself. Does that make me a cocaine user?

If the “cocaine” post, and his “fat rolls” post are removed, and he removes his photograph and name from the site, then I will be happy.

Funny how most people on this blog have conveniently ignored the post this fool made about a cocaine user.

To the supporters – thank you for having some sense.

@ #36 “If you think 5’6″ and 62 kg is fat, then yes, I’m fat.”

That’s what ‘I’ said. Only fat people will be offended.

Clown Killer said :

ProudTennant I’ll type this slowly so that it will be easier for you to understand.

Oh, any if you bother to read my post at #43 you’ll see that I in fact point out that you know who the nurse is and where they work – but you’re still not going to raise it with them because you know that there’s nothing to raise – except perhaps your own misguided sense of indignation.

If you wanted to do something really useful why don’t you go and chnge the “Save My ABC” sticker on your bumper – the old one’s fading …

Clown – and you continue to make unsafe assumptions. I am no fool and I know what is legal and what is not. Also, if you bothered to read my post above, can’t be bothered looking at the number, you will see that I am concerned about his reference to a 20 year old, cocaine use, etc – see his lead story. I have mentioned that umpteenth times, but you didn’t make mention of that in your post above.

Nice attempt at a joke with the ABC sticker comment.

***For your information, his blog was allowed to go ahead on the basis that he didn’t identify himself. Seems to me a screw loosened in his head and he picked up a camera, oh, and typed his name for all to see. Naughty naughty naughty.

I think that the reason some folk here are up in arms is that they could be one of those ppl referred to on that particular site.

We all know that a good proportion of bloggers/programmers/net heavies (pun intended) are quite big/fat (I have seen this firsthand at DFAT, they have a huge IT section but few players)and if the interweb has taught us anything, fat ppl and computers go hand in hand.

I can see this happening all the time with chips caught in fat rolls or that one gherkin stuck to the side of the face of the chick that ate too fast. Soon we will be seeing missing persons turn up in fat rolls:

Daniel Morecombe found safe! Was stuck in a fat person the whole time! lived well of scraps and garbage found in localised area.

I personally think that it is fine to have the website, does anyone ever have a go at the New England journal of Medicine for advertising the maladies suffered by some? I think not.

Fattie: But I went to hospital with a glandular problem, so that means i am not fat.

Me: Wrong, It means that you are fat! And stop eating so many glands!

STOP THE PRESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just watched a video on impactednurse.com where the villain attempts to demonstrate how to practice CPR on 2 empty Milk bottles. In one scene, A COLES MILK LABEL IS 100% IDENTIFIED!!!!!
I cant wait for all the members of the RiotACT Justice League Defenderers to unleash a torrent of bile and hatred over something that no one cares about.

It never fails to amaze me how hypocritical we are about weight related issues in our society.

Why is it that someone who suffers from anorexia is seen as a person with an illness but someone who is morbidly obese is seen as a self-indulgent person who just needs to develop some willpower? We don’t suggest to people who suffer from anorexia that they just use some willpower to force themselves to eat, so why do we suggest that those who struggle with overeating should just force themselves to stop their behaviour without assistance and if they can’t we then resort to childish ridicule?

As for the specific post from the nurse – he is not writing on a professional forum. He is writing his own personal blog, and is opening up the discussion for ridicule of obese (and more than likely) mentally ill people. If he had posted a list such as ‘what’s the weirdest thing an anorexic person has ever told you they do with food’, we’d be outraged at his insensitivy and lack of confidentially, but because it’s an obese person (who is just as likely to be suffering from an illness), it’s ok?

The fact that he works at a hospital in a relatively small place like Canberra (where everyone knows everyone and we tend to operate in small communities) makes it even more likely that confidentially will not be maintained.

If he shows such insensitivy to obese people it naturally leads to the question of how he treats people with other less socially acceptable diseases.

From reading his blog, I actually don’t think he’s a bad bloke, or a bad nurse. I just think he’s made an error of judgement in this instance. His other posts are much more respectful of patients and helpful to fellow nurses than this particular one.

I love the image I have in my head of the people on this site: bright red face, spittle flying onto the screen as they hammer the keyboard with outrage over nothing. Sitting in their little offices or bedrooms or wherever, pounding away to save us all from our own stupidity…
I enjoyed the post for what is was. Some whimsical observations of what a nurse has seen in 24 years in a very difficult job.
I for one, am grateful for the information. God forbid that anyone may write about anything exposing one of the hidden factors of cocaine use ( such as chest pain and potential heart attacks) because someone my cry about a potential privacy breach even though there was very little identifying information used.

PS I’m fat. I think this was relevant to somebody, somewhere earlier on.

ProudTenant said :

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Not trying to get anyone sacked. Just asking for him to respect his patients and for the hospital to respect our privacy. He has identified himself, and that can in turn ID his patients.

Really? So when you say you want him removed from his ‘position of trust’ what do you mean?

In and of itself, I don’t see anything particularly bad about that particular post, especially given that those events could have occurred anywhere over a 24 year period, but I’ve seen people come unstuck for posting similar levels of “sensitive” information on their blogs. A lot of workplaces have policies for blogs and social networking these days, I’d be interested to know the hospital’s stance on what a nurse can and can’t post.

ProudTennant I’ll type this slowly so that it will be easier for you to understand.

You are making an assertion that people’s privacy has been compromised on the basis that there is sufficient information on the blog post for any member of the public to find out specific information about a patient. So let’s look at the complete list shall we:

• dirt
• a squashed fly
• a half eaten Vegemite sandwich (i kid you not)
• ECG dots from a previous visit
• Kleenex
• a lump of ‘petrified’ poo
• a small tin of Tiger Balm
• various unidentifiable malodorous, viscous substances.
Strangely enough, looking at the list it’s simply not possible to tell. Say I was a pathetic lard-arse who’d showed up at A&E with half eaten Vegemite sandwich tucked under the rolls of fat on my expansive gut, and I read that blog … oh the outrage everyone will know it was me, oh how embarrassing … wait a minute there’s nothing there about when it happened, no date, no mention of whether the sandwich was made on white or wholemeal, whether it was buttered, crusts cut off … actually there’s nothing specific in there that could possibly link my sorry corpulent arse to that sandwich.

Let’s keep in mind also that these observations have been made over a 23 year career. So you know for a fact then that in all instances these items were found on people presenting at a Canberra Hospital … you don’t do you, you have no idea where and when these things were observed – because there’s absolutely nothing linking any of them to anyone, anywhere … but hey don’t let logic get in the way of your self-inflated sense of moral authority.

Oh, any if you bother to read my post at #43 you’ll see that I in fact point out that you know who the nurse is and where they work – but you’re still not going to raise it with them because you know that there’s nothing to raise – except perhaps your own misguided sense of indignation.

If you wanted to do something really useful why don’t you go and chnge the “Save My ABC” sticker on your bumper – the old one’s fading …

Don’t identified doctors/psychiatrists write about their patients in case studies all the time? What is the difference? As long as they don’t give any identifying information, I couldn’t care less if my doc shared my problems on a public forum!

I’m with WMC and will be doing everything in my power to get this guy removed from a position of trust at our biggest hospital.

Um, man. I think that may be taking it a little far.

Not trying to get anyone sacked. Just asking for him to respect his patients and for the hospital to respect our privacy. He has identified himself, and that can in turn ID his patients.

Law 101. Identify the source and there is an opportunity to identify the case.

Can’t believe I just needed to explain that.

Clown – don’t be so sure that I don’t know who Ian Miller is or where he works. You would be making an unsafe assumption.

Please explain to me why it is OK for an IDENTIFIED male nurse, in a training hospital – easily IDENTIIED – to tell us about a 20 year old guy who arrived at ED last Saturday night etc etc etc – you read the rest of the lead story this week.

The fact that the nurse has identified himself, means that it would not be difficult to identify the person or people he is speaking about. Hell, why not just give us the case notes!!!!

If he wants to continue this garbage – he needs to make himself anonymous.

You people need to open your eyes a little – this is unethical.

To the fools who think this is a big joke. The joke will be on you as soon as that eggplant refuses to pass. I don’t look forward to Ian Miller’s description of your nether region in that event. 😉

Providing us with useful information is one thing – and yes, he has some useful information on his blog, but to speak about specific cases the way he is is against the law and breaks the rules of the profession he is in. For those who think the stories are untrue, think again. They are not.

Relate what he is doing to almost any other industry, and I think most intelligent human beings, with a sense of what’s right and what’s wrong, would be appalled.

Do you see police officers on their own blog talking about what they see during the course of their work? NO – because they are simply not allowed to do it. How then can this tosser get away with it?

Watch this space.

I’m with WMC and will be doing everything in my power to get this guy removed from a position of trust at our biggest hospital.

Um, man. I think that may be taking it a little far.

I am sure impacted nurse is trembling in his boots at the notion that ProudTennant is gunning for his job…I know I would be.

I’m with WMC and will be doing everything in my power to get this guy removed from a position of trust at our biggest hospital.

Um, man. I think that may be taking it a little far.

Thumper: you gettin’ soft in your old age! I remember a Thumper that would rant and rave 🙂

ProudTenant said :

Hugh Lews said :

ONLY fat people are offended by comments like this – so chances are every person who has a problem with the blog, is fat.

If you think 5’6″ and 62 kg is fat, then yes, I’m fat.

For all those who think it’s OK for this fool’s blog to remain … next time you go to the hospital with a fork stuck up your @rse, I hope this male “nurse” treats you with the same amount of “respect” he has bestowed upon these other people.

In his lead story today, he has spoken about a patient who went to the ED at 2am on Saturday night with a cocaine problem. Too much information. Unethical. Unprofessional and totally unacceptable.

Ask yourselves. If you went to the psychiatrist, or a counsellor for depression, or something else … would you think it’s OK for your doctor, or nurse, or psychiatrist to write about certain aspects of your case on some dumb blog? How would you all feel?

May you all choke on an eggplant and end up in ED this weekend. I for one won’t be concerned when this fool decides YOU are the next target for his blog.

I’m with WMC and will be doing everything in my power to get this guy removed from a position of trust at our biggest hospital.

I really don’t see what the problem is – it is all de-identified. You would have a point if it named people, it doesn’t so what is the big deal?

I’m with WMC and will be doing everything in my power to get this guy removed from a position of trust at our biggest hospital.

Seriously? What are you going to do? Tell the authorities? What? That a guy who works as a nurse hosts a really interesting blog that’s valued as a resource by other health professionals around the country and that on that blog he posted some information that a) is impossible for you to verify whether or not it’s true, and b) Does not identify any individual or provide any information that could in any way be used to identify any individual.

Make sure you report it anonymously. There’s no point in pretending that you have the courage to actually address the source of your lame-arsed hand-wringing angst. It’s not like you don’t know who Ian Miller is. Or where to find him. Nup, you don’t have the balls to get in touch with this guy to tell him you’ve confected an outrage over nothing …

ProudTenant said :

Ask yourselves. If you went to the psychiatrist, or a counsellor for depression, or something else … would you think it’s OK for your doctor, or nurse, or psychiatrist to write about certain aspects of your case on some dumb blog? How would you all feel?

In all honesty PT, if s/he uses no identifying information as this blogger has, it wouldn’t worry me in the slightest. Really.

ProudTenant said :

May you all choke on an eggplant and end up in ED this weekend. I for one won’t be concerned when this fool decides YOU are the next target for his blog.

And I wish you a very pleasant and happy day.

🙂

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

You can’t identify the patient/s, so what’s the problem?

Oh, wow. You’re a cop, right? And you can’t see what the problem is here?

We know his name. We have his photo. We know he works in a Canberra hospital. So you’re Joe Smith, Fat Person, and you rock up at hospital for treatment, and you realise this guy is your nurse – a guy who you know thinks it’s ok to hold fat people up for ridicule and objects of disgust. Or you’re Joe Smith, Fat Person, and you’ve just read this post and realised that your nurse has been discussing your case history in a public place.

It’d be like you running a blog where you espoused your views on, say, victims of domestic violence (hopeless losers, why don’t they just leave, probably had it coming, god knows I’d like to smack some of them), and then expected to be able to rock up at the next such case with a straight face.

I give it a week for this guy’s blog to disappear.

I’ll put my hand up and admit I didn’t realise the guy who writes the blog was named. That, I find unprofessional. If he – as well as the patients and his place of employment – were anonymous, then it’s a different story.

It’s us on this forum who are taking tue piss out of fat people and not the original blogger – he is merely noting his observations through hs career.

But please do keep us informed of your efforts to get this guy sacked ProudTennant; we wouldn’t want to think that all you were spouting was ‘impotent outrage’ 🙂

I fail to see how anyone’s privacy has been decreased with no identifying information.

Agreed. It’s been anonymised sufficiently.

Can I larf at fluffy day old chicks being sent thru a mincer?

That should read as I’m with WMC. New sentence. I will be doing everything in my power etc. Not implying WMC is involved in anything I do with regards to this matter.

Hugh Lews said :

ONLY fat people are offended by comments like this – so chances are every person who has a problem with the blog, is fat.

If you think 5’6″ and 62 kg is fat, then yes, I’m fat.

For all those who think it’s OK for this fool’s blog to remain … next time you go to the hospital with a fork stuck up your @rse, I hope this male “nurse” treats you with the same amount of “respect” he has bestowed upon these other people.

In his lead story today, he has spoken about a patient who went to the ED at 2am on Saturday night with a cocaine problem. Too much information. Unethical. Unprofessional and totally unacceptable.

Ask yourselves. If you went to the psychiatrist, or a counsellor for depression, or something else … would you think it’s OK for your doctor, or nurse, or psychiatrist to write about certain aspects of your case on some dumb blog? How would you all feel?

May you all choke on an eggplant and end up in ED this weekend. I for one won’t be concerned when this fool decides YOU are the next target for his blog.

I’m with WMC and will be doing everything in my power to get this guy removed from a position of trust at our biggest hospital.

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

But that makes him some sort of intellectual superhero to moral cowards like you.

But he gets to wear a cape, right?

If you can’t laugh at those less fortunate than yourself, then who can you laugh at?

I honestly believe that you’re out of your depth on this one WMC. In your desperate efforts to find offence where none exists you’re making assumptions that just don’t hold.

There is no breach of confidence … no one’s identity is revealed. No one has been named and singled out for ridicule; there is nothing there that would identify anybody. What this is are the observations of a professional over a long career. I have never met an ambo, doctor, nurse, cop, firey or similar who didn’t share a tale or two about the circumstances of their work – I’ve always imagined that it was a way of working through some of the issues that they have to deal with.

There’s nothing in this. It’s not like he’s gone on there and said, “Last week I had to assist a doctor treating this guy whose name was Woody Mann-Caruso – can you believe it he had a whole Christmas ham stuck in his arse … “

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

… But that makes him some sort of intellectual superhero to moral cowards like you.

Can’t see anyone’s done that. I just don’t agree with your summary, which to me appears to be “The first rule of Fight Club Nursing is never talk about Fight Club Nursing.”

I think that’s an absurd argument, and all the mouth-frothing at #29 hasn’t changed my opinion in the slightest.

ONLY fat people are offended by comments like this – so chances are every person who has a problem with the blog, is fat.

And looking for missing household items in all the wrong places.

There’s a real news.com.au vibe here.

You’re all free to say whatever the hell you like about fat people (or black people, or single mothers, or whoever it is you need to kick today to feel better about yourself). As with pretty much everything else you all bleat on about, none of it has any effect on the way public money is actually spent, so it’s all impotent (and somewhat effeminate, in Clown Killer’s case) outrage.

This guy, on the other hand, is charged with upholding the public trust in his professional capacity as a nurse. He’s held to a code of conduct and a code of ethics. He’s broken both to suit his ego. But that makes him some sort of intellectual superhero to moral cowards like you.

It’s definitely interesting that the problem wasn’t nearly as widespread or prevalent even a generation ago, but now it’s somehow not the fault of the people in this situation.

That said, they do deserve their privacy. But I don’t feel their privacy has compromised here.

Clown killer – you rock !

The Government has stated that Millions probably billions are spent every year treating people with weight related medical problems. We are the FATTEST country in the WORLD, we overtook America last year.

I find it more offensive that I live in the fattest country in the world and its wrong to talk about disgusting stuff that happens to morbidly obese people.

I find it genuinely interesting that people have a problem with this. Honestly, privacy. Really?

Half the problems in this world would evaporate if you didn’t have fat people with an over-inflated sense of entitlement seeking special treatment … Oh I can’t help being fat, it’s not my fault. It’s genetic, it’s a condition, it was my mummy and daddy’s fault … Actually who cares what excuse people make … fat people are funny. The way the wobble and swagger and eat stuff like Kispy-Creme doughnuts but wash them down with a diet-coke …

See. That’s offensive. The OP – that’s not offensive. Get a grip on reality people … before you slide off.

ProudTenant said :

I cannot believe you people think that what this idiot nurse has done is acceptable.

“Fat” people, as you say, deserve 100% privacy, and this fool’s blog decreases that privacy level somewhat, don’t you think?

I fail to see how anyone’s privacy has been decreased with no identifying information.

If it was YOU that was fat and treated by this nurse at Canberra Hospital, and if it was YOU that was reading his blog, wouldn’t you feel a little annoyed if you identified yourself in his blog?

If I’d managed to lose a remote control in myself and he found it then I’d probably be fairly ashamed, but that’s hardly his fault is it? Even if it doesn’t motivate me to lose weight, it might remind where to look for things when I’ve lost them, or at least give some useful basic hygiene pointers.

Whatever happened to the old “need to know” principle. Why did we need to know what this bigmouth nurse endures at work?

I thought it was an interesting perspective – I had no idea this sort of thing was what nurses experience. I’m not considering nursing as a career but if I was, I’d find reportage like this to be useful datapoints to add to my deliberations. I think your attitude’s prudish in the extreme.

If he doesn’t like his job, get out of nursing.

Waht? Did you actually read the blog at all? I saw no evidence whatsoever that he doesn’t enjoy his job. All I see here is evidence you’d like to close your eyes and ears to what goes on outside your little slice of life. Wake up – it’s a big world with far more than you can imagine happening in it all the time.

All those who have a concern over privacy, perhaps consider never visiting a blog site, or information sharing site such as this one……

Happens everywhere on the Internets, that’s life deal with it.

Smokers are riducled too. and they are denied transplants by surgeons. We need to know they are smokers so we can victimise them.

There, that is a hole in your arguement.

As he (O.Blogger) has said – he’s not ridiculing them he just found it interesting that people could have such things lost in their person. It’s probably the comments from other people on his blog (about smells etc) that are more hurtful. Woody – given how long this guy’s been posting for and the content of other posts I’m not sure he’s going anywhere particularly soon…

and of course everything written in the guys blog is true.
This is the Internet, nothing is ever written that isn’t exaggerated.

I think the really unethical aspect is that it is fundamentally opposed to the nature of nursing, which is meant to be a caring profession. Making fun of their predicament in a public and permanent place (nothing dies on the net) is a really horrid thing to do. I realise that no nurse feels like Florence Nightingale every second, and I don’t have a problem if they blow off steam privately.(and not in writing), but not like that.

From the Code of Professional Conduct for Nurses in Australia, issued by the Australian Nursing and Midwifery Council:

The nursing profession expects that nurses will conduct themselves personally and professionally in a way that will maintain public trust and con?dence in the profession. Nurses have a responsibility to the individual, society, and the profession to provide safe and competent nursing care which is responsive to individual,group and community needs, and the profession.

Plus some other minor pleasantries all of you expect would apply to you but not fat people: treating personal information obtained in a professional capacity as confidential; restricting information obtained in a professional capacity to appropriate personnel and settings, and to professional purposes; acknowledging that there exists a power imbalance which makes the individual vulnerable and open to exploitation (say, by posting humiliating characterisations of a group of patients to generate traffic for your sh.thouse blog as an ego trip).

But on the other hand, lolz fatties amirite?

ewww – love it though. Nothing like a bit of a reminder on a FREEZING monday morning that no matter how cold it is, the morning run/walk is so important.

Snarky said :

ProudTenant said :

I believe it borders on being unethical though.

Why?

See Woody’s post above. He has hit the nail on the head.

I cannot believe you people think that what this idiot nurse has done is acceptable.

“Fat” people, as you say, deserve 100% privacy, and this fool’s blog decreases that privacy level somewhat, don’t you think?

If it was YOU that was fat and treated by this nurse at Canberra Hospital, and if it was YOU that was reading his blog, wouldn’t you feel a little annoyed if you identified yourself in his blog?

Whatever happened to the old “need to know” principle. Why did we need to know what this bigmouth nurse endures at work?

If he doesn’t like his job, get out of nursing.

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

You can’t identify the patient/s, so what’s the problem?

Oh, wow. You’re a cop, right? And you can’t see what the problem is here?

We know his name. We have his photo. We know he works in a Canberra hospital. So you’re Joe Smith, Fat Person, and you rock up at hospital for treatment, and you realise this guy is your nurse – a guy who you know thinks it’s ok to hold fat people up for ridicule and objects of disgust. Or you’re Joe Smith, Fat Person, and you’ve just read this post and realised that your nurse has been discussing your case history in a public place.

It’d be like you running a blog where you espoused your views on, say, victims of domestic violence (hopeless losers, why don’t they just leave, probably had it coming, god knows I’d like to smack some of them), and then expected to be able to rock up at the next such case with a straight face.

I give it a week for this guy’s blog to disappear.

Or you are Joe Smith, Fat Bloke, and you wake up to yourself one day and realise everyone else is paying the price for you being disgustingly morbidly obese ( and it is disgusting if you are fat enough to losse stuff in your pork rolls. So you get your fat arse out from behind the keyboard, walk around the block a couple of times adn try to do something about it.

Yes it will hurt, yes it is suckful, yes I have recently lost a bunch of weight through exercise adn good diet. I was never fa enough to have big fat rolls, more of a belly, but I know that is sucks to try and lose the weight. But seriously, if you aren’t going to make the effort, expect to be laughed at.

Who cares? Fat people should be forced to suffer our laughter.

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

How very professional of him to share.

Why – what’s the problem?

ProudTenant said :

knuckles said :

He hasn’t given any personal details of the patients so no confidentially requirements have been broken. Get over yourselves.

I believe it borders on being unethical though.

how? what is unethical about it? its a list of crap (literal and figurative) that he has found in folds of fat… whose confidentiality or privacy is being breached?

How is it unethical?

I see it as he is trying to make obese people aware. The need to clean out their fatrolls. They never know what they’ll find.

You can’t identify the patient/s, so what’s the problem?

Oh, wow. You’re a cop, right? And you can’t see what the problem is here?

We know his name. We have his photo. We know he works in a Canberra hospital. So you’re Joe Smith, Fat Person, and you rock up at hospital for treatment, and you realise this guy is your nurse – a guy who you know thinks it’s ok to hold fat people up for ridicule and objects of disgust. Or you’re Joe Smith, Fat Person, and you’ve just read this post and realised that your nurse has been discussing your case history in a public place.

It’d be like you running a blog where you espoused your views on, say, victims of domestic violence (hopeless losers, why don’t they just leave, probably had it coming, god knows I’d like to smack some of them), and then expected to be able to rock up at the next such case with a straight face.

I give it a week for this guy’s blog to disappear.

ProudTenant said:

“I believe it borders on being unethical though.”

+1 to Julia for standing up for pragmatism as opposed to political correctness. But would still not vote for LP.

These days, if you hide from the facts about anything, they will eventually find you. Best to be upfront and acknowledge these, no matter how unpalatable and move on.

Who on RiotACT signed up to prefer ignorance to informed knowledge?

Offbeat, yes. Bad taste, no. Unless…

Not squeamish about truth.

ProudTenant said :

I believe it borders on being unethical though.

Why?

knuckles said :

He hasn’t given any personal details of the patients so no confidentially requirements have been broken. Get over yourselves.

I believe it borders on being unethical though.

He hasn’t given any personal details of the patients so no confidentially requirements have been broken. Get over yourselves.

You can’t identify the patient/s, so what’s the problem?

Waiting For Godot said :

Obviously doctor/patient confidentiality doesn’t extend to nurses.

no-one was named – jog on

I often leave Juicy Fruit in my fat rolls overnight. Better than the bedpost, where all sorts of creepy crawlies get to sh!t over it. Disgusting.

Obviously doctor/patient confidentiality doesn’t extend to nurses.

How very professional of him to share.