11 September 2024

ACT Government maintains fossil-fuel ban still good to go despite slowing EV sales

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EV chargers in the city

New fast chargers in Hobart Place, Civic. Photo: James Coleman.

Another car maker has joined a growing list scaling back plans to go fully electric, but the ACT Government says this changes nothing on its plan to ban the sale of new petrol and diesel vehicles come 2035.

Volvo Cars previously had plans to only offer EVs across its range by 2035, but last week the company announced “adjusted electrification ambitions”.

It now aims for EVs to make up 90 to 100 per cent of its global sales by 2035, with the remaining 10 per cent to be made up of hybrids.

“We are resolute in our belief that our future is electric,” CEO Jim Rowan said.

“However, it is clear that the transition to electrification will not be linear, and customers and markets are moving at different speeds.”

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It follows in the footsteps of other brands like Mercedes-Benz, which has ditched its 2030 EV-only goal for a more flexible strategy “where market conditions and customers will set the pace of transformation”.

General Motors, Ford and Volkswagen have nearly all said the same in recent months.

Closer to home, the latest sales data from the Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries (FCAI) for August revealed EV sales are still on the rise but have slowed.

EVs are up 11.6 per cent so far this year but down 15.6 per cent last month compared to August 2023.

The decline was primarily driven by Tesla, former EV king, but down 27.7 per cent last month and down 14.4 per cent year-to-date – that’s despite slashing the price of its Model Y by $10,000 in the first half of this year.

Volvo EX30

Volvo Cars has “adjusted” its EV sales targets to 90 per cent global volume by 2030. Photo: James Coleman.

Meanwhile, the ACT is set to hit 10,000 new EV registrations by November, according to the ACT branch of the Australian Electric Vehicle Association (AEVA ACT).

AEVA ACT hosted an EV show-and-shine display at CIT’s EV workshop in Fyshwick last Sunday (8 September) to mark ‘World EV Day’.

Advocacy lead Paul Wayper says more than 100 vehicles turned up, representing a cross-section of brands like Tesla, BYD, Hyundai, Kia, MG, MINI, and even DeLorean, in the form of a 1980s DMC-12 converted to run on battery power.

He adds that it also attracted plenty of those interested in making the switch to an EV.

“This is part of what it’s all about – giving people the chance to see the wide variety of cars available now.”

Electric DeLorean

Where we’re going we don’t need to … petrol. Photo: Tesla Owners Club of Australia, Facebook.

EV registrations in the ACT have grown from 446 in January 2020 to over 9100 today, and Paul doesn’t see it going anywhere but up.

“The graph that we see is pretty much a straight line upward,” he says.

“Just because it’s not exponential growth, doesn’t mean it’s not growth. Sales are continuing, and yes, there was a bit of a downturn in August, but that’s exactly the downturn you get around this time of year as everyone does their budgets again.”

That said, the consensus among members of AEVA ACT is that “EVs aren’t the answer” and only work hand in hand with improvements to public transport, shared path networks and city designs.

“We need to think about those who can’t afford an EV or can’t afford to put solar panels on their roof,” Paul says.

“Definitely, there is no one magic bullet here. It’s going to be a long process to find the right solution for each person.”

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The Australian Automotive Dealer Association (AADA), the peak advocacy body for the nation’s car dealerships, expects pure petrol and diesel vehicles to “make up a lower proportion of sales”, while a combination of hybrid, plug-in hybrid and EVs “make up a greater percentage” over the next five to 10 years.

“How fast this occurs depends on a number of factors, some of which can be controlled by government such as the availability of EV purchase incentives for consumers and the development of reliable public charging network,” CEO James Voortman says.

Mr Voortman agrees the country needs a “national approach” to lowering emissions, but this should be in the hands of the Commonwealth government.

“Banning the sale of petrol and diesel vehicles at the territory level is simply unworkable,” he says.

EVs in car park

EVs arranged outside the EV workshop at CIT Fyshwick. Photo: James Coleman.

He also argues the door should be left open for other technologies.

“Car manufacturers have teams of very skilled engineers working on solutions such as better EV batteries, hydrogen technology and low-carbon fuels.

“The future will see the deployment of multiple technologies suited to different vehicle types all working together to significantly lower vehicle emissions.”

In a statement to Region, the ACT Government described Volvo’s adjusted targets as a “minor change” and one that “will not impact the ACT’s ability to meet its 2030 and 2035 light zero-emissions vehicles (ZEVs) sales targets”.

“The European Union has a target of 100 per cent of cars sold from 2035 as being ZEVs and Volvo Cars intend on meeting that requirement.”

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Leon Arundell3:00 pm 16 Sep 24

I predict that in 2035 Queanbeyan’s car dealers will see a boom in sales.

First fossil fuel cars, then EVs, for nothing else fits the 15-minute city plan better.
From there, walk, ride or catch public transport to your heart’s content, just don’t stray more than what you’re allowed to stray from home.
Regarding the public transport – and other examples, too, of course, including the possibility of spending a day in the country – this will all depend on how well you abide by the new religion, as gauged by the things you do and say online, tallied by the ever-watchful eye of digital ID, etc.
Nothing said here hasn’t already come out in the mainstream media, and if the (stated) concern for the planet and minorities is real, then all of what I’ve said will eventually come to pass, for why would it not if the plans are already in place, and the (stated) concern, as I said, is very real.
From here, it’s just a question of whether this is a good or bad thing. To start to come up with an answer to this riddle, you have to decide whether you trust the politicians or not.
In looking at the past, there is little evidence for why anyone should. And if it should be said that they’ve made last however long relatively free, peaceful and prosperous (for mainly the West), then what if that was only to help get things to this point, where the technocratic gulag can finally close in, creating one of the worst injustices of all of all time?
On the balance of probabilities, the latter is infinitely more likely, and that’s without even going into other thinking tools available, which confirm it, such as (deeper) logic, history, psychology and science – all dots we have to know enough about and connect

Bright Spark3:59 pm 15 Sep 24

So much to say, so little time….

At least there are trusted organisations out there who continue to seriously and scientifically call out this government’s flaw-ridden modelling for the transition to 100% electrification….

* The release of the ACT Government Integrated Energy Plan (IEP) has sparked further debate, particularly regarding the lack of costings and modelling for apartment and townhouse residents, a segment that represents around 40-50% of Canberra’s housing Census, 2021.

* The IEP has been described as having a ‘tick box’ consultation process, failing to adequately address community concerns.

* A significant amount of territory land is controlled by the National Capital Authority. This land is not impacted by the IEP, therefore gas connections are still being applied for and approved. MPA members advise that there are several new and significant developments on NCA land which will have new gas appliances and connections. This situation will continue indefinitely.

* Research by Senator Pocock’s office through the Parliamentary Library indicates a higher cost to electrify than figures publicly released, and no figures have been released for apartment dwellers.

https://mailchi.mp/masterplumbersact.asn.au/alert-no91-media-release-act-gov-doubling-down-on-costly-mistake?e=3aa56d7e1a

Capital Retro1:47 pm 15 Sep 24

“I support…….”
“we want……..”
By all means support what you want but don’t included me in what you want.

Consumers should be free to choose the type of vehicle they want to purchase. A ban limits personal freedom and choice. Of course, a socialist government like this Labor/Greens Government doesn’t like people deciding for themselves, they will decide for us. If EVs are so wonderful people will buy them. EVs have no second-hand value because the batteries only last a certain amount of years and cost thousands of dollars to be replaced.

C’mon Labor. Everybody knows that the only way forward is horse and buggy. Providing of course the diets of horses are governed so that methane is eliminated.
See………..simple.

Leon Arundell3:01 pm 16 Sep 24

If you follow behind a horse, you will discover that methane is not the only thing that it ‘eliminates.’ 😉

Barr, Barr, black sheep have you any wool? Yes Sir, Yes Sir, three bags full. No matter what the statistics say, no matter how many people say NO, these HERD MENTALLY sheep follow the green sheep in flock of lemmings. If there is no EV infrastructure, then these EV policies are maggot filled daggy ideas …. butt what else could we expect from Labor/Greens … If you follow a sheep, what exactly is your view? That sums up the Labor/Greens green sheep herd mentality. Ridiculous. Everything is Barr, Barr, Banned.

@Bindi
“HERD MENTALLY” (though I think you mean ‘herd mentality’) is exactly how representational democracy works. Or is it only herd mentality when your mob don’t get voted in?

Lol, that was the automatic correction on my phone. I meant to say Terd Mentality. Herd Mentality does not refer to representational democracy, because democracy does not exist if the Government refuses to listen to those who elected them. Herd Mentality refers to blindly following a “group think” reality construct without critically reflecting, considering alternate paradigms, usually due to failure and inability to see big picture perspectives, and essentially swallowing the shytakki mushrooms due to licking the international hegemony in the rear to be “good boys/girls/its. I hope that helps clarify my thinking, which is not your thinking, as I don’t actually define myself by a mob nor do I do mob mentality. How ridiculous. Ho hum.

@Bindi
“… the Government refuses to listen to those who elected them.”
Don’t you mean – “the Government refuses to listen to me – even though I didn’t vote for them”.

“Herd Mentality refers to blindly following a “group think” reality construct without critically reflecting”
… and that is how many electors vote in our representative democracy. It’s why they introduced ‘above the line’ voting for the Senate – so that people can mark one box without consciously deciding where their preferences are distributed.

Craig Applegate3:50 am 15 Sep 24

I support the 2035 ban on the sale of brand new petrol & diesel cars. Actually, I think the ban should apply from 2030, as we want no fossil fuel cars to be still on the road by 2050.

Who is ‘we’, the majority is not your ‘we’? Besides EVangelists, many people don’t actually give a hoot. I definitely want fossil fueled vehicles on the road into the far future. As it’s heading now, EV powered vehicles will be one type of of many ways vehicle will be ‘powered’ into the future. That’s how it should be.

EVs will soon become as popular as video cassettes.
This is disputes government constant lies about the product from being NetZero etc
Carbon dioxide as climate changer has been descredited as CO2 is 4% of atmosphere,97% natural & only 3% by us.
Hybrids also so much more problems with token battery communicating with gas engine.

“discredited” by whom? RF Johns on the Riotact? Better let nearly 100% of climate scientists know of your remarkable discoveries.

You could start by reminding them that CO2 comprises about 4% of atmospheric gasses. They’ll be amazed by your insight.

Incidental Tourist9:17 pm 14 Sep 24

If you choose between luxury car and EV for everyday short city commuting then EV is very competitive. For all other trips conventional cars beat EV by all criteria.

Also 10 year old EV value is next to junk given the limited battery lifetime. 10 year old petrol cars still have a lot of life left in them.

Another person apparently too foolish even to look up car resale sites before posting.

Yolanthe Daly5:54 pm 15 Sep 24

any EV is likely to be going strong after 750k on the road. battery life is an estimated 10 yrs and will cost a fraction of any ICE repairs and motor replacement you would need in that time.
An EV is a motor with 21st century design and tech. You will also spend thousands less on fuel, on maintenance and incidentals : no need for gaskets, oil, air etc. Let alone the cost to health of air pollutants burning fossil fuels.
The only criteria an ICE can beat any EV on is that they are highly supported by an expensive fossil fuel infrastructure with global supply chains that provide fuel needs to thousands of Aus. service stations every few km, and subterranean mega-petrol tanks sunk along our freeways.
That is something that the multi national companies will fight hard to maintain by peddling fearmongering to those scared of change.

EVs are fun to drive, cheap to run and safer than sitting on 60litres of combustible liquid and so much cleaner, no comparison with the inefficient and polluting internal combustion engine that was invented in the 19th century.

Name me one vehicle manufacturer that is NOT scaling back their once lofty EV plans?
A ten year old EV with a failing battery will have zero demmand on the open market, many of these cars will end up in scrap as there is no replacement battery options.
Time will show us all that these vehicles will become anything but environmentally friendly.
Solar panels as well, everyone jumped on these like lemmings but unless you are home when the sun is shining they are now cost prohibitive.

Andrew Cooke8:21 am 15 Sep 24

Do you have any facts to back up these assertions? A quick google suggests a 2014 Model S is selling for a comparable price to a ten year old BMW 5 series showing similar depreciation. Similarly after 10 years the batteries are reporting a loss in capacity of about 10%, which would be roughly in line with the changes to an internal combustion engine.

I think the timeline for the ban on ICE cars is achievable. Battery technology is improving which will only drive the new car price down while increasing range. And you know what, if in 2035 you can’t afford a brand new car, buy second hand, I’m sure there will be lots of used combustion engine cars running for a long time after that.

wildturkeycanoe7:38 pm 14 Sep 24

Who buys new cars in Canberra anyway, when the local mark-up makes buying from interstate a much cheaper option anyway?
As Canberra’s power grid begins to struggle and fail to provide for all the extra load from EVs, electric buses, electric trams and more electric appliances as we go towards no-gas, I think those holding on to petrol and diesel cars will feel happy knowing they have some independence from the government’s grip.

The reality is that EV sales are tanking & automakers that went hard down the EV path are struggling while those that focussed on internal combustion & hybrids like Toyota & Mazda are doing ok.

Until they come down in price & work out home charging for people in apartment units EV’s will struggle.

GrumpyGrandpa5:46 pm 14 Sep 24

Banning the sale of new ICE vehicles in the ACT from 2035 (11 years from now), might be a bit problematic for the ACT Government.
Like any new technology, that appeared to be the new wonder, cure all, sometimes the expectations don’t materialise.
Despite all of the fanfare, concerns are being raised, in particular about, not so the likelihood of EV fires, but the consequences of EV fires (and their thermal runaway).
The following article from News.com highlights those.issues and how in China, there have been bans on EVs in underground carparks.
https://www.news.com.au/technology/motoring/on-the-road/china-bans-electric-vehicles-from-underground-carparks/news-story/b7c07b8e942cb3076b704029e327d6cf

Tom McLuckie2:21 pm 14 Sep 24

So what about an offset scheme so you can still drive an ICE vehicle? This is what the allows the ACT Government to claim it is zero emissions when it quite simply is not (both Greens and Labor constantly push this position).
I have 16.4kw of solar, and export nearly 10 times more than I use from grid.
So I should, under their approach, be able to run 15 ice vehicles and still be saving the planet because I’m offsetting? Of course, that is a ridiculous statement, just like theirs claiming Canberra and our transport system is zero emissions. Such hypocrites, yet they will proceed with a ban as we experience a cost of living crisis, push up rates, land tax and rents while the people of the ACT are told it’s because they are progressive and saving the planet. Totally nonsense!

I still don’t believe it is the job of government to force people into electric vehicles. They should limit their attention to maintaining the ACT and public amenities and services, rather than forcing ideology on people.

Martin Keast3:27 pm 14 Sep 24

You are quite right, Ken. Government should not be in the role of incetivising vehicle purchases. They should be focussing on their core jurisdiction of justice and community infrastrucure, rubbish collection and so on, not this sort of interventionist approach.

You’re dead right Ken it’s not their job. It will make bugger all difference on a world scale and towing anything with them is utterly useless if not illegal from a Weight perspective. I’ll never buy one.

Andrew Cooke2:25 pm 16 Sep 24

What? Towing with an electric vehicle is useless? Unless you’re comparing a Tesla Model 3 to a Landcruiser you’ve got rocks in your head.

EV’S. Good for the Capital cities and absolutely useless anywhere else. At 5 to 7 years old they are worth scrap value because to replace the battery will cost more than the vehicle is worth. Hopeless, useless pieces of junk and yet the Canberra government is going to attempt a mandate for them in 11 years time. Yet another instance of the ACT being totally out of touch with the rest of Australia.

More misinformation. EV batteries are typically warrantied for 8 years, and that’s typically only if they’ve dropped below 70% efficiency or failed out-right. The original Tesla Model S are only just hitting that age now, and I only recall reading about a few battery packs (in the US) needing replacement at cost to the buyer – still cheaper than a new car (including an ICE one).
My Model 3 is almost 4 years old and by my calculations from on-board data it still has 97% efficiency.

StuartM way too much FACT in your reply to Rob … let him stay out of touch with reality … eventually he will come to the realisation that what he read on Facebook is FAKE NEWS spread by the oil industry.

I see parts of China are banning EVs from enter all underground carparks due to safety reasons.

Rob repeats this rubbish regularly. A glance at Carsales will show ten year old Teslas or even Nissans with plenty of battery are available at normal market prices, but Rob does not like information. He likes to snuffle around in his old garbage.

Byline – EV evangelist pays, $50k for an EV. It will save money the evangelist says. Fossil fuel realist pays $15k for a good second hand hybrid. Already in front for maybe 60,000 kilometres before that EV evangelist breaks even. But let’s not stop there, the hybrid will could last another 20 years. The EV will be polluting landfill with its poisonous battery

Never let a little drama soil what passes as accuracy.

The hallo hybrid runs on petroleum, oil and oh – there would be that battery in there too.

Petrochemical plants pollute to make the liquid fuels. Huge tankers pollute to get the fuel to Australia, then once consumed that oil usually end up as land fill.

Oh and that battery ? Of course the hallo hybrid wouldn’t dream of putting its battery into landfill!

StuartM, just recently sold my 50 year old Datsun. That’s the life expectancy of five EVs. The fellow I sold it to is a Datsun fanatic, so he is likely to keep it for another ten years at least

I know you say some weird things Futureproof but I did not expect you to come up with such an obviously absurd comparison.

Have a look at Carsales. Limit your searches to EV and hybrid between $14800 and $15000. Would you like a Prius hybrid with 136k on the clock already to last you another 20 years? A tiny Toyota Vitz would compare for mileage with a roomier, more modern Leaf EV at the same price, and the latter is instantly cheaper to run, no waiting. Presumably you have factored in both battery replacement and ICE maintenance in your 20 year hybridised horizon? What 30 year old cars today do you consider fabulous value for money, other than as a toy? Ever heard of EV battery recycling? Reuse for storage where demands are less stressful than in a vehicle? The main “problem” with reuse/recycling is that not enough batteries are wearing out yet! These things will become commonplace. That is part of industrial progress.

Try a little enlightenment before blathering again.

how much does a replacement battery pack cost vs the value of the car itself at the time the battery pack needs replacing?

there’s a reason insurance companies write off cars when the cost of repairs exceeds the value of the car.

I guess its ok to be economically irresponsible when repairing an EV because its saving the planet.

Byline, you should take off your evangelist glasses. EV batteries are going to be a big threat to the environment, but that’s OK for your lot, where ideology trumps everything

@Futureproof
” EV batteries are going to be a big threat to the environment …”
How so, Fp? You haven’t heard of the repurposing initiatives for EV batteries have you? That would require a little research on your part – the findings of which might be contrary your ideology, which you would like to trump (how appropriate is that ‘pun’?) everything.

Futureproof, evangelism is the province of those selling falsehoods that EV batteries are a “big” threat to the environment, implicitly bigger than extracting and burning fossil fuels.

EV batteries are reusable, as I said. They are already recycled in Australia and overseas. Lithium itself can be recycled endlessly.

Knowledge is not your thing, is it Futureproof, not when your ideology opposes it.

By the way, as I have disclosed previously I do not own an EV.

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