ACT only jurisdiction to return resounding Yes vote as official counting continues

Now that the ACT has voted in favour of the Voice in a landslide, and almost all sides of ACT politics supported it, what is stopping the ACT from emulating South Australia and immediately legislating for a Voice to the ACT Legislative Assembly and Executive? Actions speak a lot louder than words.

Hardly surprising with the public servants being totally out of touch with the rest of the country. This referendum was flawed since it began but clearly all the warm and fuzzy non specific propaganda and constant contradictions didn’t sway those with no real understanding of life in the outback. Best go and have a soy milk decaf latte in the artisan bakery.

Why didn’t the Labor Party look at the Canadian solution “the full clause of the Constitution Act reads:35. (1) The existing aboriginal and treaty rights of the aboriginal peoples are hereby recognized and affirmed. (2) in this Act, Aboriginal Peoples of Canada include the Indian, Inuit and Metis peoples of Canada” If only the question read — Should Recognition of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples be recognized In the Constitution–I would have voted YES.
“Another key example of delegated self-government is Canada’s Nunavut Parliament of Inuit people. This parliament has powers covering the administration justice, education and local taxation”. In the Australian proposal no details were provided on how members of the Voice would be chosen or how it would operate and for that reasons I voted NO . I am not a racist–I have been to the TSI and 5 Aboriginal Communities for several days and nights–not like our PM who drops in for a cuppa.

The ACT voted similarly to other city areas such as inner Melbourne/Sydney and Newcastle.

We simply don’t have any true regional or rural areas like the other states do.

Our super progressive electorate of Canberra was the 4th highest in the nation.

ACT just made the case to move the fed further away from canberra. Illegal drugs and now going against the vote.
Clearly this was a poll based on income. Those that earn enough not to care voted for the platitude.
Everyone else decided that $400 million and cheating was too much to pay.

“We are the progressive heart of the nation.”
Thank heavens the other 60% used their heads.

Yes canberra academic ideas have total control of the aboriginal agenda. Theirpolicy have been a massive failure and all the really do is lock in another generation to the cycle. The crow on about a voice , but won’t listen to the aboriginals on the ground that want a tougher approach. 400million wasted , the could have built several good boarding schools and provide the kids with a safe play to learn and sleep . I doubt any Ken berans will admit they on the wrong side of history

The laws of successful change were ignored with a terribly predictable result. You have to take people with you, which means early consultation, explanation and discussion, well before you pose the challenging questions & expectations. You have to anticipate the fears of people and provide answers that are real solutions to any problems, not just try to sell your concept without first consulting others and considering their needs.

A fully constructed solution by a small proportion of the population who understand the issues from their own perspectives does not mean others with different perspectives will see things as they do. The nature of the problems must be fully identified and understood by all stakeholders or they’ll reject the change. In organisational change, this is called identifying the ‘burning platform’ that needs to be extinguished. Truth telling must come first.

People need to be clear on the nature of the problems, their causes and the potential solutions as well as the reasons that those options are worth considering, the benefits they’ll bring and the costs that will be prevented by opting for them.

Another thing that wasn’t mentioned was the vote in the Northern Territory. The area of Australia that has the highest percentage of aboriginal people to their total population. If the YES crowd is to believed and this is highly popular with native people, this should lead to a higher YES vote than in other areas right?

Last I checked the NT votes 38% YES and 62% no. Combine this with the only statistically relevant polling of the attitudes of indigenous people which was released in the week before the referendum which showed 58% support.

It really makes you think when they can barely convince half of the aboriginal people that it’s a good idea and the largest population center, overwhelmingly voted NO…

“He acknowledged a “vast majority” of referendums in the past have failed, but took heart that the debate in the Territory was “largely conducted without anger and hate”.

Wow, if he actually believes that, he should step outside his echo chamber occasionally and talk to people on the street as there has been nothing about this debate that has remained civil from the moment the topic was proposed.

“enough has been tallied to show that Australia has rejected Indigenous constitutional recognition.”

Nope, not at all. If the YES campaign was simply asking for constitutional recognition then it would have sailed through with bipartisan support and you know it.

What WAS rejected was what they were hiding behind the innocuous title of “constitutional recognition”. What they really wanted which was a special activist group guaranteed by the constitution, who’s sole purpose for existing is the advocacy of one race only, inserted into the middle of the political process.

They knew that if they fronted with that they would be handed an absolute crushing defeat (much worse than the one they got) so they tried to hide it behind something inoffensive and thought the Australian people would be stupid enough to just buy their highly dishonest proposition on face value and not ask any questions.

Thankfully they were wrong.

Shows just how out of step we all are with the rest of Australia. Nothing to crowe about here. The postcodes that did strongly support yes were the wealthy upper class, not the middle class working poor that much of an Australia now is, and would ultimately have to pay for all these themes.
Albanese squandered this once in a generation opportunity by putting forward a poorly designed idea that was grossly lacking in detail. Those that did vote yes obviously have greater blind faith in the Labor party and in our ability to deliver on big policies.
Me, I’m always skeptical of anything big mingling companies, big banks, and big airlines try and force us to support.
Qantas in particular; why would a company that is in court for mistreating it’s staff, is also in court for mistreating it’s customers, and is also before the senate for manipulating and blocking a competitive market.. do anything just for the social good of it? I have no trust in any of these large businesses, and they have no place in manipulating our democracy (or at least attempting to!).

The Rumpus is spot on. Totally out of touch with the rest of Australia and we are the home of the machinery of Federal (and ACT) Govt. It is no wonder the Gap fails to close any time soon. Just do your job and creatively, go to outlying places and collaborate. Not enough has been said about this but we do NOT need Reconciliation. We had little to do with the past, so give that one up too. Get over it. Those that want to get on will do so, and those that can’t be bothered will always be left behind.

Yep true a resounding Yes vote in the ACT, but more than countered by a resounding NO vote everywhere else. And I stress ” everywhere else.” That was Albanese’s problem that he took far too much notice of the always left of centre Canberra bubble and other city-centric electorates. If Albanese had bothered to travel to the regions and actually listened those electorates concerns he may have acted differently, but I doubt it.

Too many public servants hanging around the café, waiting for their soy latte

This is a good time to reflect on larger implications of the clear-cut results.

Over four decades or more, the “progressive left” have had a monopoly over the indigenous policy space. They have become a kind of priesthood whose pronouncements come from supposed transcendental truth (Grievance Studies 101, it’s called).

Yet, over the reign of this divine priesthood, the “gap” has widened ever further. In short, they’ve spectacularly botched it. Clearly their “divine” knowledge is a crock. But do you think the priestly caste have the humility for introspection about their dogma? Of course not! Their schtick is, as their ship sinks, to blame all their failures on “racism”. They more they fail, the more they scream racism: “It’s racism wot dunnit, it’s the rotten lower classes. Not us, we’re *always* right.”

I mention class, because there’s now evidence, from the referendum results, that this is clearly a social class phenomenon. The only places “yes” got up, i.e. the fashionable dogma of the priesthood, were the wealthy inner-urban capital city seats, and Canberra. Exactly where the priesthood lives. Exactly the wealthiest enclaves of Australian society. The “progressive left” priesthood is a ruling class elite, there’s now no doubt about it.

And when the priesthood and their acolytes rubbish everyone who is sceptical of their claims as “racist”, “”bigoted”, ignorant”, “brainwashed”, “reprehensible” and so on, we now have no doubt, this is the social class behaviour of “punching down”, of class-based contempt dressed up as noblesse-oblige concern for the oppressed. Because, the priesthood says, if you’re not with us, you’re a fascist misinformation-addled conspiracy theorist who hates the oppressed. That’s the cultural capital the ruling class used up in their campaign. No rational arguments, just relentless punching down on the lower classes, relentless personal attacks. And now, those of us who don’t believe the priesthood have all felt the sting of the lash, and we’ve learned how to handle it. So “progressive” ruling elites, “progressively” maintaining and consolidating your class privilege, hear this: you’ve called the majority of the country racist ignorant bigots, and we weren’t bullied into submission to you.

So come on, members of the priestly caste and apologists for the priesthood (combined, that’s the majority here in Canberra): reply back that I’m an ignorant bigot talking out of turn, acting above my place in society, evidently insane for challenging the priestly truths. Come on. Because I’ve got *lots* more to say about you.

This was one of the easiest votes I’ve ever had. As someone who voted YES in the all-white referendum to end Apartheid, voting NO was easy. All through this “campaign” I heard things that made my NO vote easier and easier. Explain your reasoning clearly and try to take everyone with you. Oh, and try not to call them (the voters) racists. That undermines your argument.

The problem is that the entire voice debate became one big political mud fight rather than a sound debate about the benefits, disadvantages and content of the voice.

Canberra – out of touch wealthy elites, who thought voting yes would give them morale standing.

The ACT has proven once again how a false economy, sheltered from the real world, populated by slew of ignorant well to do public servants, devoid of an original thought has no clue about the real world. Maybe the place should wake up to itself. Even the people you apparently voted for this on behalf of, didn’t want it. Dial down the moronic, uninformed empathy driven, socialist nonsense.

I don’t get it. Counted BEAN votes from 3 ballot boxes. Our box was about 1,800 NO to 1,500 YES. Same with the other tables. More NO than YES. What gives?

Canberrans are wrong thinking we are the most inclusive and progressive jurisdiction because the result for Canberra was YES. Educate yourselves and delve into the results by electorate. Other Capital cities also voted majority YES. Overwhelmingly, It’s the regions that voted NO. The simple fact is we City Slickers in our cosy existance have a different view of the world compared to regional Australia.

I am disappointed but not surprised, given how toxic the debate became. I wonder if the 1967 referendum had been held today, would it have also failed. How did we go so far backwards?

I’m sure I will get taken to task by fellow Canberrans, but as evidenced by other news sites, we are being lambasted for being out of step with the rest of the country. Maybe we need to get out of our bubble and see how the real world (country) operates. Personally I am over the left wing woke society we have become.

The communities with the highest Indigenous populations in the country resoundingly rejected the Voice to Parliament referendum, despite the Yes campaign consistently referencing outdated polls which suggested overwhelming indigenous support. The highest % No votes were in WA, Qld and NT. Clearly the high Yes vote in the ACT shows just how out of touch Canberra Yes voters are with the rest of Australia and with regional indigenous voters. So the claims of 80% indigenous support were just misinformation, distortions or outright lies on the part of the misguided Yes campaign. This will be remembered as the doomed, devisive and deceptive referendum we did not have to have.