9 February 2025

Bank tells 80-year-old woman to 'call Lifeline' after she lost $34,000 in alleged scam

| Shri Gayathirie Rajen
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Caroline Buchan fell victim to a highly elaborate scam. Photo: Shri Gayathirie Rajen.

The National Australia Bank (NAB) told an 80-year-old Wagga customer to “contact Lifeline” after she reported that a man claiming to be an NAB official allegedly scammed her out of $34,000 from her bank account.

The banking giant also told retired businesswoman Caroline Buchan, a loyal NAB customer of 45 years, that it couldn’t recover and refund her money.

“I am very angry with the bank because they wiped their hands of this. They should be responsible for the money that we put in their trust,” Ms Buchan told Region.

“They were essentially saying, ‘We’ve done all we can but if you want help with your mental issues … I mean honestly and truly, who the hell do they think we are?

“All I want is my money back.”

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She said she felt like an “imbecile” and was left “insulted” after being told to contact Lifeline.

Region asked NAB why it directed Ms Buchan to a suicide prevention service and why it was unable to recover her money. The bank refused to answer, claiming it couldn’t comment on individual cases.

“Scams are a global epidemic. It’s devastating to see the financial and emotional toll they take on people. We need to make Australia a harder place for these criminals to be successful,” general manager NAB group investigations Chris Sheehan said.

“We will always do whatever we can to try and recover stolen money, including working with other banks involved where necessary. Sadly, in a lot of instances, this can be extremely difficult, once funds are often quickly sent overseas or moved to cryptocurrency platforms which are largely unregulated.

“In the past two years, NAB’s introduced a range of initiatives to help detect and prevent scams and we are starting to see some positive signs of this work.”

The email Ms Buchan received from NAB while she was at the branch.

The email Ms Buchan received from NAB while she was at the branch. Photo: Supplied.

The alleged scam

Last year, Ms Buchan said she was manipulated into transferring her money to someone else’s account by a man pretending to be from NAB.

She said it happened after visiting her Wagga NAB branch to reactivate her credit card and online banking, which were blocked while she was overseas. The NAB fraud prevention team helped her with this process.

After leaving the bank, she got a call from someone claiming to be part of the NAB’s fraud prevention team.

“That is why I believe I was almost goaded into believing that it was genuine,” she said. “He told me what my ID number was on the back of my card.”

The caller told her that her account had been comprised and directed her to transfer her funds into another account to protect her money.

While on the phone, she also received emails that looked identical to NAB’s official correspondence directing her to do the same.

She followed the instructions, thinking she was safeguarding her savings.

The fake email Ms Buchan received from the scammer appears almost identical. While the original email was sent from ‘donotreply@nab.com.au’, the fake emails were sent from ‘support@nabsupport.com’. Photo: Supplied.

“At 9:30 pm, NAB realised that something funny had gone on, but it was too late. The money was gone,” Ms Buchan said. “And I felt sick.

“I couldn’t believe it happened. I was traumatised because every time I put up an objection he’d come back with a plausible reason.

“I kept doubting myself the whole time because I had been in the bank, and if I hadn’t, I might have had a different attitude.”

The next morning Ms Buchan spoke with the real fraud department based in Melbourne and questioned how the alleged scammer had access to her ID number.

She said the fraud team member said: “It was easy; anybody can get it”.

“Her voice was kind, but she was giving me a lecture on what I should do and what I shouldn’t do. And she said we never ring you after hours,” Ms Buchan said.

“I didn’t consider 5:30 pm as after hours and they [the fraud line] are 24/7.”

The fake emails also contain NAB’s similar ABN and Australian Credit Licence. Photo: Supplied.

She felt NAB was unhelpful and failed to take responsibility.

“It is so unfair when they’re making huge profits and they should face up to their responsibilities,” Ms Buchan said.

“And if they don’t want to, they should teach people how to avoid getting into these situations.

“The bank is there to provide a service to the community and I don’t believe they are doing it.”

Australia-wide, NAB made a net profit of just under $7 billion in 2024.

Need for reform

Ms Buchan is calling for increased awareness and better security measures and reforms that hold banks accountable for scam losses.

She is in favour of Australia adopting similar policies that were introduced in the UK last year that now require banks to refund scam victims their money within five days.

The letter Ms Buchan received from NAB stating it was unable to recover her money.

The letter Ms Buchan received from NAB stating it was unable to recover her money. Photo: Supplied.

“I’m hoping that if I bring it to the public attention knowing that there are heaps of other people who have gone through something very similar, more people will come out and talk about it.

“We can put some pressure on the banks to stand up to their responsibilities, as they do in Europe and UK.

“Any bank in Australia should conduct regular meetings with their customers, three times a year and have a panel of experts talking to the customers and clients about scamming and fraud.”

Ms Buchan’s matter is now also under a police investigation.

Original Article published by Shri Gayathirie Rajen on Region Riverina.

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Gone are the days of the “Nigerian prince”, wanting to gift you millions of dollars, sends you a poorly designed and worded email, easily spotted as a scam. As the screen shots in the article show, scammers are getting very sophisticated in their presentation and, as others have stated, send their ‘bait’ to hundreds of thousands of people – most of whom ignore it. Unfortunately, by volume of numbers, the ‘bait’ will hit an email recipient for which, by coincidence, the content is relevant. Many of us will have received a security alert notice, from a ‘bank” at which we don’t have an account – easy to ignore, but for those who do have an account it can be problematic. I suspect this scam has probably been perpetuated by one of the Russian cybergangs which are notoriously succsessful at such sophisitication.

The victim felt uneasy but the scammer was convincing. That’s a concern, especially as she waited to allay her suspicions – “The next morning Ms Buchan spoke with the real fraud department”. My approach nowadays, is when in doubt, I ring the institution on their official number (not the one quoted in the communique) and ask to be put through to the relevant section so that I can verify, or otherwise, its bona fides.

This is a very difficult situation. While I have no love for banks and their lack of customer focus and corporate morality, it’s hard to see that NAB are at fault for not refunding the lady, when she has legally (i.e. as the account holder) authorised the transfer of the money to the criminal’s account. If banks, voluntarily or through regulatory compulsion, take responsibility for the result of successful scamming, I can see the situation arising where a new ‘criminal industry’ will evolve – the “I’ve been scammed, please pay me – when they have ‘manufactured’ the scam to deraud the bank”.

Like I said, a difficult situation, and we can’t simply say – “Who would be so foolish as to fall for that scam?” There but for the grace of ….

I was always under the impression, probably mistaken, that banks and other institutions, usually pay up pretty promptly in cases of fraud, so as to maintain confidence in the online financial system.

They do if somebody uses your credit card number to buy stuff, where you had no involvement in the fraud. They, probably rightly, object to being held liable when you assist with getting by all of the safeguards they have put in place.

The banks can really only do so much.

Peter W Herman8:33 pm 08 Feb 25

I have had the same problem withNAB back in 2019
They still tell me tat they can’t find it, but I know that it’s still in their coffers
I have received a call from NAB Liverpool branch asking if I still seek to have it…that was 2 years ago andi am still waiting
NAB are an arrogant bank and should be investigated bythe offiicial bank body, who ever that s these days

Sounds very much like an inside job.

Harry, it probably wasn’t.

It was probably just a phishing scam and this is how phishing works. They throw out thousands upon thousands of messages and they just happen to catch enough people either off guard by luck or making a mistake to turn a profit.

It doesn’t happen that often and banks have gotten good at picking up a lot of this stuff up early. In this case, the lady just got unlucky with the timing of the message making her think it was legit. The scammer probably sent the same message to thousands of others who deleted or ignored it.

And since it’s rare and unlucky I think NAB should help her out here. It’s not like they’re making billions or anything.

Sorry to correct my previous post, the phishing in the case was when they called her (not an email in this case) and were likely pumping her for info whilst sending her “official” looking emails in the background. Hopefully NAB find a way to help this lady out.

Seano, I think you may underestimate the extent of “inside” leaks. It does not have to be direct or even knowing involvement in the scam, but selling information. Note the fact that the printed number on the back of the NAB card was known, and NAB said that was commonplace. It is not a CVV or regularly used. How would so many leak? Most likely a bunch of them sold by employees of NAB, or the card provider, or card manufacturer.

I’m not understating such leaks at all. However, those sorts of leaks are not on an individual basis and would be national news.

She got a call with the right bait at the wrong time. They would have been pumping her for info the second she answered. The best thing people can do in these situations is hang up immediately without saying a word. She’s literally why this sort of phishing works.

As I said it’s sad and I reckon the bank could do more but I don’t believe for a second that it’s an inside job that only affected one individual.

“ are not on an individual basis and would be national news”

False assumption negates the rest.

Canberra Engineer12:05 pm 08 Feb 25

Personal responsibility. She fell for a very obvious scam and that is her fault. An entitled boomer. And it’s very easy to avoid scams. ALWAYS ring the bank on an official number. Don’t accept calls. We’re living in a time when people just don’t want to own their mistakes.

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