Canberra's top cop rules out 'systemic issues' despite spike in corruption and serious misconduct complaints

Pretty much this.

Depends on what you say is “closing ranks” and “protecting corrupt ones.”

Are you saying that any misconduct, no matter the severity, the officer should be named and shamed, even though the benefits of sanctions for educational purposes for outweighs the former?

Or are you saying that there is an inherent and undeniable large scale level of corruption in all police forces that is just ignored by everyone?

I get why people chose to hate police. The media plasters stories of misconduct and corruption at every opportunity. The media will take one interaction out of 1000’s to show a “systemic” failure and inherent problem of corruption.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying they are all angels. I’m not saying none of them are bad, there are shit tradies that actually ruin peoples lives by scamming them out of money and dodgy building, there are dodgy restaurants that kill people through poor hygiene and cooking practices, there are teachers having inappropriate relationships with students, vets abusing animals, etc for them they are isolated individuals, for police it’s they are all bad and just as bad as each other…

I’m saying that the so called “good cops” covering up for and lying for the ones who do the wrong thing is a real problem. It’s a known cultural issue in police forces all over the world. Reporting corruption and misconduct is the biggest career shortener you could imagine.

It’s a known issue, yet it is the most scrutinised job there is? And this issue hasn’t changed, what does that tell you?

You didn’t even answer the question. What do you call corruption and why is it that a problem that exists somewhere else, say police corruption in Cambodia. Is it the same corruption here??

Or police oversight in America, where the counties, states, highways and federal levels all have different forces, how could that oversight be effective??

There is definitely evidence of poor customer service, when you’re treated unfairly by your bosses, you generally pass that on. If the officers were paid well, with good conditions and the customers didn’t expect the CSI treatment every time they called police, then maybe the officers would have a better opportunity to deal with people.

Just about the only time you look at the media and listen to people talk about police it’s about how much of a shit job they do.

I guarantee Ken M, even the most belligerent corrupt cop has done more to help the community in a day of work then you have in your life whole. You can beat your chest and say they are all corrupt, every single one of them is willing and able to put their lives on the lines for people they don’t know for the most unexpected reasons. Yet they are “all corrupt” even the good ones. At least you safe behind your keyboard Kenny Boy.

What an absolutely deranged rant that has absolutely nothing to do with what I said.

Corrupt cops and those abusing their authority exist. That’s an undeniable fact. We had one authority abuser just recently tase and kill a 95 year old woman. He was kept on with pay until they had no other option. That says it all. Closing ranks and protecting dirtbags, a current example.

When allegedly good cops see the poor behaviour and ignore it, or even worse aid in covering it up and make excuses for it, they all understandably get a bad reputation and lose public trust. If you aid and abet corruption and abuse of power, you are just as bad. Simple.

You’re right, it was a terrible incident. What is supposed to happen in this instance?

With Fair Work legislation and a matter before court. If NSW Police fire him, then he is found not guilty at court, he can sue NSW Police.

How does that benefit the department? If they suspend him without pay, then he is forced to obtain employment elsewhere, more than likely, no-one is going to employ him, so that’s onto the welfare route, which he can’t get, as he is employed.

What’s the answer there? That’s not corruption, that is an Australian wide issue, not just with Police.

How is the rest of my “rant” deranged?

You still haven’t been able to name when the “good cops” are turning a blind eye to “bad cops” and what that behaviour actually looks like in Australia.

How different is it to teachers being moved schools after allegations of child abuse without further explanation, or Doctors being released from hospital contracts instead of facing disciplinary boards when too many people die under their care? Or restaurants being able to re-open with a different name after putting 100s of people in hospital through accidental poisonings?

I din’t care about any other industry for the purposes of this conversation. It’s irrelevant. We are talking aboou police corruption, not restaurants dodging the health department.

If you beed examples of police corruption and covet ups, simply google “police corruption cover up in Australia”. You’ll find literally dozens and dozens of news articles, inquiries etc showing just that.

I don’t need it, my main want is to know why it is soo much worse for police when literally every other sector does exactly the same thing?

And, you didn’t answer the question re: the firing of the NSW cop?