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Child porn accused – “but my business will fail without me!”

By weeziepops - 23 March 2013 18

This is an interesting decision.

I know we are all about innocence until proven guilty but they found pictures of this guy with his daughter, presumably sufficiently dodgy as to warrant a mention. And the reason for bail is that his business will fail if he isn’t released.

Mr Lawton said the defendant had co-operated fully with authorities, and would be foolish to attempt to reoffend while he was under such intense scrutiny.

“If the man is silly enough to use the internet for anything other than work purposes, he can expect to have the AFP knocking on his door within minutes,” he said.

The court heard his IT business would fail without his skills and knowledge, or if he was banned completely from using the internet,

Magistrate Peter Morrison released the man on bail on strict conditions, including that he not contact his daughters or his wife.

He must report details of all his internet use to the AFP and notify of any plans to go interstate.

He is not allowed to be in the presence of any children without an adult.

Earlier this week, the man was refused bail over fears he may interfere with evidence. At that stage, authorities were still attempting to access a Hushmail email account, a secure and heavily encrypted service based in Canada.

Story via Canberra Times.

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18 Responses to
Child porn accused – “but my business will fail without me!”
Alderney 11:07 am 25 Mar 13

joingler said :

Take necessary precautions while the matter is before the courts but treat him as innocent until it is proven guilty (assuming it is). Every person has a right to defend themselves against any crime. If he is innocent it is best to keep his life on track as much as possible.If he is guilty then at least his business has had time to train existing staff up on how to do the defendents job

Our legal system is predicated on guilt being proved or not proved. Innocence doesn’t even come in to it.

Plenty of people get away with things, not because they didn’t do them, but because the prosecution failed to prove beyond resonable doubt that they did.

Stevian 9:56 pm 24 Mar 13

Spectra said :

weeziepops said :

Spectra, the right/opportunity to defend himself is one thing but bail for this and for the reason given seems like one in the eye to his victims.

Your whole point (specifically the existence of victims) is predicated on his guilt. The point of bail is that guilt has not actually been established.

Stop talking sense. Remember this is RiotAct. A forum for tales full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

Mike Crowther 8:58 pm 24 Mar 13

“If the man is silly enough to use the internet for anything other than work purposes, he can expect to have the AFP knocking on his door within minutes,” he said.

Because the cops have the resources to monitor this blokes internet 24/7….

“Within minutes”??? Thats got to be a defence lawyer speaking..

weeziepops 8:25 pm 24 Mar 13

Joingler, usually I would agree with your point. They have pictures of him with his daughter. I am prepared to bet they aren’t harmless holiday snaps.

joingler 6:46 pm 24 Mar 13

weeziepops said :

Spectra, the right/opportunity to defend himself is one thing but bail for this and for the reason given seems like one in the eye to his victims.

I actually agree with Spectra.

Take necessary precautions while the matter is before the courts but treat him as innocent until it is proven guilty (assuming it is). Every person has a right to defend themselves against any crime. If he is innocent it is best to keep his life on track as much as possible.If he is guilty then at least his business has had time to train existing staff up on how to do the defendents job

Spectra 4:41 pm 24 Mar 13

weeziepops said :

Spectra, the right/opportunity to defend himself is one thing but bail for this and for the reason given seems like one in the eye to his victims.

Your whole point (specifically the existence of victims) is predicated on his guilt. The point of bail is that guilt has not actually been established.

monostereo 4:38 pm 24 Mar 13

Spectra said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

No. Eff you scumbag. You should not even get bail, let alone get to worry about your buisness.

Hey, you’re right! Hell, why even bother with a court system? We’ll just blindly take the police’s word for everything. It’s not like they’ve ever lied or made mistakes.
If he’s done what is claimed, let him rot in jail – I’ll be first in line to spit on him. But, crazy as it sounds, I think he should probably have a chance to defend himself before having his life ruined any more than it already has been.

In this reasoning drunk drivers should be allowed back behind the wheel after they get caught DUI until they’re proven guilty, and people who shoot others should have access to their guns until proven guilty, right?

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 3:33 pm 24 Mar 13

Spectra said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

No. Eff you scumbag. You should not even get bail, let alone get to worry about your buisness.

Hey, you’re right! Hell, why even bother with a court system? We’ll just blindly take the police’s word for everything. It’s not like they’ve ever lied or made mistakes.
If he’s done what is claimed, let him rot in jail – I’ll be first in line to spit on him. But, crazy as it sounds, I think he should probably have a chance to defend himself before having his life ruined any more than it already has been.

I’m not part of tooks rah rah squad by any means, but I’d bet my house that the coppers are not into shopping pedophilia pictures.

weeziepops 12:57 pm 24 Mar 13

Spectra, the right/opportunity to defend himself is one thing but bail for this and for the reason given seems like one in the eye to his victims.

Spectra 11:03 am 24 Mar 13

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

No. Eff you scumbag. You should not even get bail, let alone get to worry about your buisness.

Hey, you’re right! Hell, why even bother with a court system? We’ll just blindly take the police’s word for everything. It’s not like they’ve ever lied or made mistakes.
If he’s done what is claimed, let him rot in jail – I’ll be first in line to spit on him. But, crazy as it sounds, I think he should probably have a chance to defend himself before having his life ruined any more than it already has been.

Roundhead89 10:50 am 24 Mar 13

c_c™ said :

“He must report details of all his internet use to the AFP”

So law enforcement is working on the honour system now is it?

Surely the AFP can tap his internet account and monitor it themselves?

c_c™ 12:15 am 24 Mar 13

“He must report details of all his internet use to the AFP”

So law enforcement is working on the honour system now is it?

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 11:18 pm 23 Mar 13

No. Eff you scumbag. You should not even get bail, let alone get to worry about your buisness.

gooterz 10:17 pm 23 Mar 13

Welcome to 2013. Where having a picture of an event counts much worse than the event itself.

But lets face it, if word gets around that he’s a deviant his business is probably gone anyway, innocent or not.

liability 8:35 pm 23 Mar 13

Good old Hushmail, commonly used by crooks of all sorts. It is quite common for law enforcement folk to target users of Hushmail and similar encrypted email services, to see what they are up to.

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