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Cyclist v driver rant

By Gungahlin Al 14 October 2010 115

It’s a month with a R in it so it must be time for a cyclist vs driver rant. [ED – Actually it’s been a while and we’re open to them in may and june]

And after this morning’s ride, I’m in a ranting mood. Four near misses in one ride is not acceptable on anyone’s planet.

Normally I shun the deathrace that is the absurdly skinny bits of laughingly named Cycle Lanes on Northbourne and parts of Flemington, but the rain turns the Wells Station Track into clay slush, so blacktop it was today. Rear light flashing, reflector strips on panniers, etc…

First a moron in a green Audi sedan couldn’t wait the 10 seconds for me to get through the skinny roadworks at Mitchell and forced his way through WAY too close. Then someone in a small silver sedan cut in front of two of us at EPIC using the entire cycle lane. Then a guy in a maroon sedan decided the cycle lane at Watson was there so he could pass everyone on the left and over he pulled without looking – big swerve required.

Final straw was the 51-route ACTION bus on Northbourne who decided to run right along the white line, despite having more than a metre free the other side (my third close call with an ACTION bus in as many weeks – some of the bastards actually swerve closer as they pass you!). Back onto footpaths…

Jeez folks – it shouldn’t this dangerous to have a simple bike ride!

Remember, everyone who is riding is making less congestion for you in your cars. So take a bit more care please?


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Grail 10:50 pm 08 Feb 11

I’ve found the on-road cycling on Northbourne is just fine except for the occasional twit who is in too much of a rush to drop their darling off at the bus stop.

As for the pollution, I get about 1/3rd the pollution in my lungs that the car drivers do 🙂 Think about it for a minute – where is the air intake for your car’s airconditioning? Where’s the exhaust of the car in front of you? Where does their exhaust go? That’s right 🙂

Holden Caulfield 10:56 am 28 Oct 10

KB1971 said :

So your an idiot then?

This is not quite up there with genious, but it’s pretty close.

KB1971 10:23 am 28 Oct 10

CraigT said :

Having said that, when I am driving, I personally make a special effort to baulk and annoy any idiots in lycra, idiots driving 4WDs, and idiots driving with their headlights on. They’re asking for it.

So your an idiot then?

CraigT 7:49 am 28 Oct 10

The problem is that the cops just aren’t taking the crappy drivers off the road – tail-gating is endemic along with impatient and hostile dangerous driving.

They need to stop relying on the speed cameras and RAPID cameras and get out there and pull over some of the dangerous twerps who clearly need their licences cancelled.

Having said that, when I am driving, I personally make a special effort to baulk and annoy any idiots in lycra, idiots driving 4WDs, and idiots driving with their headlights on. They’re asking for it.

3Jane 9:44 pm 24 Oct 10

KB1971 said :

Rather than wait to pass me on a safe stretch of road I had two divers pass on blind curves nearly resulting in head on accidents with other traffic. Two drivers nearly hit me because they did not move over because of on coming traffic. Would it be too hard to slow down & pass when safe?

I’m a driver and I experience this. Two minutes out of your life (and it’s rarely that long) is NOT too long to stop or slow down in the name of safety.

Anyway, this thread has been enlightening. I never see cyclists on the road, except for on the Yarra Glen in their lanes, and that lycra crew is clearly insane (freezing cold mornings?). The bicycle lanes must be good around here. Onya ACT govt.

Holden Caulfield 9:34 pm 22 Oct 10

Not sure if this Stateline story has made it on to RA before, but will no doubt add to the discussion!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a84UxbsB3o8

Holden Caulfield 5:24 pm 21 Oct 10

Pitchka said :

Granted, I see alot of wreckless drivers, but i see more cyclist going through red lights, failing to stop at stop sighs etc on a daily basis then i do cars, and there are more cars on our roads!

Far be it from me to stick up for the cyclists, and I do agree with your basic premise, but aside from the red light/stop sign thing, on average, how many motorists would you see who break road rules on any given drive? Speeding, failure to indicate, and so it goes…

WalkTheTalk said :

If anyone wants to rant at a cyclist, rant at those who (as previously mentioned in this thread) run red lights, stop signs etc. You’ll probably be ranting side by side with the cyclists who do obey the law.

Quite. The other one that gets me hot under the collar is the number of cyclists who ride at dusk/night without lights etc. I don’t really want to crash into a cyclist and will do my best to avoid doing so, but it does help when I can actually see them. At least with daylight savings it’s not as bad, but during the winter I’d see on average one cyclist per day commuting without lights between Barry Drive and Macarthur Ave on my drive home from work.

Grrrr 3:32 pm 21 Oct 10

davecdp said :

If i saw a driver breaking the road rules i could report them.

But you don’t .. and if you did – then what? Absolutely nothing! If the police didn’t see it or don’t have hard evidence of it, then it didn’t happen.

Putting plates on bikes would encourage riders to follow the rules.

Wrong .. but hey, you and every anti-cycling/pro-bikeplates poster keep ignoring all the previous threads here where your fallacies have already been refuted.

I am, however, in favour of registration of bicycles and their riders if it would insure the riders and establish a registry to aid the detection and return of stolen bicycles. That would be worth paying for.

KB1971 10:39 am 19 Oct 10

Pitchka said :

KB1971 said :

WalkTheTalk said :

If anyone wants to rant at a cyclist, rant at those who (as previously mentioned in this thread) run red lights, stop signs etc. You’ll probably be ranting side by side with the cyclists who do obey the law.

x eleventybillion!!

Why have eleventybillion, when you can have…………………eleventytrillion????????????

Because im not greedy…………. 🙂

Pitchka 10:27 am 19 Oct 10

KB1971 said :

WalkTheTalk said :

If anyone wants to rant at a cyclist, rant at those who (as previously mentioned in this thread) run red lights, stop signs etc. You’ll probably be ranting side by side with the cyclists who do obey the law.

x eleventybillion!!

Why have eleventybillion, when you can have…………………eleventytrillion????????????

KB1971 9:40 am 19 Oct 10

WalkTheTalk said :

If anyone wants to rant at a cyclist, rant at those who (as previously mentioned in this thread) run red lights, stop signs etc. You’ll probably be ranting side by side with the cyclists who do obey the law.

x eleventybillion!!

WalkTheTalk 9:28 am 19 Oct 10

IMHO there’s a big sense of entitlement from many cyclists, motorists, motorcyclists and pedestrians.

The only entitlement any of us have is to get to where we are going safely. This stems from all parties obeying road rules combined with a healthy dose of common sense.

The common sense part can’t be understated (nor it seems in many cases can it be found). The simple fact is that no one is going to care more about your welfare than you, regardless of what legal and/or moral position you have whilst on the road.

Matt 31221′ at #97 – No, don’t take all cyclists off the road. Just those that can’t respect the rights and responsibilities all road users have (take any driver or rider who can’t do the same, with them). Based on your description – the bloke you wrote about should fit neatly into this category. He should have made himself easier to be seen.

If anyone wants to rant at a cyclist, rant at those who (as previously mentioned in this thread) run red lights, stop signs etc. You’ll probably be ranting side by side with the cyclists who do obey the law.

davecdp 4:28 pm 18 Oct 10
Pitchka 10:17 am 18 Oct 10

damien haas said :

Maybe we can have one universal post to list the numberplates of shit drivers.

Silver Ford, YFX 15Z – last Thursday, 4.50PM, 20ish brunette, heading to Civic on Nthbourne – weaving all over the place, causing me to swerve to the left so i was not sideswiped. I would have honked, but that may have distracted you from typing that SMS message into your phone while driving…

They did, it was http://www.ratetheplate.com.au. The amount of people who posted BS reports about certain vehicles was the main reason it was taken down, along with obvious privacy and legal issues.

Pitchka 10:15 am 18 Oct 10

So moral of the story is, if your a cyclist, people driving their vehicles are reckless, and if you drive a motor vehicle, then cyclists are reckless.

And around and around we go……….

Granted, I see alot of wreckless drivers, but i see more cyclist going through red lights, failing to stop at stop sighs etc on a daily basis then i do cars, and there are more cars on our roads!

KB1971 8:10 am 18 Oct 10

On the weekend I esperienced some bad driver behavoir & not purely because I was cyling at the time, I notice this behavoir time & time again from drivers who come from the city & are used to dual lane roads.

I did a lap of the Cotter/Tidbinbilla over the weekend on my bike. As most people are aware, there is not much room so I get out early to try & avoid the traffic.

Anyway, why are Canberra drivers incapable of passing safely?

Rather than wait to pass me on a safe stretch of road I had two divers pass on blind curves nearly resulting in head on accidents with other traffic. Two drivers nearly hit me because they did not move over because of on coming traffic. Would it be too hard to slow down & pass when safe?

I see this bad passing behavoir time & time again when travelling to my home town on the Sapphire Coast & it is worse on the Kings & Barton highways.

Think about your actions people.

lulu 10:04 am 17 Oct 10

Dear Special G and Co. You are deluded. No one looks good in lycra. No matter how fit or trim you are, it’s simply hideous. I drive a car (and therefore pay rego) I also ride a bike (and therfore save money on petrol parking etc). I occasionally experience dangerous behaviour from motorists while riding my bike. I do agree that some action bus drivers seem to be on an anti cyclist mission and it is very scary when they indulge in bullying behaviour.

However, I also experience smiles and waves from motorists and courteous behaviour (quite often from tradies). Below are some of the reasons why I think I don’t piss them off very often:

I don’t assume that they will stop for me at a pedestrian crossing (because I’m not a pedestrian). If they see me waiting to cross and stop for me, I smile, wave and thank them.

I’m more likely to be wearing a pretty dress and looking happy than I am to be wearing lycra and an aggressive frown.

I don’t flash bright lights in the eyes of motorists and other cyclists – front lights are for seeing where you’re going and therefore should point at the road not at people’s faces (blinding lights are particularly dangerous on unlit bike paths like the one over O’Connor Ridge. Cars use low beam; cyclists should too). Rear lights are important for safety but don’t need to be blinding either.

I don’t press the button at pedestrian/bike crossings unless the traffic is very heavy. I simply wait until it is safe to cross – I believe that everyone who is old enough to safely cross a road should do the same (and those who are not should be accompanied by an adult). Recently, while driving on Lady Denman Drive, I saw a lycra-clad cyclist crossing the road at a crossing hundreds of metres in front of me. By the time I reached the crossing, the light changed to red and I had to wait even though there was no other traffic and the cyclist was long gone. Thanks mate – you’re doing great things for motorist cyclist relations (not). The crossing on Macarthur Ave is another one where cyclists regularly force mororists to stop unnecceserily.

If I feel like meandering along slowly, I ride on the footpath.

It’s not rocket science folks!

Special G 6:10 am 17 Oct 10

Take push bike riders off the road and here’s why – In some conditions they are generally really hard to see. Some don’t wear high viz and come out of no where. I cut a push bikers off when turning across Northbourne ave into Dickson the other day, I didn’t see him till the last minute (Lucky I slowed down). He was sticking his finger up and carrying on – the clown was wearing camo and riding a green speed bike in a bushy area!!

That’s great – blame your poor driving skills and inattention on the cyclist. Then feel all offended when the bloke you almost killed gets upset at you.

I hope you get through life without killing someone.

Amethyst 11:55 pm 16 Oct 10

Just to add another driver to the shit list:

Small white car driven by an old woman with rather wild white hair. Didn’t catch the numberplate, as I was too busy avoiding the tree she almost pushed me into. Before you change lanes, GENERALLY it helps to check if there’s anyone using that space already.

OpenYourMind 6:36 pm 16 Oct 10

People can bitch and moan about cyclists and cycling initiatives, but the reality is that just about any significant city you care to name is factoring cycling in as a bigger and bigger part of their transport solution. Have a look at London, Paris, Vienna, even Melbourne. They are all installing public bicycle rental systems and installing various cycle lanes and cycleways. None of these cities charge registration for bicycles.

As I’ve said before, I’m a motorcyclist, ex truck and taxi driver, motorist and very keen cyclist. Sharing the road and being polite really aren’t that hard and most drivers/riders manage to do so.

I do think the walking across pedestrian crossings with a bicycle law is ridiculous and I’m glad to say that the Pedal Power is lobbying to get this law changed.

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