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Cyclists dismount

By Jazz - 5 February 2014 62

Ride to Rule

Jellyware sent this in with an interesting question – is following the rules as an act of civil disobedience?

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Cyclists dismount
Rollersk8r 9:38 am 06 Feb 14

dungfungus said :

I think the question has been asked before but has anyone ever been fined for not obeying this law?

If a cyclist was “caught” (it wouldn’t be hard to do) what would be the fine and how would it be enforced as bikes do not have any rego and there are no pockets on the lycra goblin suits to carry ID.

Yes – th4e Police have stopped/cautioned/fined cyclists before at this crossing. Details are on here somewhere.

dungfungus 8:08 am 06 Feb 14

I think the question has been asked before but has anyone ever been fined for not obeying this law?

If a cyclist was “caught” (it wouldn’t be hard to do) what would be the fine and how would it be enforced as bikes do not have any rego and there are no pockets on the lycra goblin suits to carry ID.

Antagonist 7:50 am 06 Feb 14

Aeek said :

Antagonist said :

And if we take this through to the logical conclusion, we can also treat speed signs for motorists as advisory only

The difference with speed signs is there is a direct relationship with the problem, the roads are generally much safer if speeds are moderated.
With crossings, the issue is people entering too fast.
Runners, roller bladers and mobility scooters(10kmh) are still allowed to proceed well above walking pace. Requiring cyclists to dismount does not address the actual problem.

I will remember to try that BS if I get pulled up by Mr Plod – something of a rarity since I obey the road rules and signage. I don’t think it will hold up. “Sorry officer, I did not think the ‘stop’ sign addressed the actual problem, so I treated it as a ‘give way’ instead”. Cyclists are allowed to do it, so I can too.

But thank you for demonstrating to the whole RiotACT community that there is indeed one set of rules for motorists, and another set of rules for cyclists.

Masquara 7:21 am 06 Feb 14

They won’t do it.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 6:58 am 06 Feb 14

TallBoy said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

bd84 said :

The sign actually says civil obedience not disobedience..

I have no problem with cyclists riding over crossings, as long as they slow to walking pace and look before crossing. Too many speeding wannabe Tour de France riders who wear dark clothing and expect others to see them when they do nothing to facilitate it.

Yup.

Don’t dismount, what a waste of time, but seriously, slow it down. It does not even need to be to walking pace. Just enough so you can be seen.

Cycling over a zebra crossing is more dangerous than walking the bike and is illegal. Don’t you ever think Nerdy? Try it more in future and you’ll shake your ‘half-witted buffoon’ image here on riotact.

Explain.

TallBoy 12:29 am 06 Feb 14

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

bd84 said :

The sign actually says civil obedience not disobedience..

I have no problem with cyclists riding over crossings, as long as they slow to walking pace and look before crossing. Too many speeding wannabe Tour de France riders who wear dark clothing and expect others to see them when they do nothing to facilitate it.

Yup.

Don’t dismount, what a waste of time, but seriously, slow it down. It does not even need to be to walking pace. Just enough so you can be seen.

Cycling over a zebra crossing is more dangerous than walking the bike and is illegal. Don’t you ever think Nerdy? Try it more in future and you’ll shake your ‘half-witted buffoon’ image here on riotact.

OpenYourMind 11:13 pm 05 Feb 14

bd84 said :

The sign actually says civil obedience not disobedience..

I have no problem with cyclists riding over crossings, as long as they slow to walking pace and look before crossing. Too many speeding wannabe Tour de France riders who wear dark clothing and expect others to see them when they do nothing to facilitate it.

Take a look at any cafe you care to name on a Saturday or Sunday morning, you’ll find us cyclists there. You’ll struggle to find any wannabe Tour de France rider types wearing dark clothing.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 11:04 pm 05 Feb 14

Antagonist said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

bd84 said :

The sign actually says civil obedience not disobedience..

I have no problem with cyclists riding over crossings, as long as they slow to walking pace and look before crossing. Too many speeding wannabe Tour de France riders who wear dark clothing and expect others to see them when they do nothing to facilitate it.

Yup.

Don’t dismount, what a waste of time, but seriously, slow it down. It does not even need to be to walking pace. Just enough so you can be seen.

And if we take this through to the logical conclusion, we can also treat speed signs for motorists as advisory only – like the ones for school zones. And the same for stop signs too. Do you see the fault in your logic?

Excuse me, there is never a fault in my logic. Comparing 5kph to 40kph is ridic.

Stop signs, yes, 99% of them you do not need to stop! just slow enough to asses what is coming.

Aeek 10:46 pm 05 Feb 14

Antagonist said :

And if we take this through to the logical conclusion, we can also treat speed signs for motorists as advisory only

The difference with speed signs is there is a direct relationship with the problem, the roads are generally much safer if speeds are moderated.
With crossings, the issue is people entering too fast.
Runners, roller bladers and mobility scooters(10kmh) are still allowed to proceed well above walking pace. Requiring cyclists to dismount does not address the actual problem.

Aeek 9:24 pm 05 Feb 14

Legally, a hand cycle is a bicycle so the rider is still required to dismount, even if they are incapable of walking. Alternating dragging themselves and their bike is likely to take a very long time. No exceptions. The law is the law.

Antagonist 8:58 pm 05 Feb 14

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

bd84 said :

The sign actually says civil obedience not disobedience..

I have no problem with cyclists riding over crossings, as long as they slow to walking pace and look before crossing. Too many speeding wannabe Tour de France riders who wear dark clothing and expect others to see them when they do nothing to facilitate it.

Yup.

Don’t dismount, what a waste of time, but seriously, slow it down. It does not even need to be to walking pace. Just enough so you can be seen.

And if we take this through to the logical conclusion, we can also treat speed signs for motorists as advisory only – like the ones for school zones. And the same for stop signs too. Do you see the fault in your logic?

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 7:18 pm 05 Feb 14

bd84 said :

The sign actually says civil obedience not disobedience..

I have no problem with cyclists riding over crossings, as long as they slow to walking pace and look before crossing. Too many speeding wannabe Tour de France riders who wear dark clothing and expect others to see them when they do nothing to facilitate it.

Yup.

Don’t dismount, what a waste of time, but seriously, slow it down. It does not even need to be to walking pace. Just enough so you can be seen.

Deckard 7:10 pm 05 Feb 14

For those that do decide to walk their bikes across the crossings I’d recommend waiting for the car to stop before stepping out. There are too many V8 Supercar driver wannabees who don’t stop at crossings for pedestrians let alone cyclists.

Maya123 7:10 pm 05 Feb 14

The cars will be inconvenienced if people dismount from their bicycles and then walk across the crossings, because this is slower than (carefully) riding across crossings. Cars will have to wait longer.

bd84 5:35 pm 05 Feb 14

The sign actually says civil obedience not disobedience..

I have no problem with cyclists riding over crossings, as long as they slow to walking pace and look before crossing. Too many speeding wannabe Tour de France riders who wear dark clothing and expect others to see them when they do nothing to facilitate it.

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