30 October 2024

We need to talk about early voting and the 100-metre rule, says ACT Greens leader

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ACT Greens Leader Shane Rattenbury: “These are really interesting questions of how we balance how to run a good democracy.” Photo: Ian Bushnell.

The primacy and tradition of election day are under threat from electoral changes such as early voting and the 100-metre rule at polling booths, Greens Leader Shane Rattenbury has warned.

Mr Rattenbury also questioned the value of roadside corflutes in election campaigns, given the work involved and vandalism that took place.

He was speaking at Wednesday’s declaration of the poll at the Legislative Assembly where he raised these issues in relation to how the 2028 ACT election might be run.

“I was intrigued to see over the last couple of days a national discussion starting about how long a pre-poll voting period we should have,” he told the event.

“And I think these are really interesting questions of how to run a good democracy, how we enable people to participate effectively and what the community expectations are around these matters.”

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In both the ACT and Queensland elections, about half the electorates voted early, with distinct differences between the pre-poll and election-day votes.

In Queensland, election night commentators wondered what might have happened without early voting, which favoured the LNP, and if the campaign had gone another week.

In the ACT, pre-polls pointed to a swing to the Canberra Liberals but the election day votes dashed the Opposition’s hopes.

Pre-polls in Queensland came in after the same-day votes while in the ACT they were the first to be counted.

Mr Rattenbury said the Greens did not have a position on early voting, which he said was important for participation but could also mean voters deciding without all the facts that can emerge in the last two weeks of a campaign.

He also worried about what could happen to election day itself.

“Election day is an important part of democracy and there’s a real sense of communities coming together at voting booths,” Mr Rattenbury said.

“You’ve got the sausage stall and the cake stall and all these kind of things that do create a sense of community around election day.

“I’m probably a bit of a sentimentalist on that. It’s probably not everybody else’s key consideration.

“But these are the factors we need to weigh up about convenience versus making sure we get a good political outcome and a good sense of people being well informed when they go to the booth.”

Mr Rattenbury said it was a debate that should be had.

He said nobody seemed happy with party canvassers not being allowed within 100 metres of a polling booth, saying they should either be closer, as under the federal rules, or not be there at all.

“It’s kind of almost this weird in-between rule where people are so far away from any voting place that it can feel quite demoralising for the volunteers and the community is confused about whether their electoral information is available or not,” Mr Rattenbury said.

He backed operating under the federal rule and believed voters did not view it as harassment going into to vote but a legitimate way to source information, saying some people did not make up their minds until they were in the booth.

“So there’s a question there: should they be actually be allowed to access information at that point?” Mr Rattenbury said.

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The Greens don’t rely on roadside corflutes and Mr Rattenbury also questioned whether they were an effective campaigning tool.

He also said the other parties were frustrated at the effort it took to put them out and the vandalism they attracted.

“We again need to think carefully about these things and come out with a sensible option that doesn’t disenfranchise people,” Mr Rattenbury said.

“I think some of the smaller groups do think it’s an important way to get their name recognition out there versus the community dislike of it and the seemingly wasteful effort that goes into it.”

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good to see that the Greens Leader is worried about the important issues.

I have better things to do with my weekend than participate in a popularity contest. Voting when it is convenient for people is what is clearly wanted.

“Election day is an important part of democracy and there’s a real sense of communities coming together at voting booths,”

What drugs is that guy on? The important part of democracy is the right and civil duty to vote, that is all I am interested in.

I feel no “sense of communities coming together” if this means I have to stand in line behind a hundred or so other voters on election day, and the “democracy sausage” leaves me ice cold since I don’t eat sausages.

If there was no early voting available, I would sign up for a postal vote or else, skip the voting altogether.

HiddenDragon7:07 pm 31 Oct 24

“You’ve got the sausage stall and the cake stall and all these kind of things that do create a sense of community around election day.”

Early voting is obviously popular with many voters, but one of the tradeoffs (certainly here in the PRC) is fewer election day polling places and thus fewer sausage sizzles and cake stalls for people who enjoy that – if the early voting period is reduced, the number of election day polling places should be restored to something closer to what we formerly had.

GrumpyGrandpa5:38 pm 31 Oct 24

What I dislike the most about the corflutes is the overzealous idiots think that by defacing particular corflutes, will discourage people from voting for that party.

The next thing I dislike about corflutes is that within a short stretch of road there may be 100s of them and often it’s the same faces on most of them. I get sick of the bombardment.

As for early voting & how to vote phamplets, I hate crowds & big lines, so early voting is great. I also dislike people thrusting How to Vote phamplets at me. Who I vote for is my business. I don’t want to broadcast my intentions, by taking phamplets from a particular party and I certainly don’t want to collect phamplets from everyone, to disguise my voting intentions.

Funnily, a Green campaigner tried to hand me a Vote Greens phamplet and my response was a very simple; “Be Green and save your paper”. I was only going to throw it in the bin (recycling). He has a laugh, which I thought was good.

Maybe it’s just me, an old Grumpy Grandpa who sees conflates and How to Vote phamplets as a waste of resources.

Don Fletcher2:32 pm 31 Oct 24

Corflutus votecatchera is a rare and threatened ACT species that flowers spectacularly for a few weeks every four years. I love seeing the corflutes. They disappear quickly. If you feel compelled to worry about them, you must have a very fortunate life, with little to complain about. From the coreflutes I learnt of candidates I had not heard of, then looked them up online. In my 54 years of voting, by far the best changes have been those that enabled early voting by electronic means. In contrast, the standoff rule seems slightly sad, maybe even a bit pathetic.

Early voting is a must, no dozens of arrogant sprookers flogging the party laundry which must change some peoples minds.
The biggest complaint I heard about Saturday was where is the Democracy sausage & bread, a lot of ticked off people.

I always take Rattenbury’s comments with a grain of salt. The Green Party is always in lock step with Barr and Labor and can’t really differentiate itself from this high taxing and charging government which has decades of debt to pay off.

How is this comment relevant to the above article? As I read it, this is a series of discussion points being discussed, not some policy stipulation.

Best if you read articles and pretend you don’t know who made the comments – then judge the comments on their merit rather than your bias about who spoke.

Yeah this really weighs heavily.on people hey Rattenbury.

Early voting suits political parties but not voters. It’s convenient for voters who may be travelling or otherwise indisposed in the weeks leading up to election day. I made use of early voting on the day it started as I was about to travel and voting interstate is a real palaver. Yes, we could do postal voting but if we’re travelling where does it get sent to? And Australia Post takes forever to get mail to addressees.

So, hgo7627 – you say that early voting does not suit voters – but you used it because it was convenient…..? Which is it? I’ll tell you – it does suit voters -that is why so many people do it.

These changes Shane desires would disadvantage minor parties and independents, including those independents who just took 2 seats from the Greens. Another example of the established trying to advantage themselves.

Roadside corflutes allow minor parties and independents to alert a wider audience they are running in the election, which may prompt voters to look up their policies online and to consider voting other than Green/Labor/Liberal.

The 100m rule is not used for Federal elections, and polling places are swarming with volunteers from the major parties. The 100m rule is used for ACT elections as it levels the playing field for minor parties and independents who cannot muster as many volunteers as Green/Labor/Liberal to cover all the polling booths on voting days.

Early voting allows more people to take part, parties could release all their policies prior to early voting.

Peter Strong11:53 am 31 Oct 24

We could put candidate flyers and ‘how to votes’, provided by the candidates, in a pamphlet display out the front of booths. No spuikers. The voters who want information could still get it if they wish. Others could ignore them. Also if we must have corflutes it should be limited to 50 per candidate, 250 is way too many.

This sounds nice in theory, but would it work in practice?

Who is the “we” that is going to do this? Elections ACT shouldn’t be asked to display those party materials.

Also, would some nefarious person just take all the displayed how-to-vote cards for a party they dislike?

Based on this last election there would be a risk of a Greens candidate removing other party’s pamphlets from the display.

There are already more than enough election leaflets put into our mailboxes.

I vote before the day specifically to avoid canvassers. They can talk amongst themselves to keep up their morale.

Early voting should be retained. I vote when I have considered and decided, usually about 5-7 days earlier, with little interest in short term information.

The only corflutes needed are occasional ones to remind you of the date. Get the heads out of sight, there is no photo on the ballot (and please don’t).

If someone wants to set up an apolitical cake stall for “atmosphere” then go for it.

Corflutes still litter the roadsides. When will candidates come to clean them up?

One week of pre-poll is plenty, remembering that postal voting is also an option. The 100 metre rule is absurd. 20 metres is enough to give space to people that do not wish to engage.

ACT Greens Leader Shane Rattenbury: “These are really interesting questions of how we balance how to run a good democracy.” Well Shane, you could start with accountability and transparency of decision making for those in Government. The last few years have been very disappointing and you were part of the problem.
Rattenbury said nobody seemed happy with party canvassers not being allowed within 100 metres of a polling booth, saying they should either be closer, as under the federal rules, or not be there at all. Obviously you (or one of your minion advisers) has not been reading the comments section of the Canberra Times. The majority of responses were happy that the ‘political seagulls’ were kept away from the polling station entrances. I for one do not want any party canvassers at the polling stations.
Mr Rattenbury also questioned the value of roadside corflutes in election campaigns, given the work involved and vandalism that took place. Yes right with that one however the vested interest is that the Greens do not have the finances to match the other two parties re purchasing and maintaining the eyesore corflutes littering the roadside otherwise he would be all for it. Thankfully another election farce was had and not another one for four years. Yayyyyyy.

Gregg Heldon10:28 am 31 Oct 24

I’m very happy to not have to deal with canvassers going into the polling booths. In fact 100m is still too close. They still try to button hole from that far away. They did opposite the one at the Hyperdome anyway.
In fact, it’s why I vote early. As someone with C-PTSD, I find some of their behaviour suffocating and some won’t take no for an answer and in the 2016 election, I suffered a panic attack on the grounds of the Mawson Primary School. And a volunteer from a party still tried to put a leaflet in my hand whilst I started to shake and stutter. Took me 10 minutes to calm down and go in to vote.
So every election, local and Federal since, we have voted early and use it as an excuse to go on holiday.

@Gregg Heldon
I must have one of those “don’t even think about it” looks on my dial, as I don’t get bothered by these annoying gnomes.

Nevertheless, I have witnessed voters being harassed by them, as you have described, despite having politely declined to take the material on offer.

If we subscribe to Rattenbury’s belief that we need to get the most up-to-date “information” (read ‘dirt and/or scandal’), then none of us should cast our vote until 5:30pm on polling day. I’m definitely a fan of pre-polling and am personally happy with my research before I vote.

Gregg Heldon12:40 pm 31 Oct 24

I used to have a “don’t mess with me” face, but it has changed since having C-PTSD, it changed to something of vulnerability.
I have now changed my face to one of “come near me, and you’ll catch my disease”.

No, we don’t Shane. I’m sure I’m not the only one who appreciated the option of voting early when it fit into my schedule and not having people harass me on the way in.

Grumpy from Greenway8:14 am 31 Oct 24

It’s about time to implement electronic voting from your phone or PC.

Expensive and difficult to implement and would be open to all sorts of security risks.

GrumpyGrandpa5:39 pm 31 Oct 24

Hey Grumpy from Greenway, I’m a Grumpy Grandpa, also from Greenway. 😂

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