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Greens to have another go at gay weddings

By johnboy - 20 May 2009 33

The Canberra Times informs us that the Greens are going to try legislate a “ceremonial aspect” for gay and lesbian civil unions.

One can only suspect they’re doing this to present the spectacle of the Labor government at the commonwealth level giving it the kibosh, with possible bonus stupid statements from the Liberals. In short it probably won’t get up, but it will make the Greens look good so why not give it a whack?

If we were starting from scratch we wouldn’t have a legislated “ceremonial aspect” for anyone’s civil union / marriage. But if we’re stuck with it, and if people insist on making their friends listen to bad poetry written by their fat friend, then I guess it should be open to everyone.

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33 Responses to
Greens to have another go at gay weddings
Thumper 12:29 pm 20 May 09

You can flog a dead horse but you still can’t get him to cook you scrambled eggs for breakfast?

A Noisy Noise Annoys 12:27 pm 20 May 09

What was that someone said about flogging a dead horse?

Mr Evil 12:23 pm 20 May 09

chewy14 said :

Unbeliever said :

There’s a bit that’s changed since the last three times that the fed gov decided to not support ceremonies. Turnbull is seen as supportive of gay rights issues and he has a lot of gay folks in his electorate. US politics has changed (with IOWA legislating marriage equality) and Obama having previously publically supported marriage equality. So as well as for all your reasons JB – this seems like the right time.

WTF does Obama’s and Iowa’s politics have to do with legislating for a ceremony at a civil union in Canberra?

Thumper said :

Obama is the messiah. You shall bow to his mighty oration and wisdom.

Obama is my shepherd. Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of financial destitution and bankruptcy, I will fear no evil, greedy bankers – for Obama is with me; his hot wife, daughters and his Portuguese Water Dog, they comfort me.

Unbeliever 12:23 pm 20 May 09

As the non-logical arguments go: ceremony in civil union = mimicking marriage. Btw even the term civil union is adopted from US politics (where it was framed specifically as a ‘seperate but equal’ scheme in relation to marriage.

Marriage is weakened when it’s mimicked. Marriage must be protected. From the US Defense of Marriage Act, Howard’s Marriage Act amendment was also a reaction to a fear that marriage needed protection from gays. US political position on protecting marriage was widely parrotted in federal politics here (even when unlike the American legal system – under federal laws here marriage equality could not be inferred and therefore enforced by the courts – according to the former chief justice of the family court of australia).

So let’s not be blind to the fact that the situation we’re in now (acceptability of a ceremony in civil unions) had nothing to do with US politics. C’mon.

poptop 12:21 pm 20 May 09

There are a number of entrepreneurs already offering a ceremonial service for single sex unions and have been for some time. WTF would you legislate ceremonial aspects?

The issue is that the GILBT community want the same legal rights, responsibilities and protections to marry their partner as the adult heterosexual community. All this fiddling around the margins to try to get away with some sort of Claytons arrangement is just window-dressing.

If it is put to referendum, I’ll vote against people being allowed to write their own vows. The only reason to allow this travesty it so you can read the vows out to whichever person bunks on your sofa after the first big arguement [not actually recommended].

caf 12:17 pm 20 May 09

It’ll have to get through the Assembly to make it as far as a Federal kiboshing.

Unbeliever 12:11 pm 20 May 09

‘WTF does Obama’s and Iowa’s politics have to do with legislating for a ceremony at a civil union in Canberra?’ Are you asking me to explain your ignorance?

G-Fresh 12:08 pm 20 May 09

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy said :

I only believe in gay marriage when both chicks are hot.

+1

Thumper 11:47 am 20 May 09

Obama is the messiah. You shall bow to his mighty oration and wisdom.

chewy14 11:35 am 20 May 09

Unbeliever said :

There’s a bit that’s changed since the last three times that the fed gov decided to not support ceremonies. Turnbull is seen as supportive of gay rights issues and he has a lot of gay folks in his electorate. US politics has changed (with IOWA legislating marriage equality) and Obama having previously publically supported marriage equality. So as well as for all your reasons JB – this seems like the right time.

WTF does Obama’s and Iowa’s politics have to do with legislating for a ceremony at a civil union in Canberra?

colourful sydney rac 11:22 am 20 May 09

Good politics by the Greens on this one.

Unbeliever 11:17 am 20 May 09

There’s a bit that’s changed since the last three times that the fed gov decided to not support ceremonies. Turnbull is seen as supportive of gay rights issues and he has a lot of gay folks in his electorate. US politics has changed (with IOWA legislating marriage equality) and Obama having previously publically supported marriage equality. So as well as for all your reasons JB – this seems like the right time.

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_ 11:09 am 20 May 09

Absolutely.

Thumper 11:06 am 20 May 09

Seriously?

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_ 10:57 am 20 May 09

I only believe in gay marriage when both chicks are hot.

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