31 May 2012

Helicopters all the time, what's happening?

| Nanouk
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Hello

What’s happening in Canberra? Or at least in my part of Canberra (Belconnen)? There are helicopters all the time. I didn’t count but maybe ten a day? It has started one or two weeks ago. Sometimes at night too! Between my neighbour’s compulsive leaf-blowing and these helicopters, I am thinking about moving to another part of the world. Maybe a quiet place like Afghanistan. No, seriously, is there a war? Should I go back to my home country before they start dropping bombs? Do you have laws in Australia against noise? Can I just go to a police station and complain about the noise?

(I don’t know if that is the kind of things you publish on RiotACT, but that’s always where I go when I want to know things about Canberra and I am not sure who I should ask)

Thanks for your help!

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ADFA used to do a lot of training over LBG around ANU.

I always assumed it was kind of on purpose, since there’s such a proud tradition of rivalry…

Are they back?

Nanouk said :

Oh dear, I am so impressed by Disinformation who trains himself to sleep in very noisy settings… I thought I was talking to people, but I was talking to robots! Excuse me, I am not used to live on a military base or I don’t know what. I am just a normal people. And I don’t care what my neighbours smoke, I see no reason for being bothered with cannabis-chasing. It makes me think of the movie Pleasantville where you shout “cat! [stuck in a tree]” to get the firefighters to move.

Anyway, good on you guys if the noise isn’t a problem for you. It is a problem for me, it damages my ears much more than cannabis does. Do you have laws in Australia against noise?

Earplugs then? I have heard them too but I don’t find them as annoying (and I haven’t spent time on a base)

Nanouk said :

Oh dear, I am so impressed by Disinformation who trains himself to sleep in very noisy settings… I thought I was talking to people, but I was talking to robots! Excuse me, I am not used to live on a military base or I don’t know what. I am just a normal people. And I don’t care what my neighbours smoke, I see no reason for being bothered with cannabis-chasing. It makes me think of the movie Pleasantville where you shout “cat! [stuck in a tree]” to get the firefighters to move.

Anyway, good on you guys if the noise isn’t a problem for you. It is a problem for me, it damages my ears much more than cannabis does. Do you have laws in Australia against noise?

Try inhaling the smoke through your nasal passages, not your ears, you fool!

gooterz said :

If its just training what is there to hide?

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/FEDPOL21

I suppose you think there should be trackers on patrol cars, marked cars, unmarked car, motorbikes etc that you can log into and see where they are. Can’t see who would think that would be a benefit to. I hope that while they are training the ACT Police can make full use of it

Oh dear, I am so impressed by Disinformation who trains himself to sleep in very noisy settings… I thought I was talking to people, but I was talking to robots! Excuse me, I am not used to live on a military base or I don’t know what. I am just a normal people. And I don’t care what my neighbours smoke, I see no reason for being bothered with cannabis-chasing. It makes me think of the movie Pleasantville where you shout “cat! [stuck in a tree]” to get the firefighters to move.

Anyway, good on you guys if the noise isn’t a problem for you. It is a problem for me, it damages my ears much more than cannabis does. Do you have laws in Australia against noise?

vg said :

Pork Hunt said :

vg said :

Dear Nanouk

Please follow through and live somewhere else, somewhere where your delicate sensibilities aren’t thrashed into oblivion.

P.S. Lived on a helicopter base for years, slept well every night

Not Skid row at Fairbairn?

No, a helicopter base and operational military airfield. You think helos are loud, try A6 Intruders

And Fairbairn wasn’t a helicopter base ? I got there in ’83 and Hueys used to come back from night flying (in the training area) with the odd bullet hole from irate citizens.

Also worked at VIP transport and the old BAC-111s didn’t have any audible means of silencing on their Rolls Royce Spey engines… Louder than F111s I tells ya.

Postalgeek said :

Jim Jones said :

vg said :

You think helos are loud, try A6 Intruders

Is that some sort of sex toy?

Probably shares bedside hanger space with an old Dominator and a couple of Lancers

Not to mention a couple of Fokkers..

peterh said :

MissChief said :

Dear ACT Police Chief,

Can you please stop running training exercises at unreasonable hours. We need our sleep so we can work to pay our taxes to pay your wages.

Thank you.

Concerned Citizen

as has already been mentioned, this is the AFP, not ACT Policing. The ACT Police Chief has little or no say in what the AFP do in Canberra Airspace.

Case in point – see what happens with broken sleep.

Jim Jones said :

vg said :

You think helos are loud, try A6 Intruders

Is that some sort of sex toy?

Probably shares bedside hanger space with an old Dominator and a couple of Lancers

Disinformation2:11 pm 01 Jun 12

vg said :

. You think helos are loud, try A6 Intruders

I’ll see your A6 Intruders and raise you Mirages.
Mind you, I also had no problems sleeping on an operational base at night.
I even fell asleep during the day, while on fire watch with a P3-C Orion doing engine runs twenty feet away. Not one of my proudest moments.

People who train themselves to sleep only in quiet settings deserve all the waking up they get.

MissChief said :

Dear ACT Police Chief,

Can you please stop running training exercises at unreasonable hours. We need our sleep so we can work to pay our taxes to pay your wages.

Thank you.

Concerned Citizen

as has already been mentioned, this is the AFP, not ACT Policing. The ACT Police Chief has little or no say in what the AFP do in Canberra Airspace.

vg said :

You think helos are loud, try A6 Intruders

Is that some sort of sex toy?

Dear ACT Police Chief,

Can you please stop running training exercises at unreasonable hours. We need our sleep so we can work to pay our taxes to pay your wages.

Thank you.

Concerned Citizen

I’ve noticed an increase in helicopters over our place as well, particularly at night. We’re right under the flight path for South Care though so I just figured that South Care is busier than usual at the moment.

HeighwayQueen10:38 am 01 Jun 12

The AFP have finished their flights for now. Any helicopter now are someone else.
Seriously? Is it that loud?
Can you not put up with a little noise to get rid of a few more grow houses?

Sorry but I cannot hear any choppers over all the whinging!

Good luck in your new country.

LSWCHP said :

That’s precisely what’s happening..

No, not poor people. It’s a covert ACT government crime reduction program. It involves helicopters landing all over Canberra at night. Gangs of black clad armed men rush out and grab dealers, blaggers, B&E boys, spivs, standover merchants and other assorted villains. They are taken back to the choppers and then “dropped outside Canberra”, as you put it. Mostly over the Brindabellas, from about 2000 feet agl.

I know I’ve noticed a dramatic reduction in street crime since the birds first went into the air.

LOL, +1.

But i have it on good authority (twitter) that the crims get dropped not in the brindies, but over the border into Queanbeyan. Without an ACTION bus to get them out again, or cars to steal (the locals being to tough-looking to dare steal from), they get stuck there and over time inflate Queanbeyan’s crime stats, while reducing Canberra’s.

It’s quite a clever plan. Or a ‘strategic crime reduction capability building exercise’, as the more articulate top brass like to call it

If its just training what is there to hide?

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/FEDPOL21

As a stay at home mum in Belconnen I’m noticing it quite a bit too. Ten times a day is not an exaggeration. I’m happy the police are training and hopefully will bust a few grow houses but I look forward to it ending as it woke the baby this afternoon and NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO WAKE THE BABY.

Nanouk said :

Yes, thanks! I can find the other thread now, I must have made a mistake with the search engine…
http://the-riotact.com/annoying-belconnen-helicopter/73333

Do they need helicopters to “rescue” poor people from the streets? O_o
And what do they do with them after that, do they drop them outside Canberra?

That’s precisely what’s happening..

No, not poor people. It’s a covert ACT government crime reduction program. It involves helicopters landing all over Canberra at night. Gangs of black clad armed men rush out and grab dealers, blaggers, B&E boys, spivs, standover merchants and other assorted villains. They are taken back to the choppers and then “dropped outside Canberra”, as you put it. Mostly over the Brindabellas, from about 2000 feet agl.

I know I’ve noticed a dramatic reduction in street crime since the birds first went into the air.

Pork Hunt said :

vg said :

Dear Nanouk

Please follow through and live somewhere else, somewhere where your delicate sensibilities aren’t thrashed into oblivion.

P.S. Lived on a helicopter base for years, slept well every night

Not Skid row at Fairbairn?

No, a helicopter base and operational military airfield. You think helos are loud, try A6 Intruders

vg said :

Dear Nanouk

Please follow through and live somewhere else, somewhere where your delicate sensibilities aren’t thrashed into oblivion.

P.S. Lived on a helicopter base for years, slept well every night

Not Skid row at Fairbairn?

SolarPowered7:30 pm 31 May 12

It’s not that bad, is it? In parts of Sydney they get noise from Bankstown and Mascot airports all day. A few helicopters is nothing to get upset about.

Dear Nanouk

Please follow through and live somewhere else, somewhere where your delicate sensibilities aren’t thrashed into oblivion.

P.S. Lived on a helicopter base for years, slept well every night

The Chief Police Officer of the AFP confirmed for me on Twitter that it’s the AFP running training excercises.

If you want to ask him yourselves, get onto Twitter and send him a post via @cpoact – it worked for me!

Nanouk said :

So that’s really war time in Canberra?

Yep. We have been invaded by a single Chinook and now will all die.

Yes, thanks! I can find the other thread now, I must have made a mistake with the search engine…
http://the-riotact.com/annoying-belconnen-helicopter/73333

Do they need helicopters to “rescue” poor people from the streets? O_o
And what do they do with them after that, do they drop them outside Canberra? I hope it’s a wrong hypothesis, and they are really not here for “cleaning the streets”. As for cannabis, jeeeez! do they really need to bother everyone with that? I don’t care if people smokes cannabis, why do I have to suffer from that noise? And it’s been weeks now! If they can’t find the cannabis houses in a few days with their helicopters, maybe they should try another method? Are they going to do that all my life? Houses price can drop in Canberra, I would still go and live somewhere else. >.<
And Chinook, is that an army helicopter? So that's really war time in Canberra?

There was another thread that hypothesized all the police chopper traffic at night was to try and pinpoint drug labs/cannabis growing houses. I’ve seen the rescue chopper around a fair bit, and there was a thread on here about a Chinook circling Canberra on Tuesday. If they’re rescuing people/taking scum off the street, they can make all the noise they want in my view!

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