jacobb9595 shows us how to grow dope here in Canberra

One of the more fascinating images, for me , in Alice in Wonderland is the caterpillar on the mushroom smoking the hookah, if that’s not a drug reference what is?

Snuff is not cocaine.

Jumping Jesus on a Pogo-Stick, if you’re gonna make claims about literary figures and drug usage, at least do a little bit of research.

Tooks said :

I think you’re giving Riotact ‘sleuths’ waaaay too much credit.

True, the previous self incriminators did make it particularly easy to be identified.

Anything else you think he may have taken Cleo? Any more information on the fellow who someone met in the pub who told your mate that his sisters hairdressers cousin had once read a book that said Lewis Caroll was off his tits on heroin when he wrote Alice?

Idiot.

He was an ordained Anglican minister. He also suffered from epilepsy, which may have given him some visions.

He did however have i-m-a-g-i-n-a-t-i-o-n, which isn’t the same as your “making nonsense up about people to put other people down.”

Try using google or even wikipedia before next shooting yourself in the foot.

Could have been snuff or cocaine. Or Alcohol, mushrooms, opium, kava, and just possibly a over-active imagination.

Pommy bastard #77
Well that was the rumor I heard, probley snuf (cocane)

Canberra has a huge drug problem, there is more to do in larger states of Australia.

Grail #81 Most of the kids growing up in Canberra, my kids used to call it that, they are adults now, and no they don’t smoke it.

Pommie Bastard

Are you sure about that? maybe it was Wild Weed or Opium Poppy

Deano said :

Holden Caulfield said :

As well as the Crimes I noticed this story got a mention on what Southern Cross Ten pass off as a local news break.

The CT article mentioned that the AFP were on the case – though they may take a while to solve it as the RiotAct sleuths have yet to discover the poster’s name and address for them as in previous cases of YouTube self incrimination.

I think you’re giving Riotact ‘sleuths’ waaaay too much credit.

and Roasty Toasty tells us why we have the giant needle of black mountain tower

Reality check said :

I highly doubt you’ve interviewed the “head of the drug squad” as you put it.

Oh, doubting Reality Check….

I really did! At least the top guy here in Canberra…

Grail said :

And who on Earth calls Telstra Tower “the big syringe”? I asked Google and Bing, and they both say, “only use is cleo, the user on The RiotACT.”

I’ve heard it called the hypodermic many times

Mental Health Worker said :

Work in mental health and you will certainly see lots of people negatively affected by cannabis…

I’m sure that if you work in mental health, you see lots more people who are negatively affected by everyday life. Drawing a link between drug use and mental illness is not valid if you don’t also draw a link between every day life and mental illness.

The people I know who have mental illnesses generally have had their problems triggered by: genetics, alcoholism, work environment, cheating spouse (no drugs there, but several suicide attempts), sexual abuse as a child. At this time it is not illegal to work in a stressful job, cheat on your spouse or drink alcohol.

As for comments about “safe dosage” – it is theoretically possible to overdose on THC by smoking pot. Shame on me for referencing Wikipedia, but here it is: Toxicity of THC, wherein the claim is made that THC can be fatal, but to achieve that fatal dose you’d need to inhale 680kg of cannabis within a quarter of an hour. One could probably eat it instead, but you’d still have to eat many kilograms of cannabis in a short period of time in order to be toxic.

So the argument could be that you’d certainly die if you smoked too much weed, but from the same cause as if you smoked too much eucalyptus leaf (ie: smoke inhalation, lack of oxygen to the brain).

On the other hand, legalise and control means we can require weed producers to have their product tested, the concentration of THC would be labelled (and presumably regulated by law or market value), and doctors would be able to prescribe a certain amount to be taken in the form of eg: hash brownies (I wouldn’t imagine a doctor prescribing the smoking of marijuana).

And who on Earth calls Telstra Tower “the big syringe”? I asked Google and Bing, and they both say, “only use is cleo, the user on The RiotACT.”

Holden Caulfield said :

As well as the Crimes I noticed this story got a mention on what Southern Cross Ten pass off as a local news break.

The CT article mentioned that the AFP were on the case – though they may take a while to solve it as the RiotAct sleuths have yet to discover the poster’s name and address for them as in previous cases of YouTube self incrimination.

Clever old Lewis Caroll was writing on acid 73 years before it was ever discovered, you claim.

Why ruin a good story with facts?

cleo said :

I am well aware how drugs can affect you, the person who wrote ALICE IN WONDERLAND was on a acid trip when he wrote it.

Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland was written in 1865 novel by author Charles Lutwidge Dodgson, under the pseudonym Lewis Carroll. LSD was first synthesized by Albert Hofmann in 1938 from ergot, a grain fungus that typically grows on rye.

Clever old Lewis Caroll was writing on acid 73 years before it was ever discovered, you claim.

Idiot.

I think we can treat the rest of your rant with the contempt it so clearly deserves too.

cleo said :

Most people I know avoid Canberra, they have lived here, and never want to return because of the drug problems, they don’t call telecom tower the big syringe for nothing!

Where do they return to where there’s no drug problem?

Reality check said :

Jacob is a disgrace to society, as are you that are supporting him. He’s not ‘lining the pockets of scum dealers’ – he’s becoming one himself.

How is being a dealer when he is doing this for himself? The amount that he is growing would not constitute a huge bust (it would be a very small one). As for dealing with people in drug induced psychoses and having dealt with them first hand, I would rather a pot head than a ice freak any day.

“Most people I know avoid Canberra, they have lived here, and never want to return because of the drug problems, they don’t call telecom tower the big syringe for nothing!”

So which fantasy land do they return to that is without its drug problem. It must be a happy happy place full of sunshine and lollipops.

If something makes you depressed or psychotic avoid it but don’t tell everyone else what is bad for you is bad for them. Banning doesn’t discourage people from using in fact it encourages, the forbidden fruit. Should we all give up drinking because some can’t handle or get ill from it.? Reality check..Maybe let’s ban cakes as we have an obesity epidemic. It’s really an afront to people’s intelligence that they can’t make a well informed choice.

Most people I know avoid Canberra, they have lived here, and never want to return because of the drug problems, they don’t call telecom tower the big syringe for nothing!

I know that smoking weed is helpful for people with cronic dieases or to relieve pain.

Sounds like most of you are on the WHACY WEED, or drunk! as far as nasty little cleo, the truth always hurts, I have seen the results what drugs can do to someone, depression, suicide, bi-polar,the list goes on, alcohol causes dementia, and ARDB.
I am well aware how drugs can affect you, the person who wrote ALICE IN WONDERLAND was on a acid trip when he wrote it. Why can’t people enjoy life without this shit? A drink in moderation is fine, but when some people’s personality changes for the worse, they should never drink it.

Hit a raw nerve did I lol or can’t you people feel anything after the big fat joint!

A good reason for me to quit the bongs say, oh, 16 years ago is the fact that I have a family history of mental illness. I have a late grandmother that was a paranoid schizophrenic, an aunt and uncle (From my grandmothers side) who are the same, my mother has had a mental breakdown, my brother is diagnosed with depression.

That, and whenever I smoked, all I could feel was an impending, almost catatonic sense of doom, and a very very tangible feeling and audible sense of the earth slowly rumbling with pure evil intent below my feet. I could quite literally feel and here this as though it was real as you feel your feet on the ground right now.

All I do now is alcohol and get drunk every now and then (I can count on one hand how many times per annum), Granted, even this has risks, but I guess you got to have a some kind of indulgent release every now and then whilst still mitigating 99% of risk.

Mental Health Worker has forgotten that eating disorders have a higher suicide rate than depression. But sufferers of eating disorders are just trying to please everyone, keep their heads down, stay out of trouble. And they’re so tiny! You can understand why people would forget they are here.

Not particularly relevant to the topic at hand… but it’s really not cool to characterise mental health problems as depression or psychosis (whatever that means) and probably involving drugs. For one thing, it stops people getting help because they don’t fit that description. For another thing, it confuses the community in a way that inhibits recovery.

Brindabella said :

The point is, the police have the option not to issue a cannabis infringement notice – even if you only have 2 plants grown outdoors, or any other combination in your possesion.

If they want to get you more serious legistlation, they can weigh the 2 plants and the total weight of the plant will push you way over the 25 grams that may attract a cannabis infringement notice.

If you share that joint with someone, you could be done for supply. Different legislation.

Police discretion.

I have done a lot of research on this topic, and have personally interviewed the head of the drug squad, as well as other police here in Canberra. This research was used to write the pamphlet “Cannabis and the law – are you unsure”, available at health centres, schools, and the government shopfronts.

I highly doubt you’ve interviewed the “head of the drug squad” as you put it. Simply put – even if you just have a joint, you can be charged and put before the Court for Possession of a Prohibited Substance – read the legislation. Police may OPT to issue you with a SCON for a small amount – but this is up to the discretion of the officer. People love going off half-cocked with half the information… If you’re stupid enough to smoke the stuff – you’ll see the consequences for yourself… If you’ve ever dealt with people affected by cannabis or a drug-induced psychosis, you’d be smart enough to stay the hell away from it. Jacob is a disgrace to society, as are you that are supporting him. He’s not ‘lining the pockets of scum dealers’ – he’s becoming one himself.

I would have thought the CT could have at least have continued through the riotact posts if they were going to harvest stories, I thought my comment about jacob9595 learning his “gardening” skills through the Bimberi gardening program was quite humerous.

As well as the Crimes I noticed this story got a mention on what Southern Cross Ten pass off as a local news break.

The harm caused (money and police time wasted, costs of incarceration etc. etc) by pot’s illegality far outweighs any benefits from keeping it illegal.
Making it a crime for a cancer suffer/AIDS patient etc. to grow a few hydro plants in their kitchen then to puff on a joint (or preferrably eat it) is just an obscenity. Thankfully there are more enlightened societies around showing the way such as Holland and California without nasty little cleo’s/..genitals running around telling us what we can do with our bodies and taking the high moral ground. Take note pot consumption after legalization in Holland did not increase amongst Dutch. I am sure the AFP will deal with the matter sensibly bearing in mind the dumb brief the legislature served them and not waste their time on this UTube video. Let’s make cigarettes illegal as they kill 20,000 Australians each year, now there is sensible policy??

“i have yet to be assaulted by deranged, psychotic crimminals scratching out an existence trying to score their next cone.”

Work in mental health and you will certainly see lots of people negatively affected by cannabis, and the consequences often stay forever in the form of a very unpleasant mental illness. (Sometimes a drug-induced psychosis will go away, if you stay off the drugs.)

Comments referring to people who have a”tendency towards psychosis” should probably say “a genetic predisposition to a psychotic illness or bipolar affective disorder”. As no-one can tell in advance if they have that predisposition, the only way of finding out is to smoke lots of cannabis and see if you develop a psychotic illness.

And I wonder how many suicides are contributed to by cannabis use, as suicide is often a consequence of a psychotic illness, bipolar, or depression (it is also strongly linked to depression, and I don’t believe this requires a genetic predisposition)?

Psychotic illness can, rarely, also result in homicides.

Having said all that, I am very much in favour of the “legalise and control” approach, as is currently done with alcohol and tobacco.

MHW

I made the comment using narky language because…

That’s ok, my comment was slightly narky itself. Maybe we all need to relax, chill out and smoke a few….

So you’re stating that “we should look at each issue separately” while at the same time being narky because of your displeasure with other comments of mine?

The irony of this obviously didn’t occur to you.

p1 said :

With his comment “Silly me, I forgot – two wrongs make a right!” georgesgenitals, indicated that he considered alcohol and [insert slang term here] to be equally as bad. I could only assume from this that since they are equal, and pot is sufficiently evil to warrant banning, then he would support the prohibition of grog too.

I was suggesting that we should look at each issue separately. Both alcohol and pot have negative aspects, but I don’t subscribe to the argument that just because one potentially negative thing is legal that the other should automatically be legal too. Alcohol is probably here to stay, but that doesn’t mean pot should automatically be legalised, in my opinion.

I made the comment using narky language because I’ve thought some of Jim Jones comments lately have been a bit stupid. No doubt he feels the same about me, and this is reflected in some of his responses.

Errr, Sorry if my comment wasn’t clear Jim Jones.

Sorry if my comment was clear Jim Jones. I wasn’t accusing you of supporting prohibition, but rather answering your question.

With his comment “Silly me, I forgot – two wrongs make a right!” georgesgenitals, indicated that he considered alcohol and [insert slang term here] to be equally as bad. I could only assume from this that since they are equal, and pot is sufficiently evil to warrant banning, then he would support the prohibition of grog too.

Thoroughly Smashed said :

Just so more conclusions aren’t jumped to, I generally don’t care what people do to their bodies, but I do like to be informed. That’s why I ask questions.

Thumper: Do you have an example that’s applicable to the general population?

Jim Jones: I went nowhere near the issue of prohibition. Is there a safe upper limit for cannabis consumption?

Sorry TS, that part was a response to P1.

Your question is hard to answer – from the perspective of pain management there’s a fair amount of material available on the internetz (the Californian stuff appears to be the best researched).

From a more pragmatic, ‘recreational’ point of view, there is no ‘dangerous’ upper limit for cannabis consumption. Cannabis consumption becomes dangerous if the user has tendencies towards psychoses (which are aggravated by continued use), or if the user develops an addiction with negative consequences (which is more of a social/psychological issue than a strict medical issue – THC isn’t of itself an addictive substance in the same way as nicotine or opiates).

If you drink enough alcohol in one sitting, you can die from the side effects of alcohol poisoning. But it’s impossible to kill yourself by ingesting gigantic amounts of cannabis.

Just so more conclusions aren’t jumped to, I generally don’t care what people do to their bodies, but I do like to be informed. That’s why I ask questions.

Thumper: Do you have an example that’s applicable to the general population?

Jim Jones: I went nowhere near the issue of prohibition. Is there a safe upper limit for cannabis consumption?

Thoroughly Smashed said :

Jim Jones said :

Yeah, much better to get stuck into the alcohol right – because there are absolutely no negative effects from that at all, right?

Of course, but there’s a known safe level of consumption for alcohol. Is the same true for Cannabis via its usual method of administration?

Nobody has ever died through over-consumption of marijuana (I’ve conducted extensive testing).

“Assuming” that I’m in favour of prohibition is obviously disingenuous. After all,
you can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink.

Jim Jones said :

georgesgenitals said :

Jim Jones said :

cleo said :

Why would anyone want to smoke this? How many people end up with mental problems? Dope is harmful, that’s why they call it dope, as that’s what it doe’s to you.

LOL.

Yeah, much better to get stuck into the alcohol right – because there are absolutely no negative effects from that at all, right?

Silly me, I forgot – two wrongs make a right!

How does comparing socially sanctioned drug use against nominally illegal drug use – and pointing out that the individual and social effects of the legal drug use far outsrtip the effects of the illegal drug use – constitute two wrongs?

Perhaps you could respond using a bit of independent thought rather than regurgitating meaningless homilies.

Two many cooks spoil the broth; but I’ve never really been a big fan of broth anyway, so, screw it, I guess.

What’s good for the goose is good for the gander, buddy…

Jim Jones said :

Yeah, much better to get stuck into the alcohol right – because there are absolutely no negative effects from that at all, right?

Of course, but there’s a known safe level of consumption for alcohol. Is the same true for Cannabis via its usual method of administration?

I prefer my Cannabaceae intake in the form of Humulus Lupulus.

Jim Jones said :

How does comparing socially sanctioned drug use against nominally illegal drug use – and pointing out that the individual and social effects of the legal drug use far outsrtip the effects of the illegal drug use – constitute two wrongs?

I can only assume that the poster is firmly in favour of prohibition of all alcohol also.

georgesgenitals said :

Jim Jones said :

cleo said :

Why would anyone want to smoke this? How many people end up with mental problems? Dope is harmful, that’s why they call it dope, as that’s what it doe’s to you.

LOL.

Yeah, much better to get stuck into the alcohol right – because there are absolutely no negative effects from that at all, right?

Silly me, I forgot – two wrongs make a right!

How does comparing socially sanctioned drug use against nominally illegal drug use – and pointing out that the individual and social effects of the legal drug use far outsrtip the effects of the illegal drug use – constitute two wrongs?

Perhaps you could respond using a bit of independent thought rather than regurgitating meaningless homilies.

Two many cooks spoil the broth; but I’ve never really been a big fan of broth anyway, so, screw it, I guess.

Jim Jones said :

cleo said :

Why would anyone want to smoke this? How many people end up with mental problems? Dope is harmful, that’s why they call it dope, as that’s what it doe’s to you.

LOL.

Yeah, much better to get stuck into the alcohol right – because there are absolutely no negative effects from that at all, right?

Silly me, I forgot – two wrongs make a right!

Oh, that was a pie. My mistake.

I find chocolate brownies are always popular…

That said, I have always preferred a good beer, and am more of a savoury munchies kinda person.

p1 said :

I am interested if anyone can tell my how much (after drying) you get from a regular sized plant? Cause it seems to me that you could grow a pretty standard plant, but then the second you harvest it, it goes from one plant to more then 25 grams of material…

That’s my point. Harvesting makes no difference.

Whether your dope is harvested, or still attached to a plant, the police have the discretion to issue a SCON for 1 plant, or they can look at the total weight of the plant and get you on >25grams, which does not fall under the decriminalized legislation.

Marijuana is illegal, and the police have options on how they want to bust you.

But a Cannabis Offence Notice Event would be a CONE, non?

So be very wary when your slightly dislexic mate invites you around for a cone, you could be getting more than you bargained for!

My copy of the Daily Telegraph says that musicians cannot play a single note unless they eat drugs first!

baked in a SCONE! ; )

Thoroughly Smashed said :

gospeedygo said :

cleo said :

Why would anyone want to smoke this? How many people end up with mental problems? Dope is harmful, that’s why they call it dope, as that’s what it doe’s to you.

Where do you think good music comes from?

Good musicians?

Thoroughly Smashed said :

gospeedygo said :

cleo said :

Why would anyone want to smoke this? How many people end up with mental problems? Dope is harmful, that’s why they call it dope, as that’s what it doe’s to you.

Where do you think good music comes from?

Good musicians?

My copy of the Daily Telegraph says that musicians cannot play a single note unless they eat drugs first!

p1 you are right one plant produces far more than 25grams. In Canberra you get one growing season outdoors. So with Brindabella rolling, you get one joint a month, for the year. The rest should be flushed immediately. Not all at once or you will block the pipes.

If the police come to your house and your are obviously dealing or are a complete ass-hole, then its easy to throw the book at you. If you persist in dealing/being an ass-hole, eventually you will go to jail.

If you are obviously a smoker and comply with all their request, then they may issue you with a Simple Cannabis Offence Notice, regardless of the amount they bother to find. Obviously its up to the police to decide if you are naughty or nice and how much they search.

I would suggest being very nice and very compliant. The answer to the question “Do you share/sell to friends” would be NO. You might also like to keep your stashes divided into small amounts and hidden in lots of different places. The cupboard above the stove is not a good spot. Things like gram scales and baggies wont help your case for personal use.

I would also suggest that not smoking isn’t such a bad thing.

gospeedygo said :

cleo said :

Why would anyone want to smoke this? How many people end up with mental problems? Dope is harmful, that’s why they call it dope, as that’s what it doe’s to you.

Where do you think good music comes from?

Good musicians?

p1 said :

I am interested if anyone can tell my how much (after drying) you get from a regular sized plant? Cause it seems to me that you could grow a pretty standard plant, but then the second you harvest it, it goes from one plant to more then 25 grams of material…

Anywhere from 1oz to 1.5oz’s should be what you get from a healthy plant…..from what they tell me.

I personally think that it should be completely decrimminalised if not legal as i have yet to be assaulted by deranged, psychotic crimminals scratching out an existence trying to score their next cone.

When was the last time anyone saw a stoner lying unconscious in a gutter with a bud hanging out of his/her arm?

Make sure it’s well dried so you’re not weighing water, separate into 25g bags (one for each member of the household who’s happy to wear a SCON), dispose of the rest. Or just play the odds and assume that, so long as you’re not selling anything, nobody’s going to come looking for you.

I am interested if anyone can tell my how much (after drying) you get from a regular sized plant? Cause it seems to me that you could grow a pretty standard plant, but then the second you harvest it, it goes from one plant to more then 25 grams of material…

so, does being issued with a Simple Cannabis Offence Notice make it a Simple Cannabis Offence Notice event? so a ‘SCONE’. does it come with jam and cream? wouldn’t tim-tams be a better option? police coming round for morning tea, bringing scones – only fair for you to provide the weed, no?

I know it’s fun to sit around and wildly speculate, but the AFP have a perfectly useful site covering all of this (everything below quoted from said site):

With respect to cannabis in the ACT, it is illegal to:

– use it yourself
– administer it to someone else
– possess any quantity of it
– cultivate or be involved in cultivating any quantity of it
– have any quantity of it for sale or supply

Penalties start at $100.00 fines for simple cannabis offences, and range up to $20,000 fines and 20-year jail terms for more serious cannabis offences.

Cannabis offence notice

The Act also includes some additional changes to the Drugs of Dependence Act 1989 (DoDA). The Drugs of Dependence Act 1989 has been amended to reduce the number of cannabis plants which can be dealt with by way of a Simple Cannabis Offence Notice (SCON) from five to two and the exclusion of all hydroponically or artificially cultivated cannabis plants from the SCON scheme.

The decision was made to exclude hydroponically grown cannabis plants from the SCON scheme as the trend towards hydroponic methods of cannabis cultivation indicates that the quantities of cannabis now able to be produced, and potentially the potency of that cannabis, are no longer in line with the original intentions of the scheme.

The Simple Cannabis Offence Notice Scheme allows for a person to possess up to 25gms of dried cannabis, or two cannabis plants (excluding all hydroponically or artificially cultivated cannabis plants) for personal use only. If the fine is paid within 60 days, no criminal record will be recorded. It must be remembered, that possession of any amount of cannabis in the ACT is NOT legal.

Police have discretion whether to issue a SCON or charge an offender with a criminal offence.

Only if you wear protection.

cleo said :

Why would anyone want to smoke this? How many people end up with mental problems? Dope is harmful, that’s why they call it dope, as that’s what it doe’s to you.

Double LOL, some people are dopes even without ever smoking it. Your comment is narrow minded and ignorant. Weed does not cause mental illness, it may increase existing conditions but there is little to no proof that weed is the cause. FREE THE WEED!!

cleo said :

Why would anyone want to smoke this? How many people end up with mental problems? Dope is harmful, that’s why they call it dope, as that’s what it doe’s to you.

Where do you think good music comes from?

Brindabella said :

If you share that joint with someone, you could be done for supply. Different legislation.

What if the joint is composed of material from both my, and my friends plant. Is sharing OK then?

The point is, the police have the option not to issue a cannabis infringement notice – even if you only have 2 plants grown outdoors, or any other combination in your possesion.

If they want to get you more serious legistlation, they can weigh the 2 plants and the total weight of the plant will push you way over the 25 grams that may attract a cannabis infringement notice.

If you share that joint with someone, you could be done for supply. Different legislation.

Police discretion.

I have done a lot of research on this topic, and have personally interviewed the head of the drug squad, as well as other police here in Canberra. This research was used to write the pamphlet “Cannabis and the law – are you unsure”, available at health centres, schools, and the government shopfronts.

cleo said :

Why would anyone want to smoke this? How many people end up with mental problems? Dope is harmful, that’s why they call it dope, as that’s what it doe’s to you.

LOL.

Yeah, much better to get stuck into the alcohol right – because there are absolutely no negative effects from that at all, right?

Postalgeek said :

Think global, buy local.

SCORE!

Zusi4114 its more the dividing line between personal and commercial growing.

pptvb said :

Wraith said :

I love how everyone is an expert on this topic………..

I never inhaled.

Hahahaha Good one!!

I could ask the obvious question on that, do you know a girl called Monica?

fgzk you funny hehehe…

I dont get how in one way you can have 1-2 or 5 plants or whatever the number but then be charged a fine for having them, why stipulate a number for personal use if its going to be held against you… or do I miss understand? is 1-2 plant the threshold between decriminalised or criminalised?

Oh and Cleo why sould any want to drive? How many people end up with car problems?

Honestly self determination is a grand concept when coupled with an un-biased education.

Brindabella a 2 gram joint sounds a bit excessive for just one “someone”. It would be criminal not to share.

Why would anyone want to smoke this? How many people end up with mental problems? Dope is harmful, that’s why they call it dope, as that’s what it doe’s to you.

Jivrashia said :

Inappropriate said :

I never said it was legal, I said it was decriminalised. I suggest you read a dictionary, then read the Drugs of Dependence Act 1989, A1989-11 R26, and pay note of section 171A and the definition of simple cannabis offence

Damn it Inappropriate, is it or isn’t it??

Depending on your answer a few of us will be doing some gardening this coming weekend…

It’s illegal, just like jaywalking is. You get a fine, except it’s about $90 more if you get caught. ($10 for jaywalking, $100 for having a very small bag of weed)
It’s decriminalised, so you shouldn’t be thrown in jail for having a joint in the ACT. Cross the border, and you could get years in jail.
That’s my laymans definition, and I’m sure a lawyer would correct me.

44 days! What is he “pruning” it as he goes?!

Think global, buy local.

Wraith said :

I love how everyone is an expert on this topic………..

I never inhaled.

I love how everyone is an expert on this topic………..

Well if he’s going to use be using weed, he may as well grow it himself. Better that than having to buy it and thus lining the pockets of some bikie scumbags.

Inappropriate said :

I never said it was legal, I said it was decriminalised. I suggest you read a dictionary, then read the Drugs of Dependence Act 1989, A1989-11 R26, and pay note of section 171A and the definition of simple cannabis offence

Damn it Inappropriate, is it or isn’t it??

Depending on your answer a few of us will be doing some gardening this coming weekend…

harvyk1 said :

As far as I know, in the ACT it’s 5 plants for personal use only. Under that amount the police have the power to confiscate the plants, and hit you with a small fine, but nothing more.

It’s 1-2 plants, and a $100 fine.

Brindabella,

Two things, one for you to be charged with procession of a certain quantity of drugs, then every gram of that must be the drug in question. They can not include things like the soil in that weight.

As far as I know, in the ACT it’s 5 plants for personal use only. Under that amount the police have the power to confiscate the plants, and hit you with a small fine, but nothing more.

Luckly the police can’t just make stuff up as they go along, and whilst the law does leave loads of room for interpretation in the wording, the amounts are usually actual numbers.

In any case I doubt that jacobb9595 has too much to worry about. I doubt one plant sitting in a cupboard isn’t really worth police time to try and track him down (at least not in the ACT). It’s not like the 200km/h + guy…

Brindabella said :

Inappropriate said :

preacher said :

Isn’t growing a small amount deCRIMinalised in the ACT, but still illegal?

I haven’t watched the video, but it’s only decriminalised if you’re growing the plant naturally i.e., outdoors in soil. Growing it indoors with artificial lights, or hydroponically is not legal.

Wrong!

Growing dope is illegal. Possessing dope is illegal. Smoking dope is illegal. Selling dope is illegal.

I never said it was legal, I said it was decriminalised. I suggest you read a dictionary, then read the Drugs of Dependence Act 1989, A1989-11 R26, and pay note of section 171A and the definition of simple cannabis offence

I would suggest either way if you are caught and prosecuted under either section, it could come back to haunt you one day. Its purely about saving the courts’ time, rather than diminishing the severity of the offence.

Inappropriate said :

preacher said :

Isn’t growing a small amount deCRIMinalised in the ACT, but still illegal?

I haven’t watched the video, but it’s only decriminalised if you’re growing the plant naturally i.e., outdoors in soil. Growing it indoors with artificial lights, or hydroponically is not legal.

Wrong!

Growing dope is illegal. Possessing dope is illegal. Smoking dope is illegal. Selling dope is illegal.

If caught and charged for any of the above things, you may go through the decriminalized section of the law if the police want/allow you to. Remember that police have discretionary powers which mean that you can be charged and prosecuted under an entirely different set of legislation.

For example.

It may be decriminalized to only have a certain amount of plants growing….however if the police decide to weigh the whole plant, soil, pot and rootstock of your plants, the combined weight of your dope can put you into a traffic-able quantity of marijuana = court time, criminal offense.

Also, if you share a joint with someone….is that joint only 2 grams of dope, or is it trafficking, pushing, or something else!? The police will decide that for you…

Yawn. If he thinks that’s really taken off, as old man Kerrigan said in The Castle “Tell him he’s dreaming”

Let’s just say I heard from a friend who knew a bloke who’s mate reckoned: You need a lot more light and metal halide at that do produce anything more than the weedy stunted runt he’s got. 🙂

Happy 15th birthday Jacob B! I thought I’d get in early for May 9!

So would the feds refer to him as a “Mr Big” with a sophisticated hydroponic set up?
Is what is pictured going to be heavily over-valued by the Police?
Is $30,000.00 worth of cannibis pictured?

I say, Good on him! Take the power and money away from the dealers.

preacher said :

Isn’t growing a small amount deCRIMinalised in the ACT, but still illegal?

I haven’t watched the video, but it’s only decriminalised if you’re growing the plant naturally i.e., outdoors in soil. Growing it indoors with artificial lights, or hydroponically is not legal.

dragging this off-topic for a little bit.

Jacob is wasting his time – when the intertubes filter goes online this will be blocked…

Isn’t growing a small amount deCRIMinalised in the ACT, but still illegal?

If jacobb9595 gets fined, then so should all the cyclists crossing the pedestrian crossings without dismounting.

Does Jacob mention where to get seeds? That’s the hardest step. The rest is easy. It grows like a weed (pun intented)

Once he starts distilling his brews… THEN he’s a full blown crim!