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Julian Assange protest comes to Canberra

By johnboy - 11 December 2010 48

Assange van [As seen in the Inner North]

Facebook brings word of a “Protest to Defend Wikileaks and Julian Assange – Canberra”, set to happen in Garema Place next Thursday.

Join the protests around Australia and the world to defend Assange and Wikileaks. The Canberra demo will be on Thursday the 16th of December – two days after Assange’s next court appearance.

Spread the word.

Briefly some thoughts on this:

    1. A lot of people are projecting their own fantasies onto Julian Assange.
    2. Almost nothing has been leaked that is news to anyone who was paying attention to the world in the first place.
    3. The actual leaker Bradley Manning is likely to die in prison making Julian Assange a hero for very little actual increase in public knowledge.
    4. Get a subscription to The Economist if you have been taken by surprise by wikileaks revelations and would like to keep up from here on in.
    5. Have a thought to your future security clearances if you start taking part in Assange protests, and remember you could get jail time for joining the “Anonymous” payback attacks.
    6. You’re a grown up, make up your own mind.

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UPDATE: The Register is now drawing attention to the fact that Bradley Manning’s defence fund has not had one red cent out of Wikileaks.

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jasmine 10:36 am 13 Dec 10

Wikileaks is an information sites – they do not seek out information and as such only publish information they are supplied. Assange’s hero status is probably not wanted by Wikileaks or him, other than to bring attention to the idea of information access.

Why is everyone so scared to be apprised of what actually happens behind closed doors – actions that are supposedley done on our behalf. When did democracy become so conditioned to what others decide for us and who arrogantly asserts what we should or should not know.

Much of what has been revealed thus far is stuff we already know through other media sources and from working and living in Canberra for umpteen years, many working in various departments.

Assange/Wikileaks should not be condemmed for doing exactly what every other media outlet does. In fact Wikileaks does not make comment or give an opinion – it is all out there for individuals to form their own conclusions.

Nothing criminal in that.

Mr Waffle 1:57 am 12 Dec 10

homeone said :

What I wonder about these are it seems unlikely that one person could download 250,000 documents one at a time. It seems to infer that the person had some sort of special access to SIPRNet (an IT person?).

The wikipedia entry for Bradley Manning, the person suspected of it, covers the details-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Manning

“Manning was an intelligence analyst assigned to a support battalion with the 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain Division at Contingency Operating Station Hammer, Iraq.

While stationed in Iraq, Manning had access to SIPRNET from his workstation, from where it is alleged the leaked documents originated.

According to chat logs, Manning brought in CD-RWs containing music, which were subsequently erased and rewritten with the leaked documents.”

And Skidbladnir helpfully explained why the system would allow such a thing, at the bottom of the first page.

Mr Evil 6:49 pm 11 Dec 10

I’m not so sure that Assange is the hero so many people make him out to be.

He lost the tiny, tiny amount of respect I had for him when he was unable to say whether all the names of people who’d assisted coalition forces had been removed in the Iraq and Afghanistan material that Wikileaks released earlier this year. It seemed to me that he was more interested in getting the information out as quickly as possible and getting himself in the news, rather than give a damn about what may happen if Al-Qaeda and/or the Taliban got hold of any of the named civilians.

As Jon Stewart basically said on the Daily Show: none of this material shocks America anymore – we’re talking about a nation whose Government sold weapons to Iran to fund a war in Latin America…..

homeone 4:11 pm 11 Dec 10

What I wonder about these are it seems unlikely that one person could download 250,000 documents one at a time. It seems to infer that the person had some sort of special access to SIPRNet (an IT person?).

Also it it seems to me that a great deal more than 250,000 documents would exist on the system so what were the selection criteria (and who decided on those).

I guess it all boils down to a piss poor decision to start with to make them available to so many US civil servants and military!

Not that much of the contents are surprising and a lot can be discounted as pure gossip and quite understandably exagarated. For example Mark Arbibe being a ‘confidential source’ – say you’re a low level State Department employee posted to a backwater then you’re probably going to call the guy who dumps the Chronicle on your lawn a ‘confidential source’ so you can find an excuse to send a cable to Washington.

vg 4:10 pm 11 Dec 10

My favourite arguments are thus:

The right to free speech – Absolute nonsense. Speech is not free. If it was we wouldn’t have things like libel and defamation law, freedom of information laws, or laws that cover secrecy of communications.

We live in a free country – No we do not. We live in a democracy. We have laws that legally confine our behaviour. If people who advocate this would like to live in a free country the nearest thing I can think of is Somalia. People seem to do pretty much what they like in a lot of that place. Try moving there.

Let’s see how the rape situation plays out in Sweden before we beatify Mr. Assange, or Mr. Ass Anger as he may be known if he ends up in the pokey

Pommy bastard 3:44 pm 11 Dec 10

Assagne has not been charged with rape. Both the “victims” in this bunch of trumped up hooey have admitted that sex was consensual.

Have you ever known such a thing as an interpol red notice being issued on such flimsy grounds?

The CIA is behind this, mark my words.

Skidbladnir 1:29 pm 11 Dec 10

pepmeup said :

If he is a rapist who cares about anything else he can never be a hero.

Rape never stopped Roman Polanski, the entertainment industry as a whole seems to be too proud of him to stop giving him awards, and Europe refused to hand him over to the US when they last tried to extradite him even though he fled there after admitting guilt and to avoid sentencing.
Why the international cooperation this time? Assange is the figurehead of an inconvenient group (but still a figurehead) that poses a threat.

I’m not saying Assange did or didn’t do what he’s accused of in Sweden, but the actors are dirty, there’s a lot of grandstanding from everybody involved (both alleged victims and offenders, but legal teams too), and a definite possibility of subsequent extradition showcase and trial media circus if the US decide to charge him too.

bigfeet 1:26 pm 11 Dec 10

Eyeball In A Quart Jar Of Snot said :

There are no ‘rape’ allegations.

There are no doubts that the sex was consensual with both women.

But his condom broke. “Sex by surprise”.

Bizarre Swedish laws.

There is nothing bizarre about the law at all. If consent is granted conditional on use of a condom and that condition is not met, then there is no consent.

It would be Rape (sexual intercourse without consent) in any Australian state as well.

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