Just how many landcruisers do the cops have?

Keijidosha said :

Pork Hunt said :

Keijidosha said :

I think the valid question to be asked is do the AFP really need $80,000+ Landcruisers? There are plenty of capable 4×4’s available at half that price.

Such as ?

Holden Colorado, Isuzu D-Max, Nissan Navara, Toyota Hilux… just to name a few.

Great Wall 4×4 at $22,990 drive away
I’m sure the TRG have suits and masks they could wear while driving them as they do have some asbestos parts. But at that price who cares

Sandman said :

How do you think they access all the dope plantations on the south coast? Not going to get an LPG Falcon in there.

I doubt they pay retail price either. I know a couple of farmers that always seem to have brand new Prado’s because if they sell it in the first couple of years they can get the same as what they paid new with their primary producers discount. Imagine the fleet pricing the cops get on them.

No they dont pay retail bud, your right… having worked for Dasfleet in a previous life, fleet cars are not charged at the RRP, far from it.. whether they are 4 bangers, larger cars or 4wd’s. .

Keijidosha said :

I think the valid question to be asked is do the AFP really need $80,000+ Landcruisers? There are plenty of capable 4×4’s available at half that price.

Certain models of vehicles lend themselves to certain modifications, Toyota Landcruiser 200s are one such vehicle that modifiers are comfortable and experienced with.

You can bet given the age of those vehicles and certain visual cues that they aren’t typical factor fleet models.

ATypicalUsername said :

I think the point is not only do they have so many four wheel drives, but they have so many unmarked four wheel drives.
Surely you only need a few unmarked cars, and of those, you really don’t need ANY 4X4s. Surely one or two would be fine for most situations, if you really do need the utility such a vehicle provides, why not bring in one of the many fully painted police SUV/4X4s?

Hm, this is a weird comment. We’ve gone from berating the Police for buying expensive cars, to berating them for not splashing out on expensive livery.

A lot of ACT Policing vehicles are unmarked, including Ford Territories, Ford Falcon utes, Toyota Aurions, and some Holden Commodores.

Having those large, unmarked 4x4s serves a number of purposes, some of which probably less important now that they have the Bearcat.

Evacuation from dangerous situations is one.

Storage of specialist equipment, you can bet there’s safes in the back.

Entry into dangerous environments, hence the grab bars around the roof line.

Covert/surprise interdiction.

When Police choose vehicles, they need to consider even minute things like how quickly someone in certain gear and holding certain equipment can get in and out of the vehicle. When you look at the designs of a lot of vehicles now, they go for sleek style of utilitarian aspects. So even that substantially limits the choices.

Not a problem at all, a very justified resource for them.

I do think something that should be questioned is having every Police car a large sedan. When you compare the SRG vehicles to comparable over seas units, they’re not as fancy. But when you compare the broader fleet to overseas Police, we definitely take after the Americans and their beloved Crown Vic rather than British and European police. Hopefully when the Commodore and Falcon get culled after 2015, local Police will be a bit more creative. Larger engine area cars and highway cars, and smaller general duties vehicles with Di engines.

How do you think they access all the dope plantations on the south coast? Not going to get an LPG Falcon in there.

I doubt they pay retail price either. I know a couple of farmers that always seem to have brand new Prado’s because if they sell it in the first couple of years they can get the same as what they paid new with their primary producers discount. Imagine the fleet pricing the cops get on them.

bigM said :

Keijidosha said :

Keep your shirt on, Pitchka! I’m not concerned about what it costs to equip our Police with the equipment they need, but a luxury 4×4 does strike me as slightly exorbitant, perhaps because I’m ignorant of features that the Landcruiser offers that the AFP need. Can you enlighten me?

(FYI: I know the difference between a dual cab and wagon 4×4, but besides the enclosed cargo area I can see no practical difference, hence my original question. Again, I’m happy to be educated!)

i can only imagine they carry around some serious gear in the back of those cruiser that probably isnt likely to last very long in the back of a dual cab is a pretty good reason. Plus have you ever sat in the back of a dual cab ute,hardly enough room for a small child, let alone adults with a good few kilos of equipment on.

plus everyone knows that cruisers are the best 4wd’s

SHUT UP, YOUR MAKING SENSE…

Keijidosha said :

Keep your shirt on, Pitchka! I’m not concerned about what it costs to equip our Police with the equipment they need, but a luxury 4×4 does strike me as slightly exorbitant, perhaps because I’m ignorant of features that the Landcruiser offers that the AFP need. Can you enlighten me?

(FYI: I know the difference between a dual cab and wagon 4×4, but besides the enclosed cargo area I can see no practical difference, hence my original question. Again, I’m happy to be educated!)

i can only imagine they carry around some serious gear in the back of those cruiser that probably isnt likely to last very long in the back of a dual cab is a pretty good reason. Plus have you ever sat in the back of a dual cab ute,hardly enough room for a small child, let alone adults with a good few kilos of equipment on.

plus everyone knows that cruisers are the best 4wd’s

I think we’ve all seen unmarked Landcruisers pulling over motorists, which seems to imply they are ACT Policing vehicles. It’s possible they’re being used as “deep cover” – who would suspect police to be driving an $80k unmarked Landcruiser? I even saw one with Qld plates a year or so ago, had pulled over a car on the Monaro Hwy. Are the Qld plates even more “deep cover”, or had it been transferred from AFP in Qld and they hadn’t got around to changing the registration?

IP

c_c™ said :

They also have an armoured bearcat, a fleet of armoured BMW X5s based in Canberra, jet-skis and auxiliary vehicles for special tasks.

They also have a number of Jeep Cherokee’s with Hemi’s running around, Subaru Forester’s, Ford Territory’s etc

Haven’t seen them in a Chery yet.

Keep your shirt on, Pitchka! I’m not concerned about what it costs to equip our Police with the equipment they need, but a luxury 4×4 does strike me as slightly exorbitant, perhaps because I’m ignorant of features that the Landcruiser offers that the AFP need. Can you enlighten me?

(FYI: I know the difference between a dual cab and wagon 4×4, but besides the enclosed cargo area I can see no practical difference, hence my original question. Again, I’m happy to be educated!)

They aren’t Police vehicles

Keijidosha said :

Pork Hunt said :

Keijidosha said :

I think the valid question to be asked is do the AFP really need $80,000+ Landcruisers? There are plenty of capable 4×4’s available at half that price.

Such as ?

Holden Colorado, Isuzu D-Max, Nissan Navara, Toyota Hilux… just to name a few.

And further to this post, do any of the Landcruisers pictures look like Dual cabs to you? of which all your suggestions are (some even come in single cab)? Nice to see you know the difference….

Keijidosha said :

I think the valid question to be asked is do the AFP really need $80,000+ Landcruisers? There are plenty of capable 4×4’s available at half that price.

And what sort of capabilities do you think an AFP 4WD needs to have, or are you just focussed on price?
Its a vehicle used for law enforcement. I dont see you complaining about countless SES Officers in the APS who get $40 -$50k vehicles, for nothing other than private use.

Pork Hunt said :

Keijidosha said :

I think the valid question to be asked is do the AFP really need $80,000+ Landcruisers? There are plenty of capable 4×4’s available at half that price.

Such as ?

Holden Colorado, Isuzu D-Max, Nissan Navara, Toyota Hilux… just to name a few.

Keijidosha said :

I think the valid question to be asked is do the AFP really need $80,000+ Landcruisers? There are plenty of capable 4×4’s available at half that price.

Such as ?

ATypicalUsername said :

I think the point is not only do they have so many four wheel drives, but they have so many unmarked four wheel drives.
Surely you only need a few unmarked cars, and of those, you really don’t need ANY 4X4s. Surely one or two would be fine for most situations, if you really do need the utility such a vehicle provides, why not bring in one of the many fully painted police SUV/4X4s?

Yeah, but it’s a bit harder to use a marked 4WD as the family car on weekend etc, isn’t it? Hahahaha! 🙂

ATypicalUsername said :

I think the point is not only do they have so many four wheel drives, but they have so many unmarked four wheel drives.
Surely you only need a few unmarked cars, and of those, you really don’t need ANY 4X4s. Surely one or two would be fine for most situations, if you really do need the utility such a vehicle provides, why not bring in one of the many fully painted police SUV/4X4s?

I’m sure the “bad guys” will wait for the SRG to borrow another divisions vehicle, or maybe they can check with the SRG beforehand to make sure they can actually turn up to the party?

I think the valid question to be asked is do the AFP really need $80,000+ Landcruisers? There are plenty of capable 4×4’s available at half that price.

I think the point is not only do they have so many four wheel drives, but they have so many unmarked four wheel drives.
Surely you only need a few unmarked cars, and of those, you really don’t need ANY 4X4s. Surely one or two would be fine for most situations, if you really do need the utility such a vehicle provides, why not bring in one of the many fully painted police SUV/4X4s?

200 Series?? Pfft.

I’d say it’s a bunch of soccer mums watching reruns of Ellen.

Ozi said :

This may alarm some but they may have more than 10 patrol cars too….

shhhhhhh though, that’s classified.

ACT Policing Fleet: 197 motor vehicles, 27 motorcycles

Ozi said :

This may alarm some but they may have more than 10 patrol cars too….

shhhhhhh though, that’s classified.

Where? Never seen one…

This may alarm some but they may have more than 10 patrol cars too….

shhhhhhh though, that’s classified.

P1, do you do realise that the AFP does more than Police the ACT?

“It set me to wondering just how many such vehicles a city the size of Canberra needs?”

Well those dough-nuts aren’t going to fetch themselves.

So what is the OP’s problem, doesn’t like the cops buying 4x4s?

They also have an armoured bearcat, a fleet of armoured BMW X5s based in Canberra, jet-skis and auxiliary vehicles for special tasks.

Doesn’t seem unreasonable, particular since the SRS and ORG were merged last year to form a single Canberra based division called SRG.

It’s not like their buying custom built BMW estate wagons for armed patrol cars like the Met does for CO19.

They obviously know more about the Zombie Apocalypse and Reptoid Invasions than we do. Trust me, when you’re driving waist deep through battered zombies you’re going to be thankful you have a snorkel to protect yourself from their blood.

I spent some good years at these 2 buildings. When are they due to be demolished ?