29 September 2005

Labor Club to open on Petrie Plaza

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The old Angus and Robertson by the Merry Go Round was one of the worst book shops it has ever been my misfortune to step foot in.

Brendan Smyth now brings news that the site of that pox on literacy is to be the new Civic location for the Labor Club.

Brendan is aghast that a licenced club is to be allowed above ground in Civic. Which would appear to miss the point that to the average punter the legal status of the liquor licence is at best a curiousity, and many bars in civic are above ground.

That no-one wants to drink at a Liberal Club is indeed a tragedy, that wheels would appear (note: appear) to have been greased for a Club with commercial ties to the Government is a broader concern.

As usual Brendan has buried his lead.

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TeddySWright9:36 pm 04 Jul 21

No, that Angus & Robertson bookshop in Petrie Plaza was the best. Catherine was a gem. It’s a shame books were replaced with pokies.

elect bonfire to teh assembly and i will:

ban all pokies.

let people smoke.

i need a campaign mamanger – any takers ?

The affiliation between the Canberra Labor Club and the Labor Party is a hindrance if anything. The Labor Party makes a conscious effort NOT to grease wheels or show any favouritism to the Club to avoid the spotlight and media publicity. I was told that the proposed site and contract was agreed over a beer at a barbeque and has not been successful as yet to pass through the government’s approval procedures. As for the City Club? Sore losers! The effect of non-smoking laws in December 2006 has been on every clubs agenda for the last 3 years and the City Club (Being under ground) has failed to act and accommodate this inevitable change….. Like I said, sore losers!

Is this a case of the Labour Party using their power in majority government to steamroll planning and location issues, or have I missed the point completely ?

Quite frankly, I think that pokie machines should be adapted so that they take your credit card directly. If you’re that dumb to use them, so be it.

Again, this is nature’s way of decimating those who are too stupid to hold onto their resources, and frankly, I’m surprised they have managed to amass such wealth in the first place that they can afford to blow it.

Gambling addiction in medical terms is regarded as a disease. I protest this definition, as a disease by the very nature of the word, indicates something that you can catch. (such as a cold)

There is a limitation of responsibility, where if I DECIDE to put all my money into a gamble, I have DECIDED to allocate that money into it. There is no FORCIBLE cause, other than compulsion, to put my money into the machine.

What that means in laymans terms is if I’m weak willed enough to go waste my money, I don’t expect support from the Government when I turn around and say I’ve run out of money and can’t pay my bills etc.

So this whole debate about putting gambling machines next to ATM’s is a bit irrelevant. If people don’t have the willpower to not gamble, the onus is on them to avoid temptation. A bit like Alcoholics Anonymous really.

Although, if the planning requirements of the city indicate that they shouldn’t be placed in immediate vicinity, then it’s time to ask Seven Story Simon just what the hell he thinks he is doing, cause it certainly isn’t Planning.

just remember Roslyn Dundas’ legacy that pokie club ATM’s now only give out $20 notes and not $50’s
which supposedly cut pokie takings by 20% for some clubs when it first happened, but I’m sure they’ve made up the shortfall since then

f**king poker machine bastard peddling wankers. That is all i have to say.

All the pokie revenue should be diverted to funding light rail.

And Bonfire, please, for the love of God, never quote the Whitlams again, ok? 🙂

The ATM angle seems pretty irrelevant from here – are there any clubs anywhere that don’t have them onsite.

As for the rest, I think that the trade off for clubs having pokies should be providing live entertainment – surely it couldn’t be that hard.

Why is there no liberal club? (not that I’d go mind but I would’ve thought the champions of private enterprise…)

Samuel Gordon-Stewart10:00 am 30 Sep 05

Sorry, it was late and it looked like “head” from my angle. Obviously my misreading led me to push Brendan’s point of view, just because I thought it was being hidden.

I will say this though, I think we shouldn’t have ATMs next to poker machines…nor should we have banks next door to pokie places. I would be interested to hear what the comrade has to say as his silence so far indicates he is guilty of mischief.

I also remember hearing something about laws being passed 12 months ago which enabled this whole thing…were the ALP waiting for a nice vacant spot?

i wish they would blow up the pokies…

Thumper, what do you mean warehousing of pokies?

Correct me if I’m wrong, but this is just the Labor Party Club looking for another suitable, well-located den to fleece the inner-city punter (local residents and idle lunchers alike).

Above ground location will provide the opportunity to show-off the ‘bling bling’ of the personal income extractors…

The Canberra Labor Club pumps a shitload of money into junior and senior sport as it is.
Seems like it was just a slow news day to me.

The only issue for me is the proximity of banks. I have to agree with Brenden – giving punters teh ability to pop next door and withdraw 1000 from their credit card is a bit harsh. I know gambling is a tax on stupidity but that is taking it a bit far I reckon …

The Canberra Club and the current City Labor Club are above ground, they’re not quite in the center of town but I’d say they’re still in ‘Civic’.

What’s the fact that the new club will be above ground got to do with anything?

Will this somehow increase profits or something?

And the more I think about it the more Brendan’s relationship with the Civic Club bears scrutiny, as he seems to be arguing from a club manager’s perspective not a punters.

LEAD sam, burying his LEAD.

The only issue is whether the Labor Club is getting corrupt favours from the Labor Government.

Competition with other clubs and cafes I care naught for, the presence of nearby banks (when clubs have ATM’s inside) is meaningless, the altitude of the club is irrelevant.

the unusual poker machine warehousing on the other hand, and the exact process for their planning application, is very interesting indeed.

if I had a time machine I’d warn the city planners 50 years ago to stricly limit poker machines in clubs to 20 per club. then we’d see clubs being clubs, not the dodgy private empires they have become.

Samuel Gordon-Stewart12:32 am 30 Sep 05

I just heard Brendan on WIN News Late Edition and he was in full rant mode, he had a lot to say and certainly didn’t seem to be burying his head. He was instead concerned that the Labor Club would divert pokie funds from the City Club (and then on to local junior soccer teams) to the Labor Party.

He also seemed concerned about a Bank being next door and another one opposite…and then he went on about the cheap meals costing the cafes business.

Stanhope was nowhere to be seen, instead he was announcing some horrid plan to the old powerhouse into ax extension of the ANU glassworks…and a bunch of people who seemed to look similar to him were providing guided tours of something that isn’t there yet.

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