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Manuka Oval Hydration Policy for PM’s 11

By Purgatroyd 14 January 2014 36

I’m going to the cricket this arvo with my two boys; knowing that its going to be hot, I’m planning for our hydration. I’m intending to take some soft drinks (three sealed 1250 ml plastic bottles) and some ice (frozen tap water in used 1250ml plastic soft drink bottles). I’ve heard some chatter on 666 ABC that my unsealed ice bottles may not be permitted (but nothing on the sealed soft drink bottles) but I’ve not been able to find out anything definitive on the Manuka Oval website. Cricket Australia has decreed in its ‘2013-14 Conditions of Ticket Purchase and Entry to the Venue’ (with which I had to agree to buy the tickets) that (inter alia) ‘no alcohol, glass, cans… may be brought into the venue’ (clause 8) and ‘that [patrons] are required to take appropriate care for their sun protection and hydration’ (clause 14).

In the complete absence of official info on the venue website, does anyone have a more definitive /authoritative response?

Cheers,

Purgy

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maxblues 6:12 pm 15 Jan 14

Gismondo said :

maxblues said :

Ghettosmurf87 said :

Thumper said :

Gismondo said :

I was surprised that there were no players from WA or SA selected and I thought there were only four ‘recognised’ batsmen. After the ‘performance’ yesterday, maybe even their mothers won’t recognise them. Cruel to be kind in the right measure…(Yes HC that’s ’79, ’81 and ’82 on RA in the last week…your turn)

Only players from the Heat & Stars were made available (+ B Lee from Sixers). They could have picked D Hussey and C White from Stars to balance the order

Yes, I suppose Strikers and Scorchers are playing in Perth tomorrow night and the BBL are playing for sheep stations whereas the PM’s XI didn’t even rate a mention on the one sports segment I saw on the Today show early next morning. Possibly if the game tomorrow night was anywhere but Perth…?

Gismondo 5:46 pm 15 Jan 14

maxblues said :

Ghettosmurf87 said :

Thumper said :

Gismondo said :

I was surprised that there were no players from WA or SA selected and I thought there were only four ‘recognised’ batsmen. After the ‘performance’ yesterday, maybe even their mothers won’t recognise them. Cruel to be kind in the right measure…(Yes HC that’s ’79, ’81 and ’82 on RA in the last week…your turn)

Only players from the Heat & Stars were made available (+ B Lee from Sixers). They could have picked D Hussey and C White from Stars to balance the order

thatsnotme 4:32 pm 15 Jan 14

Postalgeek said :

Purgatroyd said :

Postalgeek said :

[Really? You want to kick up a stink because drink inspection wasn’t officious enough during a heatwave?

Postalgeek – did you read the words in my post or are you much more accepting of disorganisation than me? I’m merely asking why the organisation behind this annual event could be so lax. Its not as if it has come out of the blue!

When rules that impose additional cost or seem petty – like size restrictions and the requirement that bottles of water be sealed – are relaxed, I’ve learnt to stay quiet.

I haven’t commented about any other aspects of perceived disorganisation.

That’s not the point though. The lax bag checks weren’t about turning a blind eye to larger bottles of water, or making sure open bottles were empty, etc etc. It’s more the fact that the only purpose they seemed to have was to slow people down.

Perhaps they are just a way of spotting people who seem nervous about opening their bags, but if you walked up and opened your bag a bit so the security guy could glance inside, you were in. The guy in front of me had an esky on wheels kinda affair – it was full of ice with a few soft drinks floating at the top. There could have been anything underneath, and nobody would ever have known.

I take your point about not complaining about rules being relaxed, but relaxing rules which aren’t properly enforced in the first place isn’t much of a win really. I suspect that they don’t actually care what people bring in, but the spectre of bag checks is really designed to just make normal law abiding people follow the stadium rules – whether they’re designed for safety, or to help the people running the food and drink stands make a buck.

Postalgeek 3:51 pm 15 Jan 14

Purgatroyd said :

Postalgeek said :

[Really? You want to kick up a stink because drink inspection wasn’t officious enough during a heatwave?

Postalgeek – did you read the words in my post or are you much more accepting of disorganisation than me? I’m merely asking why the organisation behind this annual event could be so lax. Its not as if it has come out of the blue!

When rules that impose additional cost or seem petty – like size restrictions and the requirement that bottles of water be sealed – are relaxed, I’ve learnt to stay quiet.

I haven’t commented about any other aspects of perceived disorganisation.

Purgatroyd 3:24 pm 15 Jan 14

Postalgeek said :

[Really? You want to kick up a stink because drink inspection wasn’t officious enough during a heatwave?

Postalgeek – did you read the words in my post or are you much more accepting of disorganisation than me? I’m merely asking why the organisation behind this annual event could be so lax. Its not as if it has come out of the blue!

Postalgeek 2:18 pm 15 Jan 14

Purgatroyd said :

Not that I’m a student of organisational theory, but when an organisation makes up a set of rules (with strict criteria) then comprehensively fails to enforce them, it makes you wonder at their ability to organise in the first place.

By the time I set off to the cricket yesterday, there had been no official word on the Manuka Oval /Cricket Australia /Startrack Stadium website to formally revise the drinks restrictions – despite the clear and careful advice posted by the ACT Emergency Services people and the conflicting advice spread by 666 ABC radio. Nevertheless, I took in as sufficient a stock of fluids as commonsense would dictate and anticipated having to argue my case with the bag-nazis and ditch the rest. Guess what – that didn’t happen! The bag search was a cursory affair and my large bottles of softy and unsealed bottles of ice went through without a second glance (literally!).

I now feel entitled to ask: ‘why have rules if you don’t intend to (or cannot) enforce them in the first place?’ And don’t get me started on the ‘policy’ and ‘procedure’ for controlling people crossing through the ‘sight screens’ behind the bowler’s arm.

Sadly, in the end, the game didn’t last long enough for us to drink all our fluids but I did enjoy watching Binger, both with ball and later with bat.

Purgy

Really? You want to kick up a stink because drink inspection wasn’t officious enough during a heatwave?

Thumper 2:09 pm 15 Jan 14

Ghettosmurf87 said :

Thumper said :

Gismondo said :

Is somebody going to start up a separate thread about the farcical nature of the selection policy. Based on last night’s effort, if we are going to protect the interests of the T20 comp then there will be much fewer patrons requiring hydration next year.

Yeah, a team with a state number 9 batting at five and an Under 19 with no first class experience batting at three.

That was embarrassing.

Ummmm? I think you mean Cutting batting at 6 who usually bats at 8 &/or 9 for QLD and Ben McDermott batting at 4?

I agree that the composition of the team was ridiculous though. 6 out and out bowlers, of which Cutting was as close as you get to an all-rounder, but he’s hardly a number 6. And 5 batsmen which included the wicketkeeper…who does that?!? I don’t know how much involvement the PM actually has in the selections, but that was atrocious.

Sorry. heat must have addled my brain.

Yes, McDermott did bat four and Cutting six. But my original statement stands, the PMsXI had no-one who could bat.

Rose at seven? HS in first class cricket, 21 or so.

Handscomb, a good no 7 opening?

Anyway, still a good day out 🙂

Thumper 2:01 pm 15 Jan 14

IrishPete said :

Gismondo said :

Is somebody going to start up a separate thread about the farcical nature of the selection policy. Based on last night’s effort, if we are going to protect the interests of the T20 comp then there will be much fewer patrons requiring hydration next year.

Does Tony Abbott select them? Perhaps he needs more women in the team/squad/platoon, whatever you call it.

IP

CA selects the side.

IrishPete 1:54 pm 15 Jan 14

Alderney said :

If Abbott is that bad at selecting teams, it doesn’t bode well for his cabinet.

Sorry about not culling excess quotes but I’m using the phone and it’s just too difficult.

That’ll be one of dem smart phones then…

IP

Holden Caulfield 1:41 pm 15 Jan 14

maxblues said :

(Yes HC that’s ’79, ’81 and ’82 on RA in the last week…your turn)

The correct and only appropriate response to those three magnificent years!

Purgatroyd 1:29 pm 15 Jan 14

Not that I’m a student of organisational theory, but when an organisation makes up a set of rules (with strict criteria) then comprehensively fails to enforce them, it makes you wonder at their ability to organise in the first place.

By the time I set off to the cricket yesterday, there had been no official word on the Manuka Oval /Cricket Australia /Startrack Stadium website to formally revise the drinks restrictions – despite the clear and careful advice posted by the ACT Emergency Services people and the conflicting advice spread by 666 ABC radio. Nevertheless, I took in as sufficient a stock of fluids as commonsense would dictate and anticipated having to argue my case with the bag-nazis and ditch the rest. Guess what – that didn’t happen! The bag search was a cursory affair and my large bottles of softy and unsealed bottles of ice went through without a second glance (literally!).

I now feel entitled to ask: ‘why have rules if you don’t intend to (or cannot) enforce them in the first place?’ And don’t get me started on the ‘policy’ and ‘procedure’ for controlling people crossing through the ‘sight screens’ behind the bowler’s arm.

Sadly, in the end, the game didn’t last long enough for us to drink all our fluids but I did enjoy watching Binger, both with ball and later with bat.

Purgy

maxblues 12:12 pm 15 Jan 14

Ghettosmurf87 said :

Thumper said :

Gismondo said :

Is somebody going to start up a separate thread about the farcical nature of the selection policy. Based on last night’s effort, if we are going to protect the interests of the T20 comp then there will be much fewer patrons requiring hydration next year.

Yeah, a team with a state number 9 batting at five and an Under 19 with no first class experience batting at three.

That was embarrassing.

Ummmm? I think you mean Cutting batting at 6 who usually bats at 8 &/or 9 for QLD and Ben McDermott batting at 4?

I agree that the composition of the team was ridiculous though. 6 out and out bowlers, of which Cutting was as close as you get to an all-rounder, but he’s hardly a number 6. And 5 batsmen which included the wicketkeeper…who does that?!? I don’t know how much involvement the PM actually has in the selections, but that was atrocious.

I was surprised that there were no players from WA or SA selected and I thought there were only four ‘recognised’ batsmen. After the ‘performance’ yesterday, maybe even their mothers won’t recognise them. Cruel to be kind in the right measure…(Yes HC that’s ’79, ’81 and ’82 on RA in the last week…your turn)

Alderney 11:40 am 15 Jan 14

Ghettosmurf87 said :

Thumper said :

Gismondo said :

Is somebody going to start up a separate thread about the farcical nature of the selection policy. Based on last night’s effort, if we are going to protect the interests of the T20 comp then there will be much fewer patrons requiring hydration next year.

Yeah, a team with a state number 9 batting at five and an Under 19 with no first class experience batting at three.

That was embarrassing.

Ummmm? I think you mean Cutting batting at 6 who usually bats at 8 &/or 9 for QLD and Ben McDermott batting at 4?

I agree that the composition of the team was ridiculous though. 6 out and out bowlers, of which Cutting was as close as you get to an all-rounder, but he’s hardly a number 6. And 5 batsmen which included the wicketkeeper…who does that?!? I don’t know how much involvement the PM actually has in the selections, but that was atrocious.

If Abbott is that bad at selecting teams, it doesn’t bode well for his cabinet.

Sorry about not culling excess quotes but I’m using the phone and it’s just too difficult.

IrishPete 11:39 am 15 Jan 14

Gismondo said :

Is somebody going to start up a separate thread about the farcical nature of the selection policy. Based on last night’s effort, if we are going to protect the interests of the T20 comp then there will be much fewer patrons requiring hydration next year.

Does Tony Abbott select them? Perhaps he needs more women in the team/squad/platoon, whatever you call it.

IP

Ghettosmurf87 11:11 am 15 Jan 14

Thumper said :

Gismondo said :

Is somebody going to start up a separate thread about the farcical nature of the selection policy. Based on last night’s effort, if we are going to protect the interests of the T20 comp then there will be much fewer patrons requiring hydration next year.

Yeah, a team with a state number 9 batting at five and an Under 19 with no first class experience batting at three.

That was embarrassing.

Ummmm? I think you mean Cutting batting at 6 who usually bats at 8 &/or 9 for QLD and Ben McDermott batting at 4?

I agree that the composition of the team was ridiculous though. 6 out and out bowlers, of which Cutting was as close as you get to an all-rounder, but he’s hardly a number 6. And 5 batsmen which included the wicketkeeper…who does that?!? I don’t know how much involvement the PM actually has in the selections, but that was atrocious.

MrBigEars 10:09 am 15 Jan 14

thatsnotme said :

To be honest, the OP needn’t have been worried, because the bag searches were nothing short of a joke. A disinterested looking security guard taking a cursory glance into a bag and passing you through if nothing jumps out as being wrong achieves nothing but slowing down the line to get into the game.

I could easily have had a bottle of scotch and a 6-pack in my bag today, and I would have been passed through no questions asked.

I have heard from security types that bag searches are less about looking in actual bags, but useful in identifying people who are nervous about having their bags searched.

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