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Moron in Mitchell

By Br1anL 16 March 2011 36

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On Friday night my wife and I watched this moron (ACT Rego YZN 659) put the lives of the passengers of three different cars at risk as he took his commodore three times around the round-a-bout sideways leaving a trail of rubber and smoke. 

Each time he came back around I watched fearing that if he lost control he would slam into the side of me. 

Keep an eye out for this car on our roads.

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Tooks 1:55 pm 17 Mar 11

EvanJames said :

Tooks said :

So you could’ve made a statement and gone to court, but you decided not to. Your decision.

So many people recounting instances of police indifference when these things are reported, and you persist in saying that it’s the citizen’s fault, somehow.

Where are all the instances of police doing something about these kinds of reports? Do you have any? Does anyone here have any?

My experience is the same as those who are disappointed with the police attitude to their reports. Sometimes I try again, hoping for a different result, but it’s always the same. If the police didn’t see it, it didn’t happen.

Rather similar to your attitude actually. You didn’t see it, the person telling the story is making it up.

I see you have the comprehension skills of a pre-schooler.

Where did I blame the citizen?

Where are all the instances of police doing something about these kinds of reports? Do you have any? Does anyone here have any?

I read the other day that 40 odd cars have been seized in the last 6 months. Is that good enough for you? Probably not. You didn’t see it, so it didn’t happen. Alternatively, you can go to the Magistrate’s Court and have a look at the procession of offenders being dealt with for traffic matters/driving offences.

My experience is the same as those who are disappointed with the police attitude to their reports. Sometimes I try again, hoping for a different result, but it’s always the same. If the police didn’t see it, it didn’t happen.

Without specific examples, it’s difficult to judge this comment in any way. Me, not being a sook, would demand a satisfatory explanation as to why police didn’t act on my report. If I didn’t get one from the officer taking my report, then I’d take it to his/her team leader. If I still didn’t get a satisfactory answer, I’d take it to the OIC. If I still didn’t get a satisfactory answer it would go higher and higher until I did. But hey, that’s just me. I’m not one to sit back and ‘be disappointed’. I get off my arse and demand some action.

Rather similar to your attitude actually. You didn’t see it, the person telling the story is making it up.

Again, you’re talking out of your arse. Quote where I said the person telling the story is making it up. In fact, quote me on any topic I’ve ever posted on where I’ve accused the person telling the story of making it up.

KaptnKaos 1:13 pm 17 Mar 11

Lefty said :

I was driving down Ginninderra Dr one night at about 11pm, when a car full of young boys drove past quite fast, beer bottles in their hands – and yes, even the driver. I memorised their number plate, make and model of car as I had a feeling things were not looking good.

And I was right. Out of the window came a bottle from the driver, hitting the windscreen of the car behind them (and in front of me). The woman driving pulled over in shock not knowing what had happened. I rang the police when I got home and they took my details and the impression they gave me was “it has already happened, no one got injured…thanks for ringing…”

Don’t give up reporting things…..even if you think the police don’t care.

Until an incident has an injury or is a fatality (or a punchup in civic), police are too unresourced to do anything at all, I was told this by a stressed out young station plod when reporting such an incident. No blame on the rozzers – they do the best they can with what they are allocated – the blame lies with the gubbmint nongs.

Bane 1:01 pm 17 Mar 11

trevar said :

Well said, Evan. I’ve had the same response from police, and I’ve heard plenty of others getting such a response. It makes me wonder, if the police aren’t able to maintain order on our roads, should we not be looking for another means or another agency to take on this responsibility.

It’s not as if I think the police are useless. I’ve seen some very good policework from the AFP investigating crimes and supporting victims of crime and even in crime prevention, but they are completely useless when it comes to minor disturbances that put people at risk and don’t do anything of value until someone gets hurt. Surely if police can’t do this job, someone else should be able to!

Does the concept of “evidence” elude you? It’s not about whether or not someone gets hurt, it’s about what can be proven. Guilty people can and do get away with things because their guilt can’t be established beyond reasonable doubt. The police can’t just take an accuser at their word. And any other agency that would replace the police would have to follow the same rules; the “law” I believe it’s called. Surely this isn’t news to you?

creative_canberran 12:24 pm 17 Mar 11

There’s also the problem with penalties. The police do have limited resources so it doesn’t make much sense to tie up officers and a vehicle to deal with a report of a hoon, then go through the process of paperwork and probably court, which ties up officers for even more time, just to slap him with a couple of demerit points and a couple of hundred dollars in fines. Sure, they could get a criminal conviction and really stuff the hoon over but courts almost never do because of the risk to persons employment prospects.
The penalties have to be made tougher to make the effort required prosecuting these people worth it.
I calculated that in the ACT, you would have to get caught driving 30km/h over the speed limit 3 times before you run out of points. Drive on the wrong side of a highway 4 times, wrong side of a road 6 times, drive negligently 3 times and tailgate 12 times to lose enough points. Even doing 45km/h over the limit costs only 6 points. And the penalty is only three months suspension which many offenders ignore and get away with.

georgesgenitals 12:22 pm 17 Mar 11

I thought ‘fully sick drift’ was only available as a feature in Japanese cars over 10 years old, with cheap wheels, loud stereos and P plates. The owner must have found an aftermarket system – can’t have been easy with a car as rare and beautiful as a mid ’90s Commodore wagon…

jasere 11:46 am 17 Mar 11

Wow credit to the driver it’s not easy to flick it back when its hanging that far out.

Holden Caulfield 11:31 am 17 Mar 11

Ledanta said :

I nearly got hit by an idiot just like this while riding my bike (on the footpath of the opposite side of the road) with my 3 year old in the baby seat behind me. When I gave him the “wanker wave” he stopped the car and threatened to bash me. Dont these idiots realise the consequences of losing control and smashing into an innocent cyclist and his child?

Consequences? Rite of passage more like.

Lefty 11:25 am 17 Mar 11

I was driving down Ginninderra Dr one night at about 11pm, when a car full of young boys drove past quite fast, beer bottles in their hands – and yes, even the driver. I memorised their number plate, make and model of car as I had a feeling things were not looking good.

And I was right. Out of the window came a bottle from the driver, hitting the windscreen of the car behind them (and in front of me). The woman driving pulled over in shock not knowing what had happened. I rang the police when I got home and they took my details and the impression they gave me was “it has already happened, no one got injured…thanks for ringing…”

Don’t give up reporting things…..even if you think the police don’t care.

KB1971 10:52 am 17 Mar 11

p1 said :

KB1971 said :

Noice set of blackies……….

You making this a racist thing? 🙂

Hahahahahaha.

Ledanta 10:40 am 17 Mar 11

I nearly got hit by an idiot just like this while riding my bike (on the footpath of the opposite side of the road) with my 3 year old in the baby seat behind me. When I gave him the “wanker wave” he stopped the car and threatened to bash me. Dont these idiots realise the consequences of losing control and smashing into an innocent cyclist and his child?

trevar 10:32 am 17 Mar 11

Well said, Evan. I’ve had the same response from police, and I’ve heard plenty of others getting such a response. It makes me wonder, if the police aren’t able to maintain order on our roads, should we not be looking for another means or another agency to take on this responsibility.

It’s not as if I think the police are useless. I’ve seen some very good policework from the AFP investigating crimes and supporting victims of crime and even in crime prevention, but they are completely useless when it comes to minor disturbances that put people at risk and don’t do anything of value until someone gets hurt. Surely if police can’t do this job, someone else should be able to!

EvanJames 9:48 am 17 Mar 11

Tooks said :

So you could’ve made a statement and gone to court, but you decided not to. Your decision.

So many people recounting instances of police indifference when these things are reported, and you persist in saying that it’s the citizen’s fault, somehow. Where are all the instances of police doing something about these kinds of reports? Do you have any? Does anyone here have any?

My experience is the same as those who are disappointed with the police attitude to their reports. Sometimes I try again, hoping for a different result, but it’s always the same. If the police didn’t see it, it didn’t happen.

Rather similar to your attitude actually. You didn’t see it, the person telling the story is making it up.

p1 9:39 am 17 Mar 11

KB1971 said :

Noice set of blackies……….

You making this a racist thing? 🙂

KB1971 9:04 am 17 Mar 11

Noice set of blackies……….

Jamie Wheeler 8:26 am 17 Mar 11

Br1anL said :

Ozi said :

Make a statement to Police, Traffic Ops blokes will happily seize his car and take him to court on burnout if you make a statement and provide the photo.

I wasn’t going to do anything because I didn’t think they would bother, but I now think I will walk over to the station tomorrow and report it.

It’s probably not worth the effort. A couple of years ago I called the police on a young hoon P plater doing very dangerous burnouts in a narrow suburban street near pedestrians. I got the rego and car make/model then phoned police. By the time I’d phoned the car had only just left the scene and the police said there’s nothing they can do. I suspect reporting it will be a waste of your time.

Tooks 8:24 am 17 Mar 11

smont said :

Several years ago I reported an act of extreme dangerous driving (a car overtaking three cars on a country road around a blind corner – yes, you had to see it to believe it) in person to the police, and was given the response “oh well you know there’s not much we can really do about it, unless you’de be prepared to go to court and testify, and then it’s your word against his” etc etc. So I’ve never bothered since.

So you could’ve made a statement and gone to court, but you decided not to. Your decision.

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