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New home for old cars in Canberra?

By lindt 3 July 2013 40

Disclaimer. I don’t know much about cars.

I have an old car that I no longer need. It runs fine, although the clutch is starting to go. I could get a token amount from a wrecker/on trade-in. I’m rather foolishly sentimentally attached to the car, and don’t like the idea of it being worth only scrap when it runs fine.

Is there a good way of finding an old car a new home? Would a charity or student or someone in need want it? I’d rather give it away and see it do some good rather than have it be wrecked.

What’s Your opinion?


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tim_c 10:50 am 09 Jul 13

Solidarity said :

Old? Excels aren’t old. I was expecting like an HK or something. Disappointing.

They’re not really cars either 😉

Solidarity 10:17 am 09 Jul 13

Old? Excels aren’t old. I was expecting like an HK or something. Disappointing.

lindt 10:14 am 09 Jul 13

It was just an old Excel. I took the point made by a couple of the early posters (that it was more trouble than it was worth for the recipient of the car) and consigned it to its fate as a trade in 🙁 It was a faithful car that served us well!

Thailand71 6:08 am 09 Jul 13

You could contact MARSS http://marss.org.au/ and see if they know of any refugees newly arrived in Australia that could benefit from a vehicle.

wildturkeycanoe 9:44 pm 05 Jul 13

C’mon Lindt, I am dying to know what make of car it is. Not for reason of accepting it, but just to daydream what could have been if I’d the room, garage, time and money to tinker with old reliable cars.

rhino 4:01 pm 05 Jul 13

The Antichrist said :

harvyk1 said :

Whilst you may feel that it is honorable to be giving a car away, a car which is potentially about to have an expensive part to replace go on it is hardly going to be a charitable act, unless you hand the car over and provide a warranty (which kinda misses the point of getting rid of it).

Besides, it doesn’t run fine, a car which is about of have a part break can hardly be called running fine despite the fact that for now it gets you from A to B.

Did you even read the post ? Its a clutch, not a new motor. As pointed out, this is neither an expensive part nor is is hard to replace. You make it sound like the motor is about to blow into a thousand pieces.

The OP stated that the car runs fine, although the clutch is starting to go – to my way of thinking that is being perfectly honest. What do you want for nothing ?? A complete and running motor vehicle without a single fault that will run happily for the next 10 years without any problems ?? Gen Y much ? Its a free car FFS, be happy and fix whats wrong for very little outlay, who knows you might even get another good 10 years out of it…..

some people would whinge if they were given a free home and the neighbours were not up to their high standards. Thats how we roll down here in Canberra…..

Agreed exactly.

Even if you argue with semantics that it’s actually a $150 car and not “free”. Is that a problem? If the alternative is buying on that is probably equally as reliable or requiring similar maintenance costs for $2000 on carsales. The cost of this repair is negligible when compared to the fact that many people buy a brand new car and then get ripped off for maintenance every 3 months for $300 and think that that is good value because they have new car warranty.

Buying an old car and getting a few larger components fixed from time to time at a cost lower than a standard service on a new car for other people is hardly a bad deal.

Going OT a bit…i think new cars are a rip off really. People think the new car warranty is worth tens of thousands but it’s not really unless you buy a lemon car in the first place. Especially when you’re forced to spend a fortune on services just to maintain it. More than you’d pay in maintenance without the new car warranty anyway lol.

Sandman 8:15 pm 04 Jul 13

My 2 favourite words, “old cars”.

I collect them and store them in sheds at the farm until someone calls me looking for a car to do up. I’ve got a couple of mates who’ve gotten 3 or 4 off me. What it is will determine whether anyone wants it for anything more than collecting the scrap value themselves. Has it got rego on it or is it a tow away job?

The Antichrist 6:54 pm 04 Jul 13

harvyk1 said :

Whilst you may feel that it is honorable to be giving a car away, a car which is potentially about to have an expensive part to replace go on it is hardly going to be a charitable act, unless you hand the car over and provide a warranty (which kinda misses the point of getting rid of it).

Besides, it doesn’t run fine, a car which is about of have a part break can hardly be called running fine despite the fact that for now it gets you from A to B.

Did you even read the post ? Its a clutch, not a new motor. As pointed out, this is neither an expensive part nor is is hard to replace. You make it sound like the motor is about to blow into a thousand pieces.

The OP stated that the car runs fine, although the clutch is starting to go – to my way of thinking that is being perfectly honest. What do you want for nothing ?? A complete and running motor vehicle without a single fault that will run happily for the next 10 years without any problems ?? Gen Y much ? Its a free car FFS, be happy and fix whats wrong for very little outlay, who knows you might even get another good 10 years out of it…..

some people would whinge if they were given a free home and the neighbours were not up to their high standards. Thats how we roll down here in Canberra…..

PantsMan 4:03 pm 04 Jul 13

devils_advocate said :

Skidd Marx said :

What kind of car is it?

^This. If it’s not too old I can probably give it a loving home.

Yeh, details please!

I mean, I’d happly take a 64 Mercedes Pagoda off your hands for a slab.

Osprey06 3:56 pm 04 Jul 13

At the risk of getting back on topic, the OP could try rining around some local public colleges. Sometimes the auto tech areas will accept generally roadworthy cars in need of minor mechanical repairs to use in their teachings – a car requiring a clutch replacement and possibly a bit of general TLC would be perfect.

devils_advocate 1:56 pm 04 Jul 13

dtc said :

Rangi said :

So from this you are saying everybody should be proficient at everything and should have the time and tools to do it.

Therefore, I assume then to avoid being a “numpty” that pays other people to do things for them, you only ever eat food, that you have prepared from base ingredients that you grew yourself, you built your own house and computer from scratch from materials you mined, grew etc yourself. You perform your own surgery, sew your own clothes and so on.

Oh and that you did not buy or obtain your car readymade, but built it from scratch from parts you made yourself, using tools you made yourself.

Come on, dont be silly. Dont you know that the ability to perform mechanics and talk about cars is one of the last things that ‘MEN’ ™ can pontificate about in the knowledge that it sounds strong and macho and down to earth but which many people can no longer do – and hence it proves their manliness and superiority. Kinda like how only ‘good drivers’ drive manuals and everyone who drives an automatic sucks and shouldnt be on the road.

So get with the times. Car knowledge = man. No car knowledge = not a man.

Everyone is a critic until the car breaks down at night in the middle of nowhere.

I already knew that most of the people in this town lacked basic life skills (and no, writing a ministerial brief is not a basic life skill). I didn’t know that having said skills invited active derision.

Live and learn!

devils_advocate 1:49 pm 04 Jul 13

Rangi said :

So from this you are saying everybody should be proficient at everything and should have the time and tools to do it.

Therefore, I assume then to avoid being a “numpty” that pays other people to do things for them, you only ever eat food, that you have prepared from base ingredients that you grew yourself, you built your own house and computer from scratch from materials you mined, grew etc yourself. You perform your own surgery, sew your own clothes and so on.

Oh and that you did not buy or obtain your car readymade, but built it from scratch from parts you made yourself, using tools you made yourself.

Read my comments in context.

I do everything myself until, and only until, the marginal cost of spending an extra hour of my time exceeds the marginal cost of paying someone else to do it.

With cars it’s a bit more complicated since, due to the standard of mechanic-ing in the ACT, if you want something done right you have to do it yourself. So you have to adjust any hourly quote by a mechanic to take account of the contingency that it might fall apart while you’re driving it.

Overall, I calculated that based on hourly workshop rates, an individual needs to be earning around $120, 000 per year in order for it to be sensible to pay a mechanic to do basic servicing on a basic car. And people that earn $120,000 should not be bemoaning the fact of having to pay for a clutch for a free car – if indeed they should be considering a free car as a serious prospect at all.

This is why I qualified my comment by reference to the kind of people that pay a mechanic to do basic tasks. Either a) that’s not a lot of money to you, (marginal cost in time > marginal cost in servicing dollars saved) in which case you have no business bothering with offers of free cars from strangers or b) that is a lot of money for you, and you would therefore choose the cheaper option of doing it yourself, and doing it properly.

Either of those is fine. Option c) is lecturing someone who is offering a free car about supposedly expensive servicing costs, on the basis that you would take a free car and then pay a mechanic a fortune to perform basic service tasks. It is that option which renders an individual a numpty.

Hope that clears it up for you.

harvyk1 12:01 pm 04 Jul 13

Rangi said :

So from this you are saying everybody should be proficient at everything and should have the time and tools to do it.

Therefore, I assume then to avoid being a “numpty” that pays other people to do things for them, you only ever eat food, that you have prepared from base ingredients that you grew yourself, you built your own house and computer from scratch from materials you mined, grew etc yourself. You perform your own surgery, sew your own clothes and so on.

Oh and that you did not buy or obtain your car readymade, but built it from scratch from parts you made yourself, using tools you made yourself.

There needs to be a like button installed here, I couldn’t agree more…

Now before I have my “Man Card” taken from me, I do service my own cars, I am not afraid of what’s under the bonnet, and I have replaced a clutch cable in a 91 subi (with a lot of swearing and needing to break my arm in multiple places to get it in), but I’ve come from a mechanically minded family. I also know there is a lot of people out there (eg Mrs Harvyk) who know where an engine is on a car and no more.

dungfungus 10:36 am 04 Jul 13

Skidd Marx said :

What kind of car is it?

Is it a white Commodore?

dtc 10:31 am 04 Jul 13

Rangi said :

So from this you are saying everybody should be proficient at everything and should have the time and tools to do it.

Therefore, I assume then to avoid being a “numpty” that pays other people to do things for them, you only ever eat food, that you have prepared from base ingredients that you grew yourself, you built your own house and computer from scratch from materials you mined, grew etc yourself. You perform your own surgery, sew your own clothes and so on.

Oh and that you did not buy or obtain your car readymade, but built it from scratch from parts you made yourself, using tools you made yourself.

Come on, dont be silly. Dont you know that the ability to perform mechanics and talk about cars is one of the last things that ‘MEN’ ™ can pontificate about in the knowledge that it sounds strong and macho and down to earth but which many people can no longer do – and hence it proves their manliness and superiority. Kinda like how only ‘good drivers’ drive manuals and everyone who drives an automatic sucks and shouldnt be on the road.

So get with the times. Car knowledge = man. No car knowledge = not a man.

Rangi 10:06 am 04 Jul 13

devils_advocate said :

harvyk1 said :

what_the said :

Jesus what do you expect from a free car? A warranty?

But if the first thing I have to do with the “free” car is replace an expensive component, is the car still free? (

A “normal” clutch for a “normal” car only costs between $80 and $120. Maybe up to $150 in some cases, but rare. That is a clutch kit, including a new throwout bearing and spigot bush.

The only type of people who would consider clutch replacement expensive is the kind of numpty who pays a mechanic to do these kinds of tasks. Honestly, if you’re one of *these type of people* then what business do you have commenting on a thread of this nature. You should be out organising for a mechanic to charge you $200 for an oil change or something equally intelligent.

So from this you are saying everybody should be proficient at everything and should have the time and tools to do it.

Therefore, I assume then to avoid being a “numpty” that pays other people to do things for them, you only ever eat food, that you have prepared from base ingredients that you grew yourself, you built your own house and computer from scratch from materials you mined, grew etc yourself. You perform your own surgery, sew your own clothes and so on.

Oh and that you did not buy or obtain your car readymade, but built it from scratch from parts you made yourself, using tools you made yourself.

Rangi 9:50 am 04 Jul 13

Terra said :

devils_advocate said :

harvyk1 said :

what_the said :

Jesus what do you expect from a free car? A warranty?

But if the first thing I have to do with the “free” car is replace an expensive component, is the car still free? (

A “normal” clutch for a “normal” car only costs between $80 and $120. Maybe up to $150 in some cases, but rare. That is a clutch kit, including a new throwout bearing and spigot bush.

The only type of people who would consider clutch replacement expensive is the kind of numpty who pays a mechanic to do these kinds of tasks. Honestly, if you’re one of *these type of people* then what business do you have commenting on a thread of this nature. You should be out organising for a mechanic to charge you $200 for an oil change or something equally intelligent.

Exactly. Most clutches on older cars are a doddle if you have a decent jack, stands and a handful of metric tools. Every young man (or woman) should have changed 1 or 2 with his day by the time their 21.

Oh, what do you mean no one has ever shown you how? Really, is that what the world has come to?

Every young man or woman should of know the difference between their and they’re by the time they are 21

“Oh, what do you mean no one has ever shown you how? Really, is that what the world has come to?”

goggles13 9:32 am 04 Jul 13

while I’m reading this thread, I have a 1995 Holden Commodore wagon I would like to get rid of.

it is unregistered and has damage on the left front, but does run.

have contacted a number of wreckers about the vehicle, and none of them have replied.

bundah 9:15 am 04 Jul 13

The OP is MIA and we still don’t know what the make,model or year of the old car..

MightyJoe 9:14 am 04 Jul 13

Depending on the car, i may be interested!

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