No more white Commodores

johnboy 11 December 2013 43

The Deputy Prime Minister has just informed the House that Holden will be closing Australian operations by 2017.

For the many, many Canberrans who have enjoyed the antics of white Commodore drivers over the years it is a black day.

What will take its place?


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Thumper Thumper 8:04 am 13 Dec 13

Holden Caulfield said :

poetix said :

So what will be racing at Bathurst in ten years?

‘Won’t someone think of the mountain?’

V8SC is a farce. GT3 cars are where it’s at: http://bathurst12hour.com.au/

Holden Caulfields and Ford Prefects?

Holden Caulfield Holden Caulfield 12:01 am 13 Dec 13

poetix said :

So what will be racing at Bathurst in ten years?

‘Won’t someone think of the mountain?’

V8SC is a farce. GT3 cars are where it’s at: http://bathurst12hour.com.au/

poetix poetix 10:38 pm 12 Dec 13

So what will be racing at Bathurst in ten years?

‘Won’t someone think of the mountain?’

Antagonist Antagonist 10:02 pm 12 Dec 13

minkshaman said :

You’ve never actually been on newstart have you? It’s not called “no-start” for nothing.

$501 a fortnight is next to worthless, good luck reskilling with that.
Rather than cutting the entirely inadequate dole payment, how about stopping the massive rort of the new start job agencies.
Or better yet, cut them entirely and give some sort of learning credits or something. Or provide a way for them to get free training in something that will get work.

On the current newstart payment, you barely afford food and rent, let alone CIT payments.

Bulldust! My Carer Payment is very close to that amount. And on top of my full-time carer responsibilities, I still manage to pay rent, buy food, clothe myself, run and register a car, support my children AND balance a full-time university study load. And guess what? The sky is not falling. Fancy that!

As Joe Hockey keeps asking: Where was the outrage when Mitsubishi and Ford pulled the plug ??? The gravy train is over for Holden. Go cry me a river, Blubberboy.

Spiral Spiral 8:12 pm 12 Dec 13

Most dipstick white crapadore drivers have second hand ones so they will probably continue to dominate for years until most have been destroyed during police chases.

When it comes to moron aggressive drivers the Subaru WRX seems to be increasingly popular especially as there are heaps of second hand ones now.

The Subaru Forester has taken over from the Volvo as the car of choice for people who can’t find the accelerator and like to travel way below the speed limit while remaining oblivious to the traffic chaos they cause.

The small VWs also seem to be carving out a niche as the car of choice for bad drivers, apparently preferred by those who don’t want the hoon tag of the wrx but still have failed to master even the basics of driving skills.

minkshaman minkshaman 7:32 pm 12 Dec 13

CraigT said :

It’s perfectly simple: instead of giving out handouts to Holden which are then used to subsidise dividend payouts for foreign “investors”, it’s the *government* that needs to be doing the investment.

We don’t need to call it “nationalisation”, because that probably won’t play very well to the right-wing looney-tunes that control every aspect of our mass media.
We can call it “research” and “job-creation schemes”.
We simply use government money to build a 21st-century car manufacturing plant. We then lease it to Holden for a nominal fee.

The building of said carplant will protect (or, more accurately, develop) Australian skills in high-tech, and the fact it was paid for by govenrment will ensure Holden’s margins allow them to continue selling Australian-built cars.

And if they ever cry poor again, instead of handouts, we offer to buy them out and run it as a government business.

In the meantime, the dole needs to be severely trimmed from its ridiculously generous current levels, and similarly the massively-rorted disability benefits needs a complete overhaul, presumably thus shedding 80% of its rorting bludger fake-disabled in the process as happened in the UK.
This should depress wages, making us more competitive.

If we’re feeling sensible, we will then also legislate to tie executive and Director pay levels to worker pay levels. The “if we can’t get decent pay, we’ll just go overseas” crowd can be invited to $#@% off and mis-manage some foreign corporations while cheap executives and directors come onboard to make these local companies even more competitive.

If I ran this country, I’d have it sorted in about 5 years. We’d get good autobahns, but we’d probably have to do away with the media and certainly have to ban all morons from voting. Have a Latin-speaking test to qualify for voting should see us right.

You’ve never actually been on newstart have you? It’s not called “no-start” for nothing.

$501 a fortnight is next to worthless, good luck reskilling with that.
Rather than cutting the entirely inadequate dole payment, how about stopping the massive rort of the new start job agencies.
Or better yet, cut them entirely and give some sort of learning credits or something. Or provide a way for them to get free training in something that will get work.

On the current newstart payment, you barely afford food and rent, let alone CIT payments.

Reprobate Reprobate 3:12 pm 12 Dec 13

Thumper said :

You can’t kill a VN Commodore with a stick.

Agreed, though a stick is a bad tool to try and kill any car. Most VN drivers, however, are perfect car-killing tools.

Nail Nail 1:52 pm 12 Dec 13

Queen_of_the_Bun said :

Antagonist said :

“What will take its place?”

Hilux driving soccer mums?

I think the black Audi has already replaced the white Commodore as the major menace on the roads.

That’s funny, I don’t remember reading any police reports where the alleged offender was driving a black Audi. Seeing as this is where the white commodore joke was born I would have thought black Audi’s might have started to cop a mention if they have, as you say, replaced the white commodore as the major menace on our roads.

HiddenDragon HiddenDragon 12:07 pm 12 Dec 13

johnboy said :

Well, in all seriousness.

The country has sleep walked into a knife fight on currency depreciation. Germany is torturing southern europe to depress the euro and the brit, japanese and americans are printing money to devalue their currencies.

A high dollar in a high wage economy is death to manufactured exports but it appears we prefer cheap holidays in Bali and why wouldn’t we?

The strategic reasons to have a car industry are largely gone.

Unless we also prop up (and perhaps we should) the robotics and silicon industries, to make the whole tool chain, just bashing cars together with rubber mallets and bolting the colour coded components together does not a self-sufficient nation make.

Sleep-walking into the currency knife-fight is just the latest instance of economic naivete on the part of our leaders and their advisors – the proceeds from the mining boom have kept a gloss on it, but that gloss is wearing increasingly thin and it’s difficult to see anything other than tougher times, with constrained living standards for most.

MERC600 MERC600 10:10 am 12 Dec 13

Queen_of_the_Bun said :

Antagonist said :

“What will take its place?”

Hilux driving soccer mums?

I think the black Audi has already replaced the white Commodore as the major menace on the roads.

I reckon your right about Audi. Was looking for a replacement car and Audi was suggested.
Then noticed how many on the road. Bigmobs of them. Anyway got another Ford ..

Deref Deref 8:26 am 12 Dec 13

CraigT said :

It’s perfectly simple: instead of giving out handouts to Holden which are then used to subsidise dividend payouts for foreign “investors”, it’s the *government* that needs to be doing the investment.

We don’t need to call it “nationalisation”, because that probably won’t play very well to the right-wing looney-tunes that control every aspect of our mass media.

+1. And fuggem – nationalise it and call a spade a spade.

Now we wait for the “government-owned car makers/airlines could never be successful” posts.

Queen_of_the_Bun Queen_of_the_Bun 6:56 am 12 Dec 13

Antagonist said :

“What will take its place?”

Hilux driving soccer mums?

I think the black Audi has already replaced the white Commodore as the major menace on the roads.

Holden Caulfield Holden Caulfield 11:06 pm 11 Dec 13

Sandman said :

Spot on. It’s not just the Utes that would sell over in the US either. The Caprice would be a big seller (currently offered to law enforcement only in the US) and the brief run of Pontiac badged commodores and Monaro’s are well loved by those that have them…

No Australian car sent to the US has ever been a big seller. Whether that’s due to the product itself or GM’s marketing I’m not sure, but the sales figures for Pontiac badged Monaros weren’t anything to write home about.

Sandman Sandman 10:06 pm 11 Dec 13

gazket said :

who the hell wants a front wheel drive Impala. Not Australian’s.

Holden could of exported 100,000 VE utes to the U.S. The Yanks were screaming for them. Did they do it, no. Australians designed the new Camaro, did they release it here, no.

The governments also have a part to play as well. Free trade agreements are working well for us aren’t they. Politicians are the only people in Australia that don’t have to stand on their own two feet and feel it’s fine to watch the country’s manufacturing disappear.

After the Commodore goes GM are left with very mediocre cars . Lets take the latest new Malibu , crap name, crap car. Camry size car that chews more petrol than a Commodore. Craptiva and Cruize had more recalls than any other car , The 2002 Cruze they must of sold about 20 of those. Zafaria – just plain shite people mover. Colorado – how ugly can the front of a truck get, not much uglier than this. Barina – I hope this car lasts as long as the fridge . Lemon city

Good luck to the new boss of Holden.

Spot on. It’s not just the Utes that would sell over in the US either. The Caprice would be a big seller (currently offered to law enforcement only in the US) and the brief run of Pontiac badged commodores and Monaro’s are well loved by those that have them.
Aussie built cars are superior in every way to the Yankee ones, except for production cost. Unfortunately we let everyone else push us around and take their crappy hunks of metal, keeping our production volume down and costs high.

staminaman62 staminaman62 9:52 pm 11 Dec 13
Antagonist Antagonist 9:47 pm 11 Dec 13

“What will take its place?”

Hilux driving soccer mums?

JessP JessP 9:00 pm 11 Dec 13

Kinda sad, coming from Elizabeth and all but then again I have owned a Holden for 20 years….so I am a part of the problem I guess. Aussies don’t want Holdens.

farq farq 8:59 pm 11 Dec 13

Well if we can’t get big locally made cars in the future, they better drop the import taxes on expensive models so people of average means have more options than small/medium sized hatchbacks.

CraigT CraigT 8:37 pm 11 Dec 13

It’s perfectly simple: instead of giving out handouts to Holden which are then used to subsidise dividend payouts for foreign “investors”, it’s the *government* that needs to be doing the investment.

We don’t need to call it “nationalisation”, because that probably won’t play very well to the right-wing looney-tunes that control every aspect of our mass media.
We can call it “research” and “job-creation schemes”.
We simply use government money to build a 21st-century car manufacturing plant. We then lease it to Holden for a nominal fee.

The building of said carplant will protect (or, more accurately, develop) Australian skills in high-tech, and the fact it was paid for by govenrment will ensure Holden’s margins allow them to continue selling Australian-built cars.

And if they ever cry poor again, instead of handouts, we offer to buy them out and run it as a government business.

In the meantime, the dole needs to be severely trimmed from its ridiculously generous current levels, and similarly the massively-rorted disability benefits needs a complete overhaul, presumably thus shedding 80% of its rorting bludger fake-disabled in the process as happened in the UK.
This should depress wages, making us more competitive.

If we’re feeling sensible, we will then also legislate to tie executive and Director pay levels to worker pay levels. The “if we can’t get decent pay, we’ll just go overseas” crowd can be invited to $#@% off and mis-manage some foreign corporations while cheap executives and directors come onboard to make these local companies even more competitive.

If I ran this country, I’d have it sorted in about 5 years. We’d get good autobahns, but we’d probably have to do away with the media and certainly have to ban all morons from voting. Have a Latin-speaking test to qualify for voting should see us right.

milkman milkman 8:33 pm 11 Dec 13

Deref said :

Grrrr said :

Maybe they’ll rebadge whatever they come up with for the 2017 Chevy Impala.

I had the misfortune to drive a Chevy Impala for a significant distance in the US a few years ago. It was unspeakably awful. American cars are called “boats” not because of the way they look (though they are, in general, unspeakably ugly), but because of the way they handle.

I’m not sure that the Impala had shock absorbers but, if it did, they didn’t work. (Let me stress that this was a brand new rental car). The springs were as soft as the proverbial Catholic choir boy’s bottom, and its cornering ability was, as you’d expect, non-existent.

I’m no fan of Holdens, but the gods preserve us from Impalas.

I too have had the misfortune of driving a recent model Impala. Just terrible. If you haven’t driven a real and recent American car you can’t imagine how bad it is.

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